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Agreed Sidious Send a noteboard - 26/09/2009 06:36:01 AM
Unless it's a Moiraine/Be'lal kind of situation.

I don't think they'll have a face to face One Power showdown, no.

But she may well be captured or killed thanks to Egwene's participation in some other, less direct way.


People are getting carried away with the whole protagonist thing. Egwene is much too weak to face a channeler like Mesaana.

What I think will happen is that Egwene will expose the Black Ajah, and thus Mesaana, and they will ambush her. Mesaana will face a horde of individual sisters, but not a circle, and will be forced to retreat. I think RJ wanted to keep most of the Forsaken for the Last Battle... if he kills too many of them before the end we could be left with too few to create a plausible resistance.
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This made my morning happy. - 24/09/2009 04:45:08 PM 2128 Views
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True. - 24/09/2009 07:21:36 PM 2207 Views
Re: True. - 24/09/2009 07:30:06 PM 2058 Views
Re: I think it's different. - 25/09/2009 03:24:22 AM 2075 Views
There's still a difference... - 25/09/2009 04:28:55 AM 1961 Views
Re: There's still a difference... - 26/09/2009 12:30:28 PM 1987 Views
But... - 26/09/2009 03:44:31 PM 2002 Views
Re: But... - 26/09/2009 04:08:35 PM 1999 Views
She could have not bungled up... - 26/09/2009 05:17:02 PM 1805 Views
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he's saying that. - 26/09/2009 10:12:16 PM 1890 Views
She also deposes Alviarin... - 26/09/2009 10:47:07 PM 1975 Views
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Ever had rancid oil? - 01/10/2009 08:42:59 PM 2748 Views
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Two possibilities that come to mind - 24/09/2009 05:11:41 PM 2108 Views
Or - 24/09/2009 05:45:36 PM 2240 Views
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No they don't - 24/09/2009 11:03:09 PM 1952 Views
Oh, I thought you meant Elaida's new obedience oath *NM* - 25/09/2009 09:15:48 AM 1195 Views
Her part will probably be... - 24/09/2009 06:06:08 PM 2132 Views
I think her mission has changed. - 24/09/2009 06:08:11 PM 1895 Views
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Good 1st chapter of Egwene's plotline! - 24/09/2009 05:15:32 PM 2096 Views
Painful to listen to - 24/09/2009 05:33:22 PM 2141 Views
Not finished it yet - 24/09/2009 05:42:18 PM 2219 Views
WHITE! - 24/09/2009 06:20:43 PM 2074 Views
Not White! (spoilers) And Seanchan attack idea. - 28/09/2009 02:26:06 AM 2155 Views
Yes, Mesaana's plain white dress seems somewhat peculiar - 24/09/2009 06:43:45 PM 2224 Views
But what if she has no choice but to stay? - 24/09/2009 08:02:01 PM 1873 Views
Are you kidding? Moridin would kill her - 24/09/2009 10:50:34 PM 1967 Views
She doesn't.. - 25/09/2009 06:36:22 AM 1926 Views
If this is true, it could be a ploy - 25/09/2009 03:06:45 AM 2081 Views
Plus, it avoids getting tangled in the Black Ajah hunt - 25/09/2009 03:11:38 AM 1846 Views
I struggle to think of Mesaana as a novice - 25/09/2009 05:16:57 AM 2084 Views
I disagree - 25/09/2009 11:08:34 AM 2159 Views
nice idea *NM* - 24/09/2009 08:29:56 PM 1142 Views
I liked it *Spoilers* - 24/09/2009 05:49:41 PM 2031 Views
I think... - 24/09/2009 07:01:42 PM 2217 Views
