A silent majority may as well not exist, if it has no tangible effects.
Dreaded Anomaly Send a noteboard - 05/02/2012 12:54:34 AM
You haven't offered any real evidence in rebuttal. In response to actual observations about the behavior of the "pro-life" movement, all you have is speculation about how things might be different, with nothing to back it up. One does not have to make any special effort to see how the "pro-life" movement behaves; just read the news and see how they act. Apparently, though, a special effort is required to understand what that behavior implies about the character of the movement.
The question is not what some hypothetical "pro-life" person whom you've constructed in your head does or doesn't do. There is an organized movement for this cause, and it does not act in the ways it should act if its stated goals were its actual goals.
There is no coherent definition of personhood which includes zygotes, or even most pre-third trimester fetuses. Persons are intelligent, self-aware beings; this requires higher brain function.
The question is not what some hypothetical "pro-life" person whom you've constructed in your head does or doesn't do. There is an organized movement for this cause, and it does not act in the ways it should act if its stated goals were its actual goals.
There is no coherent definition of personhood which includes zygotes, or even most pre-third trimester fetuses. Persons are intelligent, self-aware beings; this requires higher brain function.
Susan G. Komen cuts funds to Planned Parenthood. (with updated edit)
- 02/02/2012 04:32:27 PM
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The most annoying part is in the sixth paragraph- abortions are only a small part of their thing
- 02/02/2012 05:08:07 PM
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I agree.
- 02/02/2012 05:20:17 PM
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Actually, there are longer-acting forms of birth control than the pill.
- 03/02/2012 12:37:42 AM
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I do think that preventing abortions is their primary goal.
- 03/02/2012 01:08:05 AM
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If they don't see that link, it's because they haven't looked.
- 03/02/2012 02:42:42 AM
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That is a little unfair.
- 03/02/2012 12:48:46 PM
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Won't someone please think of the children?!
- 04/02/2012 05:03:27 AM
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I think you're leaving out some important points.
- 04/02/2012 03:40:48 PM
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Ah, the good ol' silent majority.
- 04/02/2012 07:32:29 PM
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So which moron is feeding you this crap?
- 04/02/2012 10:27:15 PM
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It worries me when we think alike....
- 05/02/2012 01:22:35 PM
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- 05/02/2012 01:22:35 PM
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Brain waves at 8 weeks are a myth.
- 05/02/2012 08:46:06 PM
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"brain function... appears to be reliably present in the fetus at about eight weeks' gestation."
- 05/02/2012 10:42:35 PM
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Oh please.
- 05/02/2012 11:13:50 PM
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Re: Oh please yourself.
- 06/02/2012 09:15:26 PM
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Quite a telling reply.
- 07/02/2012 04:38:20 AM
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Re: I quite agree.
- 08/02/2012 06:03:23 PM
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You're taking an issue of objective facts and treating it like a day of playground gossip.
- 09/02/2012 03:47:06 AM
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No, your source, in which there is very little that is objective, did that for me.
- 11/02/2012 02:59:45 AM
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I see you have continued to provide no factual arguments.
- 14/02/2012 04:53:28 AM
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I presented factual rebuttals.
- 19/02/2012 01:56:45 AM
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You continue to miss the point.
- 23/02/2012 10:22:24 PM
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No, I got the point: You expect me to accept a heavily biased, partisan and combative "source."
- 07/03/2012 01:47:37 AM
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The claim of brain waves at 8 weeks is still unsupported by evidence, i.e. a myth.
- 15/03/2012 09:16:14 PM
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Well, yes.
- 04/02/2012 11:14:47 PM
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A silent majority may as well not exist, if it has no tangible effects.
- 05/02/2012 12:54:34 AM
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You ignoring it is not the same thing as it having no tangible effect.
- 05/02/2012 02:11:36 AM
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Since few people oppose ADULT contraception access, that might be wise in this case.
- 04/02/2012 08:25:49 PM
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Re: Since few people oppose ADULT contraception access, that might be wise in this case.
- 05/02/2012 02:11:28 AM
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If you are arguing most sex ed opponents are naïve/ignorant, I agree.
- 05/02/2012 08:42:17 AM
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Re: If you are arguing most sex ed opponents are naïve/ignorant, I agree.
- 05/02/2012 10:04:59 PM
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Re: If you are arguing most sex ed opponents are naïve/ignorant, I agree.
- 06/02/2012 08:57:38 PM
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I'm done discussing my use of the term "oppression." The Tim Ryan stuff is interesting, though.
- 07/02/2012 05:37:05 AM
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Yet, regrettably, not done misusing it.
- 08/02/2012 06:01:32 PM
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Re: Yet, regrettably, not done misusing it.
- 09/02/2012 05:30:58 AM
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Re: Yet, regrettably, not done misusing it.
- 11/02/2012 02:58:00 AM
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Re: Yet, regrettably, not done misusing it.
- 14/02/2012 04:29:08 AM
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Re: Yet, regrettably, not done misusing it.
- 19/02/2012 01:54:30 AM
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Re: Yet, regrettably, not done misusing it.
- 23/02/2012 10:59:32 PM
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There are problems with the implants
- 03/02/2012 01:42:55 AM
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Any form of birth control doesn't work for everyone, though.
- 03/02/2012 02:37:00 AM
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Oh yes, I totally agree! My point is just that there are some barriers to handing out implants
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- 03/02/2012 03:38:05 AM
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- 03/02/2012 03:38:05 AM
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What on earth does that have to do with anything?
