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Like I said ... Could be darius_sedai Send a noteboard - 08/12/2012 02:33:43 AM
Regarding the Foresaken meeting where they're worried about him... what makes you think someone of, say, Egwene's strength with LTT's memories popping up randomly is NOT a danger?

Remember that Demandred apparently would launch himself at Rand only if he had a sa'angreal. I think when you reach the upper skill levels the Foresaken are at, you need significant strength gaps to ensure success. Anything less, and there's too much chance the battle can go either way, which is why they're worried about Rand. The Foresaken need certainty of victory while fighting against him, they're not ready to face him otherwise.


I've been saying forever that skill is far more important with these measures ... Unless there is a significant strength difference. Hard to say with Egwene level. To me someone at her level would need to be supremely skilled to have any shot of survival against the Forsaken strength and skill combination. I think the weakest effective level Rand could be is Moghedien for the Forsaken to worry about him (if they assume he has all of LTTs skill). Given some of Rands recent pondering a about AoL AS there were clearly individuals with a good deal more skill than he possessed ... He seems rather reverent when remembering the dude who made Ter'angreal ... Perhaps someone of that skill level and Egwene effective strength would stand a chance. PERHAPS.
Domani Drag Queen in the White Tower ... Aran'gar watch out!
This message last edited by darius_sedai on 08/12/2012 at 02:34:10 AM
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I really hate to bring up strength in the OP, but thankfully it doesn't regard Egwene or any women. - 04/12/2012 06:01:45 AM 1856 Views
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that was not clear *NM* - 07/12/2012 07:43:54 PM 599 Views
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whatever ... didn't think it was necessary ... and with that I'm done - 11/12/2012 09:16:03 PM 868 Views
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About Rand's strength... an important quote is being ignored: - 08/12/2012 12:37:38 AM 1101 Views
Perhaps - 08/12/2012 01:01:21 AM 914 Views
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Re: I don't think the Forsaken are good examples - 28/12/2012 08:08:21 PM 835 Views
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Re: And they had plenty of spies around him and clearly knew that he managed - 08/12/2012 05:34:54 AM 966 Views
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Oops, double post. *NM* - 08/12/2012 09:34:36 AM 585 Views
Re: About Rand's strength... an important quote is being ignored: - 11/12/2012 11:36:51 PM 950 Views
Re: Rand v Aginor - 16/12/2012 01:46:08 PM 900 Views
Not a bad theory and I've read it before - 16/12/2012 07:42:31 PM 850 Views

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