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Re: He drew graphs! fionwe1987 Send a noteboard - 30/10/2012 01:57:05 PM


As I said before, if you are absolutely convinced of Jordans infallability, I guess there is nothing I can say.

On these issues? Yes, I am. His assistant even confirmed this, so this isn't some one off mistake.
However, the fact that he drew a graph which he used as a tool for placing less important Aes Sedai is not proof that he obeyed the statistics he laid out in that quote at all times. He has made mistakes, from time to time.

No, the graph wasn't just for Aes Sedai. It was for channelers in general. The Aes Sedai got the strength list with 21 levels.
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Ch2 : Pevara & Androl and channeling implications Sidious - 24/10/2012 06:40:47 PM 3071 Views
Did Perva actually initiate the link or was it Androl? *NM* TheCrownless - 24/10/2012 07:02:15 PM 838 Views
Androl did. *NM* Great Lord of Chaos - 25/10/2012 05:10:31 AM 1052 Views
But didn't Nynaeve do it first at the cleansing? TheCrownless - 25/10/2012 12:43:15 PM 1338 Views
Pevara was thinking on very sketchy information. Great Lord of Chaos - 25/10/2012 08:56:20 PM 1372 Views
did he start the link? or just take it? nigelgoboom - 27/10/2012 07:33:49 AM 987 Views
I think it's slightly off darius_sedai - 28/10/2012 04:21:05 PM 1236 Views
Re: Ch2 : Pevara & Androl and channeling implications Great Lord of Chaos - 25/10/2012 05:13:43 AM 1551 Views
Re: Ch2 : Pevara & Androl and channeling implications Sidious - 25/10/2012 04:23:20 PM 1285 Views
Re: Ch2 : Pevara & Androl and channeling implications DomA - 25/10/2012 09:52:03 PM 1336 Views
Travelling Tor - 25/10/2012 08:56:41 AM 1329 Views
Yes that's a pet theory of mine Sidious - 25/10/2012 04:21:53 PM 1338 Views
Re: Yes that's a pet theory of mine Tor - 25/10/2012 06:12:21 PM 1315 Views
Re: Yes that's a pet theory of mine DomA - 25/10/2012 08:50:15 PM 1189 Views
Re: Yes that's a pet theory of mine Tor - 25/10/2012 09:45:26 PM 1346 Views
Weren't there 150 or so at Maradon? *NM* Voscaia Sedai - 26/10/2012 03:29:53 PM 747 Views
Re: Yes that's a pet theory of mine DomA - 26/10/2012 08:49:58 PM 1408 Views
Perhaps, but if no on in the AoL could do it when mixed circles were common darius_sedai - 28/10/2012 04:22:20 PM 1105 Views
How strong Pevara is... fionwe1987 - 25/10/2012 07:08:26 PM 1462 Views
I'm pretty sure Moiraine is closer to 30... DREWRULESWOT! - 25/10/2012 07:41:37 PM 1115 Views
Agreed Sidious - 25/10/2012 08:37:24 PM 1254 Views
So... the old story of ignore the bell curve, eh? fionwe1987 - 26/10/2012 01:40:49 AM 1210 Views
No, I fully respect the bell curve Sidious - 26/10/2012 01:51:34 PM 1243 Views
That was disproved long ago... fionwe1987 - 26/10/2012 01:36:24 AM 1259 Views
But Moiraine isn't 'exceptionally strong' DREWRULESWOT! - 26/10/2012 05:16:10 AM 1263 Views
Not particularly strong evidence for that last. Great Lord of Chaos - 26/10/2012 05:36:54 AM 1271 Views
But we know that it takes significantly more strength to maintain multiple weaves DREWRULESWOT! - 26/10/2012 08:14:58 AM 1197 Views
Not true darius_sedai - 27/10/2012 09:15:51 PM 1181 Views
Not accurate darius_sedai - 27/10/2012 09:31:05 PM 1126 Views
The Bell Curve explained... Shannow - 26/10/2012 10:27:34 AM 1196 Views
Re: The Bell Curve explained... Tor - 26/10/2012 11:40:04 AM 1180 Views
Re: The Bell Curve explained... Shannow - 26/10/2012 12:32:01 PM 1098 Views
Re: The Bell Curve explained... Tor - 26/10/2012 12:48:51 PM 1242 Views
