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Re: Not precisely the point... gban007 Send a noteboard - 25/09/2018 07:46:07 PM

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View original postI don't know, obviously, where the truth lies, and agree that ideally we would have an investigation to clear it up - but only potential issue I see is that an investigation could clear Kavanuagh, but cause enough time to elapse that he doesn't end up getting the position on the court, and thus whether there is a way to mitigate this outcome.

I generally agree with you, but I wanted to say this....
Kavanaugh is clear. Let's remember that he is considered innocent, until he is proven guilty. Accusations and allegations don't amount to anything. Facts are everything. So this investigation is going to produce facts from something 36 years ago, which even the witness is foggy on? And then the two witnesses who she says were there are both "No...it didn't happen." What else do we have to look into? Let's start thinking logically and not emotionally.

So let's say the "investigation" takes place...stalls everything, and then he isn't confirmed. He just lost his job on the unsubstantiated claims of someone. No recompense for him. No consequences for her, but a ton of consequences for him. This is not right.


View original postOn the flipside, and I don't know what the laws are, is it possible for him to be placed on the court, an investigation to still take place, and him be thrown off the court later if found he was guilty as such?

There are laws for it...sort of. If he was confirmed, he could be impeached, but it takes a 2/3rds vote of the Senate. Something they would never get. And there can't be a conviction or a crime....the statue of limitations has well passed.

~Jeordam


So does sound like hard to remove him after the fact, but would the investigation take that long? Something I'm curious about, trying to understand the Clarence Thomas timeline, seems like might have taken week for initial round of reinvestigation at least, but that another round may have again taken place later which took another week? How long do they have before it becomes a possibility that he would miss out on the seat?

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