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Re: Probably fionwe1987 Send a noteboard - 09/12/2012 07:51:59 PM

Although I'd say knowledge and skill amount to the same thing here.

Of course they don't. Skill is about how well you can do weaves you know. Knowledge is about what weaves you do know. Hardly the same thing.
The point being Egwene has enough of a strength and skill combination to not be easy meat, but in the end the stronger, more experienced Channeler is going to win out.

Every time? I don't think so. It may be 60-40 against Egwene. But I don't think those kind of strength differences are enough to ensure victory for either side. There's also the fact that Egwene is likely one of the only people we know who's got great strength in all five Powers. No idea how that alters the effect of the strength difference, but it certainly does to some extent.

The only way someone like Egwene poses a threat to one of the Forsaken (angreal etc aside) is is they have significantly more skill/knowledge to fall back on.

Nope. In that case, all Demandred needs is an angreal. He'd have enough of an advantage over Rand in that case. But he needs a sa'angreal, apparently.

I think Cadsuane level could be a threat with enough skill, hard to say if Moiraine's level could stand a chance though. I'm inclined to say not against someone with the skill of the Forsaken, but against someone like Alivia probably.

I think Moiriane level is at the border of when you can be a threat. Such a person would need more than just Foresaken-level skill. They would need surprise, cunning and better battle skills. Below that strength level, I'm sure only pure surprise can win the day.
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I really hate to bring up strength in the OP, but thankfully it doesn't regard Egwene or any women. DREWRULESWOT! - 04/12/2012 06:01:45 AM 1855 Views
My thoughts Sidious - 04/12/2012 07:15:44 AM 1276 Views
90 is REALLY high DREWRULESWOT! - 04/12/2012 07:25:15 AM 1243 Views
Couple of things ... **reminder that this is a lot of speculation** darius_sedai - 04/12/2012 04:29:50 PM 1219 Views
Narishma is definitely stronger, you're right. DREWRULESWOT! - 07/12/2012 03:00:53 AM 1126 Views
He was stronger than Aginor in order to channel the power of the Eye darius_sedai - 07/12/2012 03:00:10 PM 1124 Views
No I don't think so Sidious - 07/12/2012 04:13:48 PM 1011 Views
I'd say more than 80 darius_sedai - 07/12/2012 07:07:32 PM 961 Views
81 then Sidious - 07/12/2012 08:11:34 PM 892 Views
and that's just YOUR theory Sidius darius_sedai - 07/12/2012 09:13:42 PM 959 Views
Re: and that's just YOUR theory Sidius Sidious - 07/12/2012 10:14:53 PM 983 Views
there were more like MILLIONS of Forsaken during these times darius_sedai - 07/12/2012 10:30:34 PM 971 Views
Re: and that's just YOUR theory Sidius RugbyPlayingAshaman - 28/12/2012 08:44:51 PM 800 Views
Aginors defeat could be a result of multiple factors. So can Ishmaels Onarishma - 07/12/2012 01:24:18 PM 1026 Views
Regardless, Rand was clearly in the same strength category when Aginor and he faced off darius_sedai - 07/12/2012 03:03:04 PM 1017 Views
I disagree. Onarishma - 07/12/2012 06:55:43 PM 913 Views
Aginor burned out trying to use the Eye in the real world darius_sedai - 07/12/2012 07:12:44 PM 959 Views
Re: Aginor burned out trying to use the Eye in the real world Onarishma - 07/12/2012 07:51:37 PM 923 Views
he faced Asmodean strength for strength before Rahvin darius_sedai - 07/12/2012 09:23:42 PM 1018 Views
Just to be a bitch Sidious - 07/12/2012 10:17:11 PM 859 Views
you don't actually have to tell us all you are a bitch darius_sedai - 07/12/2012 10:36:25 PM 1007 Views
*NM* Sidious - 08/12/2012 06:22:49 AM 840 Views