- 03/02/2012 01:47:42 AM
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I was actually kinda with you until you closed with that anathema I condemned in my response to rt.
- 03/02/2012 01:39:06 PM
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I agree that they have made Beast Cancer a cult but splitting with PP is just smart
- 02/02/2012 05:39:49 PM
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I agree.
- 02/02/2012 06:00:17 PM
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yes she is going to have to piss off one group or the other
- 02/02/2012 06:12:31 PM
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Right
- 02/02/2012 06:24:14 PM
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it is a judgment call and I hope her decision is based on more than my guesses
- 02/02/2012 06:53:50 PM
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Do you see a way Komen could have avoided pissing off one side?
- 02/02/2012 06:55:36 PM
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No, I don't. I don't believe I said that?
- 02/02/2012 07:53:50 PM
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You didn't; I inferred it from the way you phrased that ("if she HAS to..."). Sorry.
- 02/02/2012 08:06:11 PM
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I know I'm not always clear.
- 02/02/2012 08:32:47 PM
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- 02/02/2012 08:32:47 PM
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Just curious...
- 02/02/2012 10:07:49 PM
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Not at all.
- 02/02/2012 10:24:19 PM
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Not at all?
- 02/02/2012 10:32:31 PM
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No.
- 02/02/2012 10:47:04 PM
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My argument is based on my belief that the pro-choice women are more dedicated to women's causes
- 02/02/2012 11:17:24 PM
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Re: My argument is based on my belief that the pro-choice women are more dedicated to women's causes
- 03/02/2012 12:08:01 AM
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wow that may be the worst advice I had in weeks
- 03/02/2012 12:13:18 AM
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- 03/02/2012 12:13:18 AM
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Ooor, the best.
- 03/02/2012 12:25:56 AM
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ok now you are just being mean *NM*
- 03/02/2012 12:46:12 AM
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The thread was going too well - I thought we needed the meanness. *NM*
- 03/02/2012 11:30:39 AM
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Never having heard of any of those except PP, my opinion may not be the most relevant...
- 02/02/2012 08:32:48 PM
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You don't know stuff.
- 02/02/2012 08:43:38 PM
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I know the stuff that matters.
- 02/02/2012 09:55:08 PM
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- 02/02/2012 09:55:08 PM
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they may also be a afraid that PP will go the way of ACORN
- 02/02/2012 11:04:16 PM
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"Accused" of = unfounded slander.
- 03/02/2012 12:13:30 AM
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did you notice I called tactic disgusting? That doesn't mean it isn't effective
- 03/02/2012 12:45:10 AM
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The investigation by Congress is well-known to be specious. It's the House GOP abusing their power. *NM*
- 03/02/2012 12:41:58 AM
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This is so foreign a debate for me
- 02/02/2012 10:16:15 PM
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Re: stuff
- 03/02/2012 09:18:53 AM
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I'm sorry, but what're we talking about when we're talking about "cancer"
- 03/02/2012 12:49:34 PM
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Obviously not adenocarcinoma, no.
- 04/02/2012 07:36:06 AM
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I"m not that fussed. I'm just generally leary of research that has results like that
- 04/02/2012 08:35:04 PM
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Once I looked up Nancy Brinker at Wikipedia it all made sense.
- 02/02/2012 10:54:34 PM
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Re: Once I looked up Nancy Brinker at Wikipedia it all made sense.
- 02/02/2012 11:03:32 PM
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After a little more digging I have to say you are probably right.
- 03/02/2012 02:23:14 AM
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They restored funding incidentally
- 03/02/2012 05:43:47 PM
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Unless I've missed it
- 03/02/2012 05:56:15 PM
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You must have missed it then
- 03/02/2012 07:07:13 PM
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If you're referring to Cannoli
- 03/02/2012 07:19:25 PM
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Multiple was not an accidental choice of words
- 03/02/2012 11:46:30 PM
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Then I agree that maybe this is not the thread for you.
- 04/02/2012 12:41:42 AM
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Re: Then I agree that maybe this is not the thread for you.
- 04/02/2012 01:53:25 AM
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well at least there will not be any doubt about this being a political decision
- 03/02/2012 06:24:14 PM
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Re: well at least there will not be any doubt about this being a political decision
- 03/02/2012 06:29:34 PM
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I do wonder a bit which lawmakers Fox thinks "pressured" Komen.
- 03/02/2012 08:29:50 PM
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Beyond the 26 senators, I'd imagine rumor of the more reliable sort
- 03/02/2012 08:46:31 PM
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Well, if they wrote AS senators rather than friends of Nancy Brinker, that probably qualifies.
- 03/02/2012 10:24:11 PM
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Judge for yourself
- 04/02/2012 12:01:06 AM
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Well, a public letter makes whether they signed it "Sen. so-and-so" irrelevant: It is political.
- 04/02/2012 04:07:20 PM
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are you trying to disprove the study you posted?
- 03/02/2012 09:20:12 PM
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To me, it depends on the nature of the contact, which I have not dug enough to discover.
- 03/02/2012 10:43:45 PM
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you admit you have no incite into what happened
- 04/02/2012 04:27:17 AM
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Actually, it looks like Komens new VP (and former GOP GA gubernatorial candidate) had the incite.
- 04/02/2012 04:24:14 PM
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- 04/02/2012 04:24:14 PM
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educated guess don't work when you are tinfoil hat wearing kool-aid drinker
- 04/02/2012 09:33:49 PM
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