Re: I think... - 24/09/2009 07:33:34 PM 1826 Views
Re: I think... - 24/09/2009 08:00:09 PM 2167 Views
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Re: Wasn't there a high turnover in War of Power as well? - 25/09/2009 03:43:22 PM 2070 Views
Chosen have been mindtrapped before - 25/09/2009 04:32:18 PM 1684 Views
Re: I think... - 25/09/2009 07:25:34 PM 1993 Views
Surely worse happened in the War of Power though before the seals were laid - 24/09/2009 07:58:54 PM 2014 Views
I was totally caught off guard! - 24/09/2009 05:50:39 PM 2038 Views
I all excited! - 24/09/2009 06:26:23 PM 1940 Views
Yay - 24/09/2009 07:00:41 PM 2216 Views
Egwene is arrogant as ever...thinking Rand can't possibly get along without guidance *NM* - 24/09/2009 08:25:24 PM 1366 Views
is she wrong? - 24/09/2009 08:34:44 PM 2113 Views
The problem is that Egwene isn't honest with herself. Two afterthouts as edits - 24/09/2009 08:43:38 PM 2274 Views
Re: The problem is that Egwene isn't honest with herself. - 24/09/2009 08:46:09 PM 2069 Views
I'm sure Moridin knows how to too - 27/09/2009 03:59:49 PM 1950 Views
Re: is she wrong? - 25/09/2009 03:38:09 AM 2133 Views
Re: is she wrong? - 25/09/2009 04:30:28 AM 1922 Views
You're totally wrong - 25/09/2009 02:23:27 PM 2093 Views
Re: You're totally wrong - 25/09/2009 03:32:22 PM 2049 Views
but she was absolutely essential in the successful completion - 29/09/2009 02:55:13 PM 2302 Views
I like Egwene but I didn't like her statement - 25/09/2009 05:03:33 AM 2233 Views
I agree, and one more reason why I agree - 25/09/2009 02:27:44 PM 2109 Views
I disagree in some ways - 25/09/2009 03:23:35 PM 1879 Views
I agree, and that is Rand's problem in the first place. - 25/09/2009 07:27:22 PM 2032 Views
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She wants part of the glory. *NM* - 25/09/2009 06:31:47 AM 1116 Views
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I can never decide what I think will happen - 24/09/2009 08:44:03 PM 2109 Views
Re: I can never decide what I think will happen - 24/09/2009 09:25:18 PM 2031 Views
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I agree with you. Rebels are harder to take (rebels have Asha'man too) *NM* - 24/09/2009 09:59:10 PM 1195 Views
So do the Tower Reds, only the Seanchan don't know that yet... - 25/09/2009 04:46:17 AM 1930 Views
Yet according to one of Min's visions, Carlinya gets made "property" - 29/09/2009 03:09:28 PM 1902 Views
Re: Yet according to one of Min's visions, Carlinya gets made "property" - 29/09/2009 03:23:45 PM 2030 Views
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Re: OK, I didn't remember the details correctly - 29/09/2009 04:11:22 PM 2078 Views
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Oops. Then no other interpretations. - 29/09/2009 04:51:07 PM 2020 Views
Potential for conflicting prophecies? - 26/09/2009 08:49:04 PM 1834 Views
no.. - 26/09/2009 09:12:52 PM 1928 Views
The title of book 13... - 24/09/2009 09:19:17 PM 1898 Views
Swing and a miss. - 24/09/2009 10:33:46 PM 2128 Views
As said - 25/09/2009 06:37:46 AM 1895 Views
Or maybe the fortress in the blight? - 25/09/2009 12:51:05 PM 1952 Views
Yes, those Towers... - 25/09/2009 03:10:40 PM 2034 Views
Seems unlikely to me. - 25/09/2009 01:44:27 PM 2042 Views
Yeah, that's possible. - 25/09/2009 03:11:33 PM 2006 Views
