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True, but everyone also knew Paul spoke it fluently, and he would have been an ideal choice. Joel Send a noteboard - 24/09/2012 06:20:22 AM
Mark was known as the translator for Peter, so that's the closest you can get to the Petrine tradition for something written in Greek.

Fair point, and that fits with Marks general recognition as the earliest extant Gospel. The same logic applies to Luke with regard to Paul. However, in both cases anyone seeking to borrow from the stature of an apostle would have naturally chosen to falsely present the work as Peter or Pauls rather than merely of their scribes. If I wanted to fake a manuscript from the Kennedy White House, attributing it to JFK himself would carry far more weight than attributing it to Ted Sorensen, and I were going to lie I might as well go big. Likewise if I found someones else manuscript and wanted to present it as a historical document.

The point is that all of the gospels circulated anonymously. Mark may have been written by Mark, but the attribution comes after the real Mark would have been dead. In fact, Mark is the only one of the gospels where the attribution might come early, if Eusebius is correct in his attribution. Matthew doesn't appear at the top of "his" gospel until the Third Century (which means that the Thomas attribution for the Gospel of Thomas predates Matthew's attribution), and Luke remains anonymous to Papias, Justin and Marcion, and only starting with Irenaeus in the late Second Century is there any attribution of a gospel to him (Adv. Haer. 3.1.2). The first time the gospel (together with Acts) is attributed to him at the top of the copy is in the late Second Century.

That is reasonable, but someone a century or more later scribbling a Thomas byline is no more significant than someone else scribbling a Mark or John byline.
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