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Oh my... fionwe1987 Send a noteboard - 30/10/2012 02:50:12 PM
You're wrong. A self-selected sample is a non-random sample, even if you can't pinpoint a specific way in which self-selection might screw the results. The entire point of random sampling is that you can't determine the exact mechanism by which self selection biases the results. If you don't understand this, then there's really no point discussing this.
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Ch2 : Pevara & Androl and channeling implications Sidious - 24/10/2012 06:40:47 PM 2874 Views
Did Perva actually initiate the link or was it Androl? *NM* TheCrownless - 24/10/2012 07:02:15 PM 732 Views
Androl did. *NM* Great Lord of Chaos - 25/10/2012 05:10:31 AM 990 Views
But didn't Nynaeve do it first at the cleansing? TheCrownless - 25/10/2012 12:43:15 PM 1210 Views
Pevara was thinking on very sketchy information. Great Lord of Chaos - 25/10/2012 08:56:20 PM 1147 Views
did he start the link? or just take it? nigelgoboom - 27/10/2012 07:33:49 AM 853 Views
I think it's slightly off darius_sedai - 28/10/2012 04:21:05 PM 1132 Views
Re: Ch2 : Pevara & Androl and channeling implications Great Lord of Chaos - 25/10/2012 05:13:43 AM 1366 Views
Re: Ch2 : Pevara & Androl and channeling implications Sidious - 25/10/2012 04:23:20 PM 1178 Views
Re: Ch2 : Pevara & Androl and channeling implications DomA - 25/10/2012 09:52:03 PM 1222 Views
Travelling Tor - 25/10/2012 08:56:41 AM 1218 Views
Yes that's a pet theory of mine Sidious - 25/10/2012 04:21:53 PM 1238 Views
Re: Yes that's a pet theory of mine Tor - 25/10/2012 06:12:21 PM 1119 Views
Re: Yes that's a pet theory of mine DomA - 25/10/2012 08:50:15 PM 1071 Views
Re: Yes that's a pet theory of mine Tor - 25/10/2012 09:45:26 PM 1158 Views
Weren't there 150 or so at Maradon? *NM* Voscaia Sedai - 26/10/2012 03:29:53 PM 645 Views
Re: Yes that's a pet theory of mine DomA - 26/10/2012 08:49:58 PM 1271 Views
Perhaps, but if no on in the AoL could do it when mixed circles were common darius_sedai - 28/10/2012 04:22:20 PM 949 Views
How strong Pevara is... fionwe1987 - 25/10/2012 07:08:26 PM 1298 Views
I'm pretty sure Moiraine is closer to 30... DREWRULESWOT! - 25/10/2012 07:41:37 PM 1016 Views
Agreed Sidious - 25/10/2012 08:37:24 PM 1103 Views
So... the old story of ignore the bell curve, eh? fionwe1987 - 26/10/2012 01:40:49 AM 1073 Views
No, I fully respect the bell curve Sidious - 26/10/2012 01:51:34 PM 1126 Views
That was disproved long ago... fionwe1987 - 26/10/2012 01:36:24 AM 1084 Views
But Moiraine isn't 'exceptionally strong' DREWRULESWOT! - 26/10/2012 05:16:10 AM 1129 Views
Not particularly strong evidence for that last. Great Lord of Chaos - 26/10/2012 05:36:54 AM 1083 Views
But we know that it takes significantly more strength to maintain multiple weaves DREWRULESWOT! - 26/10/2012 08:14:58 AM 991 Views
Not true darius_sedai - 27/10/2012 09:15:51 PM 1006 Views
Not accurate darius_sedai - 27/10/2012 09:31:05 PM 996 Views
The Bell Curve explained... Shannow - 26/10/2012 10:27:34 AM 1057 Views
Re: The Bell Curve explained... Tor - 26/10/2012 11:40:04 AM 1053 Views
Re: The Bell Curve explained... Shannow - 26/10/2012 12:32:01 PM 980 Views
Re: The Bell Curve explained... Tor - 26/10/2012 12:48:51 PM 1083 Views
Re: The Bell Curve explained... Shannow - 26/10/2012 01:07:39 PM 1067 Views
Re: The Bell Curve explained... Tor - 26/10/2012 01:18:32 PM 1088 Views