Re: The Bell Curve explained... Shannow - 26/10/2012 01:07:39 PM 1206 Views
Re: The Bell Curve explained... Tor - 26/10/2012 01:18:32 PM 1317 Views
Re: The Bell Curve explained... Shannow - 26/10/2012 01:57:18 PM 1273 Views
Re: The Bell Curve explained... Tor - 28/10/2012 02:07:39 PM 1104 Views
Yet Sharina, Nynaeve etc exist, thus the BC is the same darius_sedai - 27/10/2012 09:39:58 PM 1384 Views
The curve is OBVIOUSLY the same... fionwe1987 - 28/10/2012 01:50:37 AM 1048 Views
Re: The curve is OBVIOUSLY the same... Tor - 28/10/2012 02:01:59 PM 1130 Views
You need to go read RJ's quotes: fionwe1987 - 28/10/2012 02:41:49 PM 1225 Views
Re: You need to go read RJ's quotes: Tor - 28/10/2012 05:39:12 PM 1064 Views
I need to come and save you from blatant fallacies being spouted by the loonies. Shannow - 28/10/2012 05:56:21 PM 1070 Views
Re: I need to come and save you from blatant fallacies being spouted by the loonies. Tor - 28/10/2012 07:44:02 PM 1178 Views
This is like watching a train-wreck. fionwe1987 - 29/10/2012 02:58:51 AM 1060 Views
Re: This is like watching a train-wreck. DomA - 29/10/2012 01:10:35 PM 1267 Views
So what's your conclusion? Shannow - 29/10/2012 02:14:33 PM 1046 Views
His conclusion is that RJ was right about the books he wrote... fionwe1987 - 29/10/2012 02:19:59 PM 1160 Views
Pretty much... DomA - 30/10/2012 12:57:41 AM 1241 Views
you do realize that is an impossible question to answer from the books right? darius_sedai - 29/10/2012 07:50:02 PM 1200 Views
Excellent points... fionwe1987 - 29/10/2012 02:16:39 PM 1026 Views
Re: Excellent points... Tor - 29/10/2012 02:47:30 PM 1214 Views
You seem confused. fionwe1987 - 29/10/2012 03:22:47 PM 1017 Views
Re: You seem confused. Tor - 29/10/2012 03:41:48 PM 1055 Views
I think the point is that the AS didn't go force every woman in the area darius_sedai - 29/10/2012 07:57:59 PM 1008 Views
Re: You seem confused. fionwe1987 - 29/10/2012 08:23:22 PM 1224 Views
Re: You seem confused. Tor - 29/10/2012 08:57:11 PM 1160 Views
He drew graphs! fionwe1987 - 30/10/2012 12:49:09 AM 1061 Views
Re: He drew graphs! Tor - 30/10/2012 07:43:54 AM 1181 Views
Re: He drew graphs! fionwe1987 - 30/10/2012 01:57:05 PM 1094 Views
Re: Excellent points... DomA - 30/10/2012 12:20:00 AM 1119 Views
Re: Excellent points... Tor - 30/10/2012 07:49:57 AM 1099 Views
Re: Excellent points... DomA - 30/10/2012 01:05:45 PM 1493 Views
Re: Excellent points... Tor - 30/10/2012 01:25:11 PM 1128 Views
Re: Excellent points... DomA - 30/10/2012 12:20:17 AM 1224 Views
AS recruiting is minimal darius_sedai - 28/10/2012 10:41:29 PM 1085 Views
Re: You need to go read RJ's quotes: fionwe1987 - 29/10/2012 02:23:27 AM 1070 Views
Re: You need to go read RJ's quotes: Tor - 29/10/2012 07:33:44 AM 1080 Views
Huh? fionwe1987 - 29/10/2012 02:26:27 PM 1130 Views
Re: Huh? Tor - 29/10/2012 02:42:07 PM 1036 Views
You don't seem to know what random means... fionwe1987 - 29/10/2012 03:25:57 PM 1071 Views
Re: You don't seem to know what random means... Tor - 29/10/2012 03:36:45 PM 1077 Views
Personally I just think that 1000 women being allowed to tag along is a drop darius_sedai - 29/10/2012 08:05:33 PM 1147 Views
Re: Personally I just think that 1000 women being allowed to tag along is a drop Tor - 29/10/2012 09:04:02 PM 1178 Views
Geography alone can do this darius_sedai - 30/10/2012 12:39:53 AM 1065 Views
Re: Geography alone can do this Tor - 30/10/2012 09:45:58 AM 1039 Views
Not really darius_sedai - 30/10/2012 02:49:05 PM 1023 Views
