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Why don't you prove that someone in the last thirty years was shot by cops ONLY for skin color? Cannoli Send a noteboard - 08/08/2018 02:36:50 AM


But we don't, or didn't, have such a broad definition of "when necessary", and we certainly don't think shooting people because of their skin color is acceptable.
Again, prove that this is ever the case, as opposed to an accusation by people flagrantly picking sides based on skin color.
the most often badly trained,

I would ask you to prove this as well, but you clearly have no idea what good or bad training entails, much less what is or should be the priority in police training.
horrible excuses for cops get to call this "self defense", because, you see, they genuinely thought their life was threatened.
But that is exactly the excuse offered for blacks assaulting, resisting or running from the police... that they are genuinely afraid of their lives.

And it would help if BLM actually came up with a case where color of skin is the only possible motivation, instead of the Ferguson incident, where the victim WAS a criminal, the officer was told to look for a man of his description, saw him in violation of traffic laws, and was attacked for approaching him! And BLM types, especially their RAFO.com spokesmen like moondog, say things like "no one deserves to die for shoplifting" or "jaywalking" and suggesting, if not outright stating, that the cop accosted Brown just because he was black. In fact, Brown was, by walking in the street, behaving in a conspicuous manner that made it hard to overlook him, and he did match the description circulated of the suspect in a strong arm robbery shortly before (he matched that description because he, in all probability, was the perpetrator, of which there is only doubt, because there is no point in trying the case of a dead suspect - Brown's guilt, of course, was not the issue, the issue is that he matched the description of an individual who was recorded committing the robbery, and the officer's approach was justified, rather than a so-called case of "walking while black" )



Then you don't need to read Toxoplasma or Rage, or anything else, to know that whoever BLM holds up as a cause for concern, the fact is there is way too many unarmed men being killed by cops.

The fact that Michael Brown caused physical injury to Officer Wilson without a weapon shows exactly how facile that qualification is. The question is capacity for violence, which people have without weapons, or with incongrous objects.

You say without support or explanation that there are "too many" incidents, which is a subjective assessment, but one can also say that there are "too many" incidents of criminal or violent behavior being passed off as innocence, or mendacious claims of racial activity. There are many outright fraudluent cases of racism, or cases of police officers being assaulted by blacks, or of black officers involved in the arrest and racism being used as a motive anyway.



I'm not sure you're thinking this argument of yours through. So you claim to have the right view of a morally awful situation. But because you perceive others with a similar position as being too angry, too insistent... whatever, you find yourself losing support for the view you yourself think is correct. Uhh.. kudos?
No, he's saying that he finds himself turning against people with whom he agrees in principle, because of their misconduct, mendacious arguments and unworthy causes or misapplication of principles.
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