Egwene's surprising decision... - 25/09/2009 08:38:51 PM 1891 Views
I think it's an exaggeration - 25/09/2009 09:01:22 PM 2009 Views
Re: Egwene's surprising decision... - 26/09/2009 12:58:51 AM 2051 Views
The Seanchan attack will happen first - 24/09/2009 10:47:50 PM 1905 Views
I think Egwene is building up an immunity to forkroot. *NM* - 25/09/2009 02:03:58 AM 1210 Views
I'm kinda hoping Mesaana hands them all in a basket to Moridin. - 25/09/2009 02:51:55 AM 1816 Views
Egwene's respect reminds me of Niall's comment to Morgase - 25/09/2009 03:39:19 AM 1942 Views
Both at once, I don't think it will be a neat A then B, or B then A - 25/09/2009 03:53:30 AM 1982 Views
How would they possibly hear of Turan in Arad Doman? - 25/09/2009 02:34:34 PM 1975 Views
Raken - they are used as messengers - 25/09/2009 02:43:29 PM 1948 Views
Egwene... surprised me. It was great. - 24/09/2009 08:49:36 PM 1851 Views
I didn't catch any hints as to Mesaana's identity. Were there any? - 24/09/2009 08:51:23 PM 1920 Views
Katerine is Black Ajah - 24/09/2009 10:48:14 PM 2004 Views
Also... this makes me miss RJ even more - 24/09/2009 08:52:52 PM 2242 Views
I experienced just the opposite - 25/09/2009 06:40:53 AM 2092 Views
Totally disagree - 25/09/2009 06:58:36 AM 1919 Views
This was a truely beautiful chapter *NM* - 24/09/2009 10:22:48 PM 1167 Views
Really? - 24/09/2009 11:37:59 PM 1945 Views
Daaayyum - when did Elaida become such a baller/shot caller? - 24/09/2009 11:23:41 PM 1973 Views
I can't wait to actually read the chapter-- I thought it was very well written *NM* - 25/09/2009 12:18:48 AM 1154 Views
In regards to Alviarin. - 25/09/2009 01:32:09 AM 2063 Views
Could Elaida pass a 4th Oath? - 25/09/2009 05:13:08 AM 1994 Views
The Black Ajah would never stand for it, even if the other sisters would - 25/09/2009 06:38:19 AM 2170 Views
And therein lies Elaida's genius... - 25/09/2009 07:08:48 PM 2122 Views
Fain as the source of much of the Tower's woes - 25/09/2009 05:30:49 AM 1960 Views
No one else thinks Fain has had any influence on Elaida's erratic behavior? *NM* - 25/09/2009 05:32:05 PM 1203 Views
I agree. Fain is affecting her, for certain. NT *NM* - 28/09/2009 02:30:45 AM 1248 Views
What about Mesaana? - 25/09/2009 06:03:41 PM 1875 Views
Mat vs Egwene - 25/09/2009 03:34:35 PM 2013 Views
Re: Mat vs Egwene - 25/09/2009 03:38:39 PM 1986 Views
Re: Mat vs Egwene - 25/09/2009 03:40:32 PM 2013 Views
Re: Mat vs Egwene - 25/09/2009 04:16:16 PM 2006 Views
We already saw Mat confront Egwene in Salidar. What more - 25/09/2009 04:18:21 PM 2138 Views
Re: We already saw Mat confront Egwene in Salidar. What more - 25/09/2009 04:37:04 PM 2025 Views
That's not his argument though - 25/09/2009 04:34:35 PM 1841 Views
Ah okay. - 25/09/2009 04:36:00 PM 1945 Views
She seemed okay with it in KoD - 25/09/2009 04:38:53 PM 2080 Views
I think... - 25/09/2009 03:47:26 PM 2069 Views
Nice ideas! *NM* - 25/09/2009 03:51:01 PM 1739 Views
That is really good idea - 25/09/2009 08:12:34 PM 2173 Views
Though... - 26/09/2009 01:32:18 PM 2039 Views
Re: Mat vs Egwene - 25/09/2009 06:15:56 PM 1830 Views
egwene and elaida's 4th oath - 25/09/2009 03:51:36 PM 1972 Views
Egwene's Hypocrisy here is astounding: - 29/09/2009 03:39:25 AM 1980 Views
Egwene and Mesaana - 25/09/2009 06:07:37 PM 2020 Views