Here's why its not random... fionwe1987 - 30/10/2012 01:04:18 AM 1039 Views
Re: Here's why its not random... Tor - 30/10/2012 09:42:35 AM 1225 Views
Re: Here's why its not random... fionwe1987 - 30/10/2012 01:51:03 PM 1029 Views
Re: Here's why its not random... Tor - 30/10/2012 02:21:04 PM 1086 Views
YEah, there's no point debating this... fionwe1987 - 30/10/2012 02:46:39 PM 1092 Views
Genetics plays a role darius_sedai - 30/10/2012 03:03:41 PM 1241 Views
Re: You don't seem to know what random means... fionwe1987 - 29/10/2012 08:22:40 PM 1002 Views
Re: You don't seem to know what random means... Tor - 29/10/2012 09:06:08 PM 1120 Views
Why must there be a mechanism? fionwe1987 - 30/10/2012 01:06:29 AM 1037 Views
Re: Why must there be a mechanism? Tor - 30/10/2012 09:48:16 AM 1027 Views
Nope... fionwe1987 - 30/10/2012 01:43:56 PM 1196 Views
Re: Nope... Tor - 30/10/2012 02:34:51 PM 1045 Views
Oh my... fionwe1987 - 30/10/2012 02:50:12 PM 1082 Views
Thought experment time! Hurrah! Tor - 30/10/2012 03:27:01 PM 1039 Views
But it is still possible in your example to get wildly varied results darius_sedai - 30/10/2012 03:30:59 PM 984 Views
Re: But it is still possible in your example to get wildly varied results Tor - 30/10/2012 03:36:03 PM 1060 Views
LOL darius_sedai - 30/10/2012 04:49:06 PM 1654 Views
Re: Yet Sharina, Nynaeve etc exist, thus the BC is the same Tor - 28/10/2012 01:39:55 PM 1076 Views
The point is there are still people being born in the highest strength categories darius_sedai - 28/10/2012 04:18:55 PM 1122 Views
Re: The point is there are still people being born in the highest strength categories Tor - 28/10/2012 05:21:44 PM 1058 Views
The curve hasn't shifted! fionwe1987 - 28/10/2012 05:39:42 PM 1207 Views
The fact is, Moiraine is not half as strong as Lanfear, hence she is below average strength. Shannow - 28/10/2012 06:02:04 PM 1100 Views
Re: The fact is, Moiraine is not half as strong as Lanfear, hence she is below average strength. Tor - 28/10/2012 07:27:26 PM 1054 Views
There is not a single quote in the series that states Moiraine is less than half the strength darius_sedai - 28/10/2012 10:31:28 PM 1110 Views
How is this fact? fionwe1987 - 29/10/2012 02:59:49 AM 1179 Views
Re: How is this fact? Sidious - 29/10/2012 07:04:15 PM 1085 Views
Not so darius_sedai - 29/10/2012 08:09:29 PM 1057 Views
Re: Not so Sidious - 29/10/2012 08:43:16 PM 1167 Views
Sure it is darius_sedai - 30/10/2012 01:43:39 AM 1105 Views
Explain Elza-Merise-Cadsuane then... fionwe1987 - 29/10/2012 08:20:14 PM 1068 Views
Re: Explain Elza-Merise-Cadsuane then... Sidious - 29/10/2012 08:38:11 PM 1169 Views
Are you blind man? fionwe1987 - 30/10/2012 01:12:26 AM 1086 Views
Re: Are you blind man? Sidious - 30/10/2012 09:23:37 AM 1111 Views
Cadsuane is just below Egwene... fionwe1987 - 30/10/2012 01:37:54 PM 1049 Views
Your strength scores don't square with the Pevara quote darius_sedai - 30/10/2012 03:15:22 PM 1051 Views
Re: The curve hasn't shifted! Tor - 28/10/2012 07:36:36 PM 1077 Views
Well the most obvious thing is that RJ was quoted on the subject any number of times darius_sedai - 28/10/2012 11:34:18 PM 1140 Views
On Raw strength scores I think you are pretty inline with my thinking darius_sedai - 27/10/2012 09:37:25 PM 1200 Views
And the facing a Foresaken comment is out of context anyway... fionwe1987 - 28/10/2012 01:56:12 AM 1201 Views
Excellent point on raw v. Effective strength *NM* darius_sedai - 28/10/2012 04:13:21 PM 745 Views
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