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You're waaay to obsessed with Egwene, Cannoli. fionwe1987 Send a noteboard - 07/08/2018 06:16:49 AM

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A few years ago we had an extensive argument on the WoTMB where you vehemently defended her and refused to acknowledge the slightest fault whatsoever in her murder of two helpless women.

Yeah, enemy combatants are innocent women. Nice try.


Cops are under real pressure and real stress, and receives less combat training than our even-more celebrated soldiers, who perpetuated disgraceful massacres in Vietnam.

And this lack of training isn't outrageous and wrong because...?


They are not in black and white fantasy scenarios with superhuman capacity to make distinctions between friend and foe.

They do not have to be. In the case of Tamir Rice, for instance, the call indicated the gun was probably fake, and the probability of the person being a juvenile. This info was not passed on to the officers. Exactly why you think superhuman abilities are needed to correctly transcribe a call and rely crucial information to cops is beyond me.


But despite her claiming powers which necessitate a much higher moral standard, you keep defending Egwene's lapses of judgment as perfectly understandable for an ordinary human being. Cops are not supposed to be superhuman action heroes, they are supposed to civilians, which is the whole point, in order to preserve their fellow citizens' freedom against military rule.

Egwene would have been perfectly justified, within the moral standards of her own world or our own, to blast every single Seanchan who was in that corridor. That you think a child playing in a playground is comparable to an invading army intent on killing or enslaving just reveals your deep racism and moral corruption.
I also don't know where you get this idea that "America" is proud of cops. They are almost universally antagonistic characters in movies.

That's ludicrous. There are entire TV shows, not to mention buddy cop movies, where they're anything but. Maybe you watch an alt-universe version of American cinema and TV? Certainly not out of the realm of possibility.
Even in movies where the hero is a cop, he is a minority or outlier, who has to buck the whole establishment. Except for Die Hard 3, I cannot think of a single movie or TV show which has cops, but none of whom are antagonistic.

Wait a minute... for America to be proud of its cops, no single cop can ever be shown as antagonistic in a single movie or show? Most of us have saner standards, Cannoli.


This is a country whose care of its military veterans is so shitty that reforming the system was one of the few bipartisan issues of the last presidential campaign,

And look at all the magnificent reforms that have followed... err no.

And I'm not saying American pride in cops, or its soldiers, isn't hypocritical. As is often the case in this country, these sentiments are trotted out when it is politically convenient, not out of some principled adherence to a viewpoint.



that spat on its soliders coming home from Vietnam, and yet, explicitly honors soldiers in the exact same stadiums where millionaire athletes defy requests to honor the flag and country by kneeling against the police.

Oh yeah. Kneeling during the anthem is kneeling against the police. It just cannot be a statement about how the system preys on and betrays the weakest of its citizenry. Oh no.

Also, for someone who seems so furious at this disrespect to the flag, I notice that far from being outraged, you were defending the rights of Confederate Flag wielding racists in Charlottesville. Why is that political speech worth protecting, but not this one? Because you agree with one and not the other?


To the extent that there is pride in the police, it is backlash against the vile BLM or leftover from 9-11, when a few hundred police officers died because they entered a collapsing skyscraper in an attempt to rescue occupants. That's basically the extreme we need to go to in the US for cops to be really honored or popular.

Oh yes. Not indicting a guy who lied about his evaluation as emotionally unstable and unfit for duty in his previous police job, who then shot a kid with a toy gun... what is that if not a blind deference to police authority?

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As our soldiers learned from Vietnam on, a 10 year old can kill you as quickly as an adult. *NM* damookster - 06/08/2018 03:36:38 PM 146 Views
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What a well reasoned argument random thoughts - 08/08/2018 07:26:36 PM 324 Views
I didn't think I'd see you, of all people, using this particular argument. Cannoli - 06/08/2018 11:48:17 PM 340 Views
You're waaay to obsessed with Egwene, Cannoli. fionwe1987 - 07/08/2018 06:16:49 AM 298 Views
I don't wanna comment on this whole thing, or get into y'all's spat, but... TyrReborn - 07/08/2018 04:16:10 PM 292 Views
They were not innocents! fionwe1987 - 07/08/2018 04:25:54 PM 330 Views
Innocent is irrelevant. Disarmed is the pertinent qualifier. Cannoli - 08/08/2018 01:36:01 AM 313 Views
I'm not the one defending her actions while criticizing real people for doing less egregious things Cannoli - 08/08/2018 12:59:52 AM 307 Views
Isn't this pretty much par for the course, from the left? TyrReborn - 08/08/2018 05:21:45 AM 284 Views
Not to mention this whole issue involves unequal generalizations. Cannoli - 08/08/2018 08:01:45 AM 324 Views
This damookster - 08/08/2018 02:47:29 PM 291 Views
Re: Interesting. I'd like your input. Cannoli - 06/08/2018 11:27:43 PM 346 Views
Emmett Till tried to mug an undercover cop now??? Wow fionwe1987 - 07/08/2018 06:28:36 AM 284 Views
I notice you have absolutely nothing in response aside from my mixing up Edmund Perry & Emmet Till Cannoli - 07/08/2018 11:12:26 PM 302 Views
BLM almost lost me to the policing reform cause aerocontrols - 07/08/2018 05:01:52 PM 298 Views
Is the argument that "really bad dudes" don't deserve civil rights protections? fionwe1987 - 07/08/2018 05:11:53 PM 320 Views
no damookster - 07/08/2018 05:50:59 PM 293 Views
Preaching to the choir, man. Or maybe b!tching at the choir? aerocontrols - 07/08/2018 05:57:11 PM 288 Views
well said *NM* damookster - 07/08/2018 06:27:58 PM 136 Views
Re: Preaching to the choir, man. Or maybe b!tching at the choir? fionwe1987 - 07/08/2018 08:00:13 PM 286 Views
More black criminals are shot per capita. More whites are shot in total. damookster - 07/08/2018 08:20:12 PM 404 Views
Correct. fionwe1987 - 07/08/2018 09:38:56 PM 274 Views
Yeah, you really misunderstand me, apparently aerocontrols - 07/08/2018 08:53:56 PM 272 Views
Doesn't seem that way to me fionwe1987 - 07/08/2018 10:24:40 PM 303 Views
Why don't you prove that someone in the last thirty years was shot by cops ONLY for skin color? Cannoli - 08/08/2018 02:36:50 AM 272 Views
I agree with most of this. Cannoli - 08/08/2018 02:00:18 AM 296 Views
I don't know if I have time to respond to all of that aerocontrols - 08/08/2018 08:54:37 PM 280 Views
I dont agree with the camera footage being released random thoughts - 08/08/2018 07:36:29 PM 300 Views
The problem with the camera footage not being released damookster - 08/08/2018 07:45:44 PM 286 Views
I once argued the same, for a different reason aerocontrols - 08/08/2018 08:45:26 PM 283 Views
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