If you back the opposition they are 'tools of the west' (which they usually get accused of anyway, but now there would be real proof) and if you don't you leave a nuclear country in the hands of a gang of nutbars.
However, as has been pointed out, North Korea is a nuclear country in the hands of nutbars and isn't actually all that scary. A nuclear Iran would probably be similar - the only problem would be if they decided to launch a military action that they figured no one would counter because of their nukes. I can't see that as likely as if the military were that occupied the resistance might just stage a coup d'etats while they were off fighting.
The scariest thing is Ahmadinejad, who is a true loon, but I'm not sure his handlers would really let him near the button.
The second scariest thing is Israel. They have, in the past, been known to pull strikes in other countries that they feel have threatened them and Iran's nutjob president has done just that. Contrary to anyone's belief, the Israeli Air Force could deal very well with any launching sites and if Iran were to start handing off nukes to Hamas or Hezbollah, well, that would not end well for Iran.
It's a thorny question. A lot of the Iranian PEOPLE are pretty forward thinking - Shiite Islam has often been less backward than Sunni in a lot of ways - but their government is run by a nutjob with some very scary back room handlers who are both pretty proficient while still being pretty out of touch and also are well supported by a significant and armed portion of their own population.
Sanctions, as always, are largely a waste of time. They don't really much discomfit the senior people and give them a propaganda weapon to use against their enemies. A war isn't really the answer.
It is interesting to imagine just what Iran might say if, however, all their research and missile facilities were blown to bits mysteriously in a single night without anyone taking credit for it...
However, as has been pointed out, North Korea is a nuclear country in the hands of nutbars and isn't actually all that scary. A nuclear Iran would probably be similar - the only problem would be if they decided to launch a military action that they figured no one would counter because of their nukes. I can't see that as likely as if the military were that occupied the resistance might just stage a coup d'etats while they were off fighting.
The scariest thing is Ahmadinejad, who is a true loon, but I'm not sure his handlers would really let him near the button.
The second scariest thing is Israel. They have, in the past, been known to pull strikes in other countries that they feel have threatened them and Iran's nutjob president has done just that. Contrary to anyone's belief, the Israeli Air Force could deal very well with any launching sites and if Iran were to start handing off nukes to Hamas or Hezbollah, well, that would not end well for Iran.
It's a thorny question. A lot of the Iranian PEOPLE are pretty forward thinking - Shiite Islam has often been less backward than Sunni in a lot of ways - but their government is run by a nutjob with some very scary back room handlers who are both pretty proficient while still being pretty out of touch and also are well supported by a significant and armed portion of their own population.
Sanctions, as always, are largely a waste of time. They don't really much discomfit the senior people and give them a propaganda weapon to use against their enemies. A war isn't really the answer.
It is interesting to imagine just what Iran might say if, however, all their research and missile facilities were blown to bits mysteriously in a single night without anyone taking credit for it...
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Why Iran's dictators can be deterred
- 23/02/2010 01:31:52 PM
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Not sure he showed us how they can be deterred
- 23/02/2010 01:56:42 PM
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Er yeah, that's totally the argument I was going for.
- 23/02/2010 02:06:52 PM
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No Palin was simply cover for the "we just have to accept Iran will get the bomb argument"
- 23/02/2010 02:26:45 PM
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She wasn't cover for anything, but I like how this argument keeps going that way.
- 23/02/2010 02:36:47 PM
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As I have noted it isn't conseratives that keep bring her up
- 23/02/2010 03:26:11 PM
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and I tried to take her out of the argument. But here we are.
- 23/02/2010 03:39:29 PM
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dealing with the repercussions of attacking another Islamic country may be our best option
- 23/02/2010 04:25:47 PM
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The world needs to decide how it feels about non-proliferation.
- 23/02/2010 07:11:51 PM
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yes American used the bomb so now we should let everyone else take a turn *NM*
- 24/02/2010 06:22:23 AM
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It would certainly demonstrate the folly of that view.
- 24/02/2010 06:49:56 AM
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well hell then why not just sel them nukes and get it over with
- 24/02/2010 02:33:00 PM
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I really don't think the folly need be demonstrated more than once.
- 28/02/2010 02:49:30 AM
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I think this guy lives on the moon
- 23/02/2010 02:51:20 PM
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I was just talking to Lupine about how I like your posts, but I'm gonna make an exception here.
- 23/02/2010 09:28:44 PM
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- 23/02/2010 09:28:44 PM
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You'll have to link that then, I always like to read things that feed my ego
- 24/02/2010 12:17:37 AM
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- 24/02/2010 12:17:37 AM
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Oh, it was on AIM.
- 24/02/2010 01:13:07 PM
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Ah well, I'll have to self feed my ego instead, fortunately I'm very good at that
- 25/02/2010 03:44:43 PM
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- 25/02/2010 03:44:43 PM
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Here's an article in response to Zakaria's article
- 23/02/2010 03:19:41 PM
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I generally don't care for Fareed, but believe he's right this time.
- 23/02/2010 05:59:00 PM
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Iran is a thorny problem
- 24/02/2010 05:38:09 AM
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I still don't believe North Korea harmless.
- 24/02/2010 06:59:15 AM
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I never used the term 'harmless'
- 24/02/2010 10:01:14 PM
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Fair point, sorry.
- 25/02/2010 12:45:47 PM
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No worries - I was just making sure you understood my position
- 25/02/2010 05:19:10 PM
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Re: No worries - I was just making sure you understood my position
- 28/02/2010 02:30:26 AM
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Re: No worries - I was just making sure you understood my position
- 01/03/2010 03:53:58 PM
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A carrot without a stick is just a free carrot.
- 02/03/2010 08:01:23 AM
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They can hit Tokyo
- 25/02/2010 06:10:44 PM
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So?
- 25/02/2010 07:01:37 PM
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I think you are grossly overestimating our border security
- 25/02/2010 08:03:13 PM
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Well, I KNOW you're ignorant about a lot of things and this shows it.
- 25/02/2010 08:56:45 PM
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Yes you are the Great Cold War Warrior of the chairforce
- 28/02/2010 06:44:31 PM
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Oh I'm sorry - so you're not so much ignorant as idiot.
- 01/03/2010 03:48:32 PM
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Israel does not have the military capability to destroy or significantly damage Iran's nuclear sites
- 24/02/2010 12:33:00 PM
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You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about - and it shows to anyone who does
- 24/02/2010 10:33:29 PM
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I think this ties in well with this article
- 25/02/2010 09:56:04 AM
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It's going to happen regardless sooner or later; might as well get out in front and claim leadership
- 01/03/2010 06:29:57 AM
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