Active Users:259 Time:08/05/2024 11:26:25 PM
Re: Not precisely the point... fionwe1987 Send a noteboard - 25/09/2018 07:08:36 PM

View original post
So looking into it, they can direct the FBI to do another background check digging into the claims, though from what I've read, it seems there were more witnesses and the like to be able to check with for Clarence Thomas than with the current first allegation.

Not true. There's Mark Judge, who Dr. Blasey alleges was in the room, and who has flipped his story once already, and who has admitted to being blackout drunk often during his high school days. He can and should be asked questions under the penalty of perjury.


Regarding who is asking though, my suspicion is that the Democrats are only wanting it investigated, so that it will slow the process enough he can't be confirmed until after the elections, and the Republicans obviously taking the opposite tack, not wanting it investigated so it doesn't slow the process down.

But it doesn't have to take long. The only thing the FBI can do is conduct interviews. There's no forensic evidence to find. It isn't like this will take months!


So neither side looking that good, but I don't think it is telling that the Democrats want it investigated, as I feel they only want it investigated for political reasons.

The political reason for not wanting an attempted rapist on the court? Sure. But there's nothing else. There's no reason the FBI investigation has to go very long at all.


For the accusers, it could be either they are pretty confident, or that they for some reason want to slow the process down as well, and for Kavanaugh, it is either he is guilty so doesn't it investigated, or is innocent and doesn't want it slowed down / risk not being a Supreme Court Judge because of an investigation.

It isn't that simple. Dr. Blasey would be making her statement to the FBI under penalty of perjury, as would anyone else supporting her story, like her husband or her therapist. It becomes much harder to believe they're politically motivated if they are willing to do that. It also means the FBI will be looking to check if this was a politically motivated accusation, and if they're confident it is not, being willing to be investigated, again, under the penalty of perjury, says a lot for the credibility of her accusation.


I don't know, obviously, where the truth lies, and agree that ideally we would have an investigation to clear it up - but only potential issue I see is that an investigation could clear Kavanuagh, but cause enough time to elapse that he doesn't end up getting the position on the court, and thus whether there is a way to mitigate this outcome.

That really isn't true. There is no reason any FBI investigation on this issue would take very long. Their job will consist of taking statements, not combing through houses for forensic evidence.


On the flipside, and I don't know what the laws are, is it possible for him to be placed on the court, an investigation to still take place, and him be thrown off the court later if found he was guilty as such?

Impeachment. However, there IS the fact that Maryland has no statute of limitations for the crime Dr. Blasey alleges. I have no idea what happens if Montgomery County PD opens a case, as they've said they're willing to. A sitting Supreme Court judge being questioned, and possibly arrested and convicted? I have no idea what that does, but it certainly legitimizes the court. That there's such a simple way to avoid it which the GOP will not take is really awful.