He didn't face Asmodean he chased him and wrestled him over a sa'angreal. Onarishma - 10/12/2012 11:16:18 PM 1058 Views
Asmo hurled plenty of stuff at Rand during the "Chase" it wasnt all that much different darius_sedai - 11/12/2012 03:16:36 AM 913 Views
I disagree with your plenty cause no one was TRYING to crush him. *NM* Onarishma - 11/12/2012 07:13:12 PM 548 Views
as I said before ... your interpretations are yours to have ... as are mine. *NM* darius_sedai - 11/12/2012 09:16:36 PM 465 Views
think youre misjudgjng the benefits of the link. they dont have to add up to 90. Onarishma - 07/12/2012 12:34:59 PM 964 Views
There is also no why to tell if Flinn hit Demandred with all the strength available to him either darius_sedai - 07/12/2012 03:05:38 PM 940 Views
the "circle" was stronger but the individuals weren't *NM* Onarishma - 07/12/2012 06:58:38 PM 575 Views
that's what I just said *NM* darius_sedai - 07/12/2012 07:23:34 PM 510 Views
that was not clear *NM* Onarishma - 07/12/2012 07:43:54 PM 597 Views
*shrug* darius_sedai - 07/12/2012 09:25:00 PM 843 Views
Re: *shrug* Onarishma - 10/12/2012 11:27:42 PM 949 Views
If I had said the individuals in the circle added to Dmandreds strength perhaps darius_sedai - 11/12/2012 03:28:23 AM 983 Views
in the context of this discussion you did not distinguish between the effective strength and Onarishma - 11/12/2012 07:10:48 PM 888 Views
whatever ... didn't think it was necessary ... and with that I'm done darius_sedai - 11/12/2012 09:16:03 PM 866 Views
Onarishma - 17/12/2012 11:22:55 PM 1166 Views
About Rand's strength... an important quote is being ignored: fionwe1987 - 08/12/2012 12:37:38 AM 1099 Views
Perhaps darius_sedai - 08/12/2012 01:01:21 AM 912 Views
Re: Perhaps fionwe1987 - 08/12/2012 02:06:39 AM 975 Views
Like I said ... Could be darius_sedai - 08/12/2012 02:33:43 AM 960 Views
I disagree... fionwe1987 - 08/12/2012 04:53:09 AM 898 Views
Re: I disagree... darius_sedai - 08/12/2012 05:20:08 AM 843 Views
I disagree again! fionwe1987 - 08/12/2012 05:49:15 AM 920 Views
Probably darius_sedai - 08/12/2012 02:46:15 PM 951 Views
Re: Probably fionwe1987 - 09/12/2012 07:51:59 PM 964 Views
Not really darius_sedai - 09/12/2012 10:13:07 PM 890 Views
Re: Not really fionwe1987 - 10/12/2012 01:05:54 AM 903 Views
Re: Not really darius_sedai - 13/12/2012 03:58:48 PM 988 Views
I don't think the Forsaken are good examples Sidious - 08/12/2012 06:18:45 AM 960 Views
We're essentially saying the same thing now darius_sedai - 08/12/2012 02:37:17 PM 911 Views
Re: I don't think the Forsaken are good examples RugbyPlayingAshaman - 28/12/2012 08:08:21 PM 833 Views
Always thought the forsaken didn't really know much about Rand TheCrownless - 08/12/2012 02:38:08 AM 980 Views
And they had plenty of spies around him and clearly knew that he managed darius_sedai - 08/12/2012 02:43:15 AM 908 Views
Re: And they had plenty of spies around him and clearly knew that he managed TheCrownless - 08/12/2012 05:34:54 AM 966 Views
Who can say. Graendal wraps them so deep in compulsion that she can dig darius_sedai - 08/12/2012 05:42:39 AM 948 Views
I don't think they could have had a clear idea of his strength eary in the series... Narg - 08/12/2012 09:34:36 AM 1072 Views
Re: I don't think they could have had a clear idea of his strength eary in the series... darius_sedai - 08/12/2012 02:54:08 PM 869 Views
Oops, double post. *NM* Narg - 08/12/2012 09:34:36 AM 584 Views
Re: About Rand's strength... an important quote is being ignored: Dunstan - 11/12/2012 11:36:51 PM 948 Views
Re: Rand v Aginor Watcher - 16/12/2012 01:46:08 PM 899 Views
Not a bad theory and I've read it before darius_sedai - 16/12/2012 07:42:31 PM 850 Views
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