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The Democrats definitely won in regards to changing the conversation. The Shrike Send a noteboard - 14/07/2017 06:06:58 PM

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So, everyone left, right, or center, has their own idea about what involvement Russia may or may not have had in our 2016 elections and possibly with the Trump campaign. All of that is murky and in much dispute.

You know what is generally not in dispute? The fact that all the "damage" done was to release to the public truthful information about how the Democrats operated during the primaries and other unsavory little tidbits. And, if one is to believe recent news reports, possibly trying to inject truthful elements about Hillary's possibly criminal behavior.

So, regardless of any other aspect to this, the core of it is this: all this drama is, at its heart, about the American voters getting additional truthful information during the campaign. That amuses me greatly, from weary watcher of all the political chatter.

"THEY POSSIBLY, MAYBE, COLLUDED WITH THE RUSSIANS TO TELL THE TRUTH!!!"

Quelle horreur.


It would also be nice for many who are outraged by Russia's involvement in our electoral process to take a closer look at how often WE have been involved in other countries's elections.

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The truly amusing thing about all this. - 13/07/2017 02:32:33 PM 1153 Views
that's the thing with muddying the waters - 13/07/2017 03:20:24 PM 559 Views
The media lost the respect they commanded back then. - 13/07/2017 10:42:27 PM 463 Views
The other thing I was thinking.... - 13/07/2017 07:05:27 PM 637 Views
We know how they would react because it happened. - 13/07/2017 10:37:43 PM 522 Views
So imprison Clinton and Trump both. Just put Kasich in. I don't mind. - 14/07/2017 03:40:02 AM 552 Views
No thanks. We don't need Mr. Magoo as President. - 14/07/2017 08:46:14 PM 576 Views
And why would we imprison Trump, counselor? - 14/07/2017 08:47:34 PM 524 Views
This is your defense? "Other people would do it too?" *NM* - 14/07/2017 03:36:26 AM 260 Views
I don't need a defense.... - 14/07/2017 08:31:12 PM 474 Views
Actually it is illegal in several ways - 15/07/2017 01:55:02 AM 612 Views
dirt on an opponent is equivilent to a monetary disbursment? *NM* - 15/07/2017 03:43:28 AM 375 Views
I don't have an opinion on whether the law was broken here. - 15/07/2017 05:12:08 AM 650 Views
Yes - 15/07/2017 02:34:53 PM 533 Views
Bah - 15/07/2017 04:56:08 PM 491 Views
I very well could be wrong, but I don't think that I am. - 17/07/2017 04:50:24 PM 539 Views
I'm waiting for Little Marco to send me a subpoena. - 13/07/2017 10:40:25 PM 557 Views
That's a very good point that needs further exploration - 13/07/2017 11:54:56 PM 551 Views
The New York Times still has a fold? - 14/07/2017 02:28:48 PM 507 Views
What are your opinions on Manning and Snowden? I honestly don't remember. - 14/07/2017 03:42:09 AM 507 Views
Well, the Russian government did not swear oaths as members of the US military or public servants - 14/07/2017 04:58:18 AM 598 Views
Extend the query to Wikileaks publishing the documents, then. - 14/07/2017 10:34:53 AM 579 Views
Are you sure? - 14/07/2017 02:29:51 PM 432 Views
That only works if you can claim with a straight face the GOP wouldn't care - 14/07/2017 03:32:43 PM 583 Views
You've misunderstood me - 14/07/2017 06:22:21 PM 577 Views
I don't think I have. - 15/07/2017 02:34:27 AM 520 Views
No I'm not. - 15/07/2017 03:09:04 AM 597 Views
Re: No I'm not. - 15/07/2017 05:07:42 AM 534 Views
Re: No I'm not. - 17/07/2017 02:55:54 PM 601 Views
Re: No I'm not. - 18/07/2017 01:27:06 AM 491 Views
Yes you are. - 18/07/2017 06:40:45 AM 465 Views
You made the right choice, then. *NM* - 18/07/2017 03:37:40 PM 305 Views
It's really the only way I can get into cool threads - 18/07/2017 04:03:05 PM 463 Views
The Democrats definitely won in regards to changing the conversation. - 14/07/2017 06:06:58 PM 588 Views
The other amusing thing is the GOP voters' sudden love for Russia. - 14/07/2017 06:43:12 PM 604 Views
There was a great article in the NYT about that - 14/07/2017 08:29:29 PM 670 Views
There's nothing "sudden" about it for me. *NM* - 14/07/2017 08:49:38 PM 326 Views
I know. I was going to add a comment about how you must love that. - 14/07/2017 11:08:41 PM 1175 Views
I'm considering pitching to go on Fox or something. - 18/07/2017 05:41:56 AM 514 Views
Murray Gell-Mann Amnesia - 18/07/2017 04:10:01 PM 716 Views
Good idea. - 23/07/2017 05:50:33 PM 563 Views
You are the fly in every republican cake - 15/07/2017 01:56:24 AM 583 Views
I really don't understand 99% of your responses - 18/07/2017 06:42:09 AM 602 Views
Yes Tom, Yes Exactly *NM* - 18/07/2017 03:46:22 PM 295 Views
It was and still just the isolationist wing of the party that feels that way - 19/07/2017 01:27:41 PM 537 Views

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