Re: The Bell Curve explained... Shannow - 26/10/2012 01:57:18 PM 1137 Views
Re: The Bell Curve explained... Tor - 28/10/2012 02:07:39 PM 817 Views
Yet Sharina, Nynaeve etc exist, thus the BC is the same darius_sedai - 27/10/2012 09:39:58 PM 1164 Views
The curve is OBVIOUSLY the same... fionwe1987 - 28/10/2012 01:50:37 AM 937 Views
Re: The curve is OBVIOUSLY the same... Tor - 28/10/2012 02:01:59 PM 1022 Views
You need to go read RJ's quotes: fionwe1987 - 28/10/2012 02:41:49 PM 1040 Views
Re: You need to go read RJ's quotes: Tor - 28/10/2012 05:39:12 PM 944 Views
I need to come and save you from blatant fallacies being spouted by the loonies. Shannow - 28/10/2012 05:56:21 PM 959 Views
Re: I need to come and save you from blatant fallacies being spouted by the loonies. Tor - 28/10/2012 07:44:02 PM 959 Views
This is like watching a train-wreck. fionwe1987 - 29/10/2012 02:58:51 AM 916 Views
Re: This is like watching a train-wreck. DomA - 29/10/2012 01:10:35 PM 1124 Views
So what's your conclusion? Shannow - 29/10/2012 02:14:33 PM 903 Views
His conclusion is that RJ was right about the books he wrote... fionwe1987 - 29/10/2012 02:19:59 PM 1041 Views
Pretty much... DomA - 30/10/2012 12:57:41 AM 1129 Views
you do realize that is an impossible question to answer from the books right? darius_sedai - 29/10/2012 07:50:02 PM 1022 Views
Excellent points... fionwe1987 - 29/10/2012 02:16:39 PM 887 Views
Re: Excellent points... Tor - 29/10/2012 02:47:30 PM 1020 Views
You seem confused. fionwe1987 - 29/10/2012 03:22:47 PM 898 Views
Re: You seem confused. Tor - 29/10/2012 03:41:48 PM 950 Views
I think the point is that the AS didn't go force every woman in the area darius_sedai - 29/10/2012 07:57:59 PM 892 Views
Re: You seem confused. fionwe1987 - 29/10/2012 08:23:22 PM 1032 Views
Re: You seem confused. Tor - 29/10/2012 08:57:11 PM 1038 Views
He drew graphs! fionwe1987 - 30/10/2012 12:49:09 AM 922 Views
Re: He drew graphs! Tor - 30/10/2012 07:43:54 AM 973 Views
Re: He drew graphs! fionwe1987 - 30/10/2012 01:57:05 PM 942 Views
Re: Excellent points... DomA - 30/10/2012 12:20:00 AM 974 Views
Re: Excellent points... Tor - 30/10/2012 07:49:57 AM 986 Views
Re: Excellent points... DomA - 30/10/2012 01:05:45 PM 1321 Views
Re: Excellent points... Tor - 30/10/2012 01:25:11 PM 1003 Views
Re: Excellent points... DomA - 30/10/2012 12:20:17 AM 1065 Views
AS recruiting is minimal darius_sedai - 28/10/2012 10:41:29 PM 947 Views
Re: You need to go read RJ's quotes: fionwe1987 - 29/10/2012 02:23:27 AM 952 Views
Re: You need to go read RJ's quotes: Tor - 29/10/2012 07:33:44 AM 942 Views
Huh? fionwe1987 - 29/10/2012 02:26:27 PM 959 Views
Re: Huh? Tor - 29/10/2012 02:42:07 PM 927 Views
You don't seem to know what random means... fionwe1987 - 29/10/2012 03:25:57 PM 939 Views
Re: You don't seem to know what random means... Tor - 29/10/2012 03:36:45 PM 969 Views
Personally I just think that 1000 women being allowed to tag along is a drop darius_sedai - 29/10/2012 08:05:33 PM 988 Views
Re: Personally I just think that 1000 women being allowed to tag along is a drop Tor - 29/10/2012 09:04:02 PM 1005 Views
Geography alone can do this darius_sedai - 30/10/2012 12:39:53 AM 944 Views
Re: Geography alone can do this Tor - 30/10/2012 09:45:58 AM 930 Views
Not really darius_sedai - 30/10/2012 02:49:05 PM 921 Views
Here's why its not random... fionwe1987 - 30/10/2012 01:04:18 AM 917 Views
