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Ah okay. Sidious Send a noteboard - 25/09/2009 04:36:00 PM

Do you really think it will play out in that manner, though?

It's possible that Mat disagrees with Tuon on the invasion, but I can't see Egwene taking this well.

I'm not sure it's a worthy defense though... "I saved Aes Sedai, so I can destroy the Tower." A little lame, if you ask me.


His argument will be I'm not planning or working toward destroying the Tower, I'm actively waging war against my wife and her is the evidence.


I wonder how Tuon will take it then :)
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Ignore *NM* Rurouni_Kenshin - 30/09/2009 06:20:12 PM 1203 Views
Oh yeah, and... Fanatic-Templar - 29/09/2009 04:22:57 AM 2307 Views
Egwene in this chapter... fionwe1987 - 29/09/2009 05:04:35 AM 2222 Views
Re: Egwene in this chapter... Fanatic-Templar - 29/09/2009 05:59:33 AM 2340 Views
Author thoughts - Audiobook versus reading ajfurst - 29/09/2009 05:30:39 AM 2113 Views
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The Dark One's Touch Rurouni_Kenshin - 30/09/2009 06:21:24 PM 2229 Views
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LOL, I agree. Great Lord of Chaos - 01/10/2009 02:47:18 AM 2098 Views
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