Come now...even though Mesaana is whimpy for a Forsaken, she would wipe the floor with Egwene... - 25/09/2009 06:10:13 PM 2051 Views
Alright, I *may* have overlooked that significant point. - 25/09/2009 06:21:09 PM 1885 Views
Agreed - 26/09/2009 06:36:01 AM 1944 Views
Depends on where the battle takes place. TAR = Egwene win. - 02/10/2009 06:10:07 PM 2043 Views
Egwene would need to lead a circle or use an angreal to beat her. *NM* - 25/09/2009 06:31:42 PM 1174 Views
Unless it was based on willpower as in a conflict within Tel'Aran'Rhiod - 25/09/2009 07:19:50 PM 1952 Views
Humph. - 26/09/2009 03:27:09 AM 1899 Views
She was overconfident - 26/09/2009 03:24:51 PM 1951 Views
A lie by Elaida? - 27/09/2009 02:31:36 PM 2225 Views
Re: A lie by Elaida? - 27/09/2009 02:50:49 PM 1957 Views
Re: A lie by Elaida? - 27/09/2009 03:01:06 PM 1895 Views
I don't think it covers things like that - 27/09/2009 04:10:05 PM 1931 Views
She believes what she said *NM* - 28/09/2009 04:51:52 AM 1156 Views
Remember, perspective. - 29/09/2009 12:14:59 AM 1837 Views
It might well be true - 29/09/2009 12:38:20 AM 1962 Views
Well... that elicited quite a reaction. - 28/09/2009 06:25:52 AM 1769 Views
I had many of those same thoughts. - 28/09/2009 05:27:43 PM 2026 Views
Re: I had many of those same thoughts. - 28/09/2009 06:42:56 PM 1759 Views
Re: I had many of those same thoughts. - 28/09/2009 11:08:00 PM 1921 Views
I've just learned to skip any female POV's written by RJ - 29/09/2009 04:38:45 AM 1962 Views
Hmmm.... - 29/09/2009 05:30:44 AM 1991 Views
Re: Hmmm.... - 29/09/2009 06:26:17 AM 2014 Views
Ridiculous - 30/09/2009 12:34:07 AM 1837 Views
Very. - 30/09/2009 02:40:07 AM 1958 Views
Re: Hmmm.... - 30/09/2009 03:00:01 AM 1954 Views
Re: Hmmm.... - 30/09/2009 04:32:14 AM 2021 Views
Re: Hmmm.... - 01/10/2009 03:23:21 AM 1921 Views
Re: Hmmm.... - 01/10/2009 04:51:14 AM 1946 Views
Re: Hmmm.... - 03/10/2009 01:57:24 PM 2270 Views
That's Mesaana's purpose actually *NM* - 06/11/2009 07:03:12 AM 1126 Views
Elaida, Formidable? - 29/09/2009 11:48:04 PM 2110 Views
How do you figure? - 30/09/2009 12:15:47 AM 1748 Views
Aside from successfuly orchastrate the coup what has she done? - 30/09/2009 12:35:07 AM 1994 Views
Re: Aside from successfuly orchastrate the coup what has she done? - 30/09/2009 02:29:37 AM 1869 Views
Broke the Black Ajah's hold on the Amyrlin seat??????? - 30/09/2009 06:09:08 PM 1838 Views
Ignore *NM* - 30/09/2009 06:20:12 PM 1124 Views
Oh yeah, and... - 29/09/2009 04:22:57 AM 2148 Views
Egwene in this chapter... - 29/09/2009 05:04:35 AM 2066 Views
Re: Egwene in this chapter... - 29/09/2009 05:59:33 AM 2170 Views
Author thoughts - Audiobook versus reading - 29/09/2009 05:30:39 AM 1958 Views
Yes, I've felt very much the same *NM* - 29/09/2009 12:52:52 PM 1266 Views
A lot of that is the narrator - 29/09/2009 04:36:47 PM 2020 Views
The Dark One's Touch - 30/09/2009 06:21:24 PM 2073 Views
Good point! *NM* - 30/09/2009 06:26:51 PM 1186 Views
Re: The Dark One's Touch - 30/09/2009 06:44:53 PM 1847 Views
What about the person who has the ter'angreal dagger? - 30/09/2009 07:11:18 PM 1819 Views
Re: What about the person who has the ter'angreal dagger? - 30/09/2009 07:17:06 PM 1921 Views
The Irony of Elaida - 30/09/2009 11:10:08 PM 1971 Views
LOL, I agree. - 01/10/2009 02:47:18 AM 1930 Views

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