Re: Here's why its not random... Tor - 30/10/2012 09:42:35 AM 1056 Views
Re: Here's why its not random... fionwe1987 - 30/10/2012 01:51:03 PM 915 Views
Re: Here's why its not random... Tor - 30/10/2012 02:21:04 PM 954 Views
YEah, there's no point debating this... fionwe1987 - 30/10/2012 02:46:39 PM 913 Views
Genetics plays a role darius_sedai - 30/10/2012 03:03:41 PM 1065 Views
Re: You don't seem to know what random means... fionwe1987 - 29/10/2012 08:22:40 PM 904 Views
Re: You don't seem to know what random means... Tor - 29/10/2012 09:06:08 PM 947 Views
Why must there be a mechanism? fionwe1987 - 30/10/2012 01:06:29 AM 929 Views
Re: Why must there be a mechanism? Tor - 30/10/2012 09:48:16 AM 849 Views
Nope... fionwe1987 - 30/10/2012 01:43:56 PM 1063 Views
Re: Nope... Tor - 30/10/2012 02:34:51 PM 900 Views
Oh my... fionwe1987 - 30/10/2012 02:50:12 PM 975 Views
Thought experment time! Hurrah! Tor - 30/10/2012 03:27:01 PM 926 Views
But it is still possible in your example to get wildly varied results darius_sedai - 30/10/2012 03:30:59 PM 871 Views
Re: But it is still possible in your example to get wildly varied results Tor - 30/10/2012 03:36:03 PM 959 Views
LOL darius_sedai - 30/10/2012 04:49:06 PM 1491 Views
Re: Yet Sharina, Nynaeve etc exist, thus the BC is the same Tor - 28/10/2012 01:39:55 PM 918 Views
The point is there are still people being born in the highest strength categories darius_sedai - 28/10/2012 04:18:55 PM 966 Views
Re: The point is there are still people being born in the highest strength categories Tor - 28/10/2012 05:21:44 PM 952 Views
The curve hasn't shifted! fionwe1987 - 28/10/2012 05:39:42 PM 1030 Views
The fact is, Moiraine is not half as strong as Lanfear, hence she is below average strength. Shannow - 28/10/2012 06:02:04 PM 993 Views
Re: The fact is, Moiraine is not half as strong as Lanfear, hence she is below average strength. Tor - 28/10/2012 07:27:26 PM 886 Views
There is not a single quote in the series that states Moiraine is less than half the strength darius_sedai - 28/10/2012 10:31:28 PM 941 Views
How is this fact? fionwe1987 - 29/10/2012 02:59:49 AM 990 Views
Re: How is this fact? Sidious - 29/10/2012 07:04:15 PM 972 Views
Not so darius_sedai - 29/10/2012 08:09:29 PM 927 Views
Re: Not so Sidious - 29/10/2012 08:43:16 PM 1005 Views
Sure it is darius_sedai - 30/10/2012 01:43:39 AM 901 Views
Explain Elza-Merise-Cadsuane then... fionwe1987 - 29/10/2012 08:20:14 PM 929 Views
Re: Explain Elza-Merise-Cadsuane then... Sidious - 29/10/2012 08:38:11 PM 959 Views
Are you blind man? fionwe1987 - 30/10/2012 01:12:26 AM 971 Views
Re: Are you blind man? Sidious - 30/10/2012 09:23:37 AM 1007 Views
Cadsuane is just below Egwene... fionwe1987 - 30/10/2012 01:37:54 PM 937 Views
Your strength scores don't square with the Pevara quote darius_sedai - 30/10/2012 03:15:22 PM 943 Views
Re: The curve hasn't shifted! Tor - 28/10/2012 07:36:36 PM 963 Views
Well the most obvious thing is that RJ was quoted on the subject any number of times darius_sedai - 28/10/2012 11:34:18 PM 970 Views
On Raw strength scores I think you are pretty inline with my thinking darius_sedai - 27/10/2012 09:37:25 PM 1106 Views
And the facing a Foresaken comment is out of context anyway... fionwe1987 - 28/10/2012 01:56:12 AM 1059 Views
Excellent point on raw v. Effective strength *NM* darius_sedai - 28/10/2012 04:13:21 PM 643 Views
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