But you saw this coming, surely? She was hardly stable in KoD, and Tarna more than implied that Elaida was drinking too much.
Her downward spiral began way back when Alviaring made her choose her Seat over the Tower's unity.


Siuan did so too, IIRC, and that was based on Verin's report. Not as impressive as Niall, of course, who had less reliable sources to work with.

I dunno if this really serves the purpose of making Egwene more impressive/easier to support. Elaida was hardly easy to support before this.
Also, notice that this is from Egwene's PoV, and she is having such a violently negative reaction to what Elaida has become that it is quite likely that Elaida's firm command that servants come and clean the carpet sounded like a shriek to her.


But no one wants her to be Amyrlin because she is not being broken. They do admire that, and I don't find that surprising or unbelievable.

What is making her win though, is that she is bluntly pointing out what the Tower AS had only been thinking or whispering to close friends... Elaida has been a disaster, and the Tower is much worse than it should be under an even half-way competent Amyrlin.

Were we the ones who pulled down a sitting Amyrlin?

I don't really know what to say. What is your purpose here, Egwene? Are you saying you support Elaida's continued reign?
But she is saying that Elaida started it with her shady tactics in removing Siuan. Surely, in a fight, it matters who gave first offense?
Were we the ones who turned Warder against Warder?

I'll assume one of the sides was yours? The one that was leading an attack to rescue the Stilled Amyrlin and therefore initiated the hostilities?
We do not know that Siuan was stilled at that time.
More importantly, with no trial for the woman and a bunch of admitted nonsense being described as her crimes, why should the Greens and Blues have assumed that there was any legality to this deposition?
For all we know, there were vague worries of a Black Ajah coup, and in that, they would not have been far off the mark.
That Warders fought against Warders is totally Elaida's fault.

Keeping the Dragon's Rebirth a secret. And a load of other crap like helping Taim escape and being a Darkfriend.

And what containment was Siuan to do? He had scarcely begun to expand his power-base then, and was doing so under the tutelage and guidance of Siuan's trusted envoy!


Of course it is wrong! I fail to see how you ignore motive in your assessment of these actions.
Egwene was forced into a position where her death was a very possible finish to the story if the women who raised her fouled up. What she did is exactly what Rand did to Moiraine. He used the fact that she needed to stay close to him to blackmail her into an oath of obedience. And he was damn right to demand it because she was trying to make him dance to her tune, and the only person whose reputation and very life were at stake was him!
On the other hand, as far as Egwene knows, Elaida is demanding Oaths of obedience from everyone to clean up her own mess (Egwene knows nothing of Alviarin's role in breaking the Tower).
One was essentially self defense, against a bunch of women hell bent on pulling strings and staying in power no matter who lost their life. The other is an obvious ploy to gain complete control over all your subjects so all your wishes are fulfilled.
There's nothing incongruous in Egwene's anger at Elaida's proposed Oath.

Yeah, me too. Since the last Egwene debate, I think.