Reply to message
So, Kavanaugh... - 24/09/2018 06:43:08 PM 1221 Views
When it was just the one - 24/09/2018 08:13:45 PM 431 Views
Re: When it was just the one - 24/09/2018 10:02:45 PM 393 Views
What reeks of dishonesty - 24/09/2018 10:17:14 PM 436 Views
How is it dishonest? - 24/09/2018 10:27:36 PM 333 Views
So why did she wait from when it was given to her in August? - 24/09/2018 10:35:32 PM 341 Views
Re: So why did she wait from when it was given to her in August? - 24/09/2018 10:41:11 PM 339 Views
And you just proved my point. - 24/09/2018 11:05:07 PM 354 Views
The FBI? - 24/09/2018 08:22:28 PM 388 Views
They also do background checks... - 24/09/2018 09:59:54 PM 319 Views
The big difference between the two... - 24/09/2018 10:12:40 PM 316 Views
How? - 24/09/2018 10:29:25 PM 350 Views
Please.... - 24/09/2018 10:39:42 PM 339 Views
What is the magic number? - 25/09/2018 12:22:28 AM 361 Views
Re: What is the magic number? - 25/09/2018 05:01:04 PM 307 Views
Maryland has abolished the statute of limitations for rape and sexual violence. - 25/09/2018 06:59:29 PM 357 Views
Except for the fact... - 25/09/2018 10:09:43 PM 295 Views
Isn't that very subjective of you *NM* - 25/09/2018 11:58:14 PM 211 Views
So here's a question.... - 24/09/2018 10:10:47 PM 366 Views
Re: So here's a question.... - 24/09/2018 10:39:30 PM 305 Views
Re: So here's a question.... - 24/09/2018 10:59:32 PM 358 Views
Re: So here's a question.... - 24/09/2018 10:59:40 PM 342 Views
Re: So here's a question.... - 24/09/2018 11:29:44 PM 369 Views
You mad bro? - 25/09/2018 12:35:10 AM 361 Views
Its the rape aplogy - 25/09/2018 01:10:51 AM 323 Views
Re: Its the rape aplogy - 25/09/2018 04:42:35 PM 319 Views
Oh yes, you did. - 25/09/2018 06:57:22 PM 321 Views
Re: Oh yes, you did. - 25/09/2018 10:13:55 PM 314 Views
Not in the least - 25/09/2018 04:41:20 PM 315 Views
you do realize... - 24/09/2018 11:54:18 PM 393 Views
Yeah a "process" sometimes does not resolve things - 25/09/2018 12:26:39 AM 359 Views
I completely understand the importance of process - 25/09/2018 01:13:08 AM 359 Views
I disagree - 25/09/2018 02:03:07 AM 303 Views
Not precisely the point... - 25/09/2018 02:01:44 AM 334 Views
Re: Not precisely the point... - 25/09/2018 08:42:53 AM 317 Views
Re: Not precisely the point... - 25/09/2018 04:59:19 PM 313 Views
Re: Not precisely the point... - 25/09/2018 07:46:07 PM 326 Views
It would take a month or more probably.... - 25/09/2018 10:19:36 PM 310 Views
The FBI Thomas/Hill investigation took 3 days. - 25/09/2018 10:49:35 PM 297 Views
Re: Not precisely the point... - 25/09/2018 07:08:36 PM 295 Views
Re: Not precisely the point... - 25/09/2018 07:42:03 PM 295 Views
I want to believe her, I really do. But... - 25/09/2018 02:55:45 AM 357 Views
No one is asking you to - 25/09/2018 07:11:25 PM 320 Views
So, hold up. - 26/09/2018 12:05:07 AM 330 Views
An investigation into what, exactly? - 26/09/2018 04:44:30 AM 402 Views
It's all dirty, dirty politics - 26/09/2018 03:25:57 AM 373 Views
Was Dennis Hastert an Angel or was he Cancer? How about the Catholic Church? *NM* - 26/09/2018 08:09:18 PM 169 Views
The Catholic Church is pretty much the furthest left of the major Christian denominations. - 26/09/2018 09:49:29 PM 374 Views
The Walloons, and they're historically the least religious ones. - 26/09/2018 10:31:55 PM 322 Views
So just a thought.... - 26/09/2018 10:46:30 PM 329 Views
Hypocrisy is part of human nature, and religion does not change this. - 26/09/2018 10:50:05 PM 299 Views
Depends, really. - 26/09/2018 11:15:59 PM 280 Views
there's an old folk song from when I was a little kid... - 26/09/2018 11:52:01 PM 301 Views
The accusations may be true or may not be - but yeah, the Dems played it dirty. - 26/09/2018 07:57:23 PM 343 Views
Are we seeing the same thing? - 26/09/2018 08:06:09 PM 315 Views
I would assume that we are. - 26/09/2018 08:15:53 PM 348 Views
oh please - 26/09/2018 10:09:20 PM 287 Views
I hope the sinkhole opens up again and swallows me whole. - 27/09/2018 12:58:15 AM 333 Views
Well there is going to be an FBI investigation after all... - 29/09/2018 04:57:04 AM 311 Views
Perhaps I am wrong, but I suspect... - 29/09/2018 05:42:30 PM 324 Views
The world is not a just place - 29/09/2018 11:18:52 PM 285 Views
Is this homophobic for me pointing this out? - 29/09/2018 11:08:04 PM 304 Views
Yes. Yes it is. - 30/09/2018 03:47:31 PM 328 Views
It begins... - 30/09/2018 03:53:52 PM 320 Views
It's not about the drinking, it's about Kavanaugh lying about the drinking. - 30/09/2018 08:07:41 PM 323 Views
Even if it could be established that he drank heavily in high school - 30/09/2018 09:54:34 PM 299 Views
No, but it would mean he refused to tell the truth in the Senate hearings. - 30/09/2018 10:16:22 PM 433 Views
Highly Partisan? - 01/10/2018 07:00:29 PM 285 Views
Is a Clintons' Conspiracy highly partisan? - 01/10/2018 07:36:16 PM 307 Views
There's a transcript, so this is easy enough... - 01/10/2018 07:52:27 PM 287 Views
Some of that is partisan.... - 01/10/2018 09:57:29 PM 300 Views
Can we reframe the language / question being asked? - 01/10/2018 10:08:45 PM 382 Views
How much of a role model... - 01/10/2018 10:32:03 PM 325 Views
Oh My! - 01/10/2018 10:51:18 PM 302 Views
So you're Vulcan now? - 01/10/2018 10:54:24 PM 282 Views
No sitting Supreme Court Justice would ever be that partisan, at least not in this century... - 01/10/2018 08:22:06 PM 296 Views
Lifetime appointments for the Supreme Court - 01/10/2018 09:57:10 PM 280 Views
yes, people will always believe the hype - 01/10/2018 10:11:14 PM 299 Views
Jesus is apolitical man - 01/10/2018 10:29:06 PM 291 Views
Mark Zuckenberg. Truly a savior for the 21st Century. *NM* - 01/10/2018 10:44:34 PM 144 Views
Isn't he more of a Constantine I? - 01/10/2018 10:48:54 PM 330 Views
Honestly, it would be impossible for him not to lie, given the circumstance - 01/10/2018 01:50:52 PM 317 Views
Note to self do not give AgentApple the ring of Gyges - 01/10/2018 06:16:00 PM 315 Views
LOL - 01/10/2018 09:05:59 PM 284 Views
Except that he's a judge trying to become an SC justice, and you're not. - 01/10/2018 06:31:28 PM 294 Views
Trump is the reason... - 01/10/2018 07:01:50 PM 320 Views
The senator wjho made that argument lied about serving in Vietnam - 05/10/2018 04:06:47 PM 278 Views
And Ford lied about her fear of flying so where does that leave us? - 05/10/2018 04:04:52 PM 295 Views

Reply to Message