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Re: I don't think the Forsaken are good examples RugbyPlayingAshaman Send a noteboard - 28/12/2012 08:08:21 PM
I don't really think that you can exceed the Forsaken in skill.


Only point is that we've seen the Forsaken outstripped in specific skills. We already know that the Windfinders have exceeded the best of the Age of Legends' Aes Sedai skills with altering the weather. We also know that while the current Age has Healers whose training is lesser than that of the Age of Legends' channelers, there are channelers such as Nynaeve who've done things the Forsaken considered impossible. While the Forsaken are better trained overall, I no longer think the Age of Legends had reached the pinnacle of what is possible in channeling. They reached a high point but I often compare them to Victorian Era people and Renaissance Era people - neither is at the apex of cultural achievement, and there are individuals of both that are exemplars of human ability.
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I really hate to bring up strength in the OP, but thankfully it doesn't regard Egwene or any women. - 04/12/2012 06:01:45 AM 1911 Views
My thoughts - 04/12/2012 07:15:44 AM 1321 Views
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81 then - 07/12/2012 08:11:34 PM 930 Views
and that's just YOUR theory Sidius - 07/12/2012 09:13:42 PM 1003 Views
Re: and that's just YOUR theory Sidius - 07/12/2012 10:14:53 PM 1046 Views
there were more like MILLIONS of Forsaken during these times - 07/12/2012 10:30:34 PM 1019 Views
Re: and that's just YOUR theory Sidius - 28/12/2012 08:44:51 PM 850 Views
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I disagree. - 07/12/2012 06:55:43 PM 967 Views
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Re: Aginor burned out trying to use the Eye in the real world - 07/12/2012 07:51:37 PM 976 Views
he faced Asmodean strength for strength before Rahvin - 07/12/2012 09:23:42 PM 1064 Views
Just to be a bitch - 07/12/2012 10:17:11 PM 900 Views
you don't actually have to tell us all you are a bitch - 07/12/2012 10:36:25 PM 1057 Views
*NM* - 08/12/2012 06:22:49 AM 897 Views
think youre misjudgjng the benefits of the link. they dont have to add up to 90. - 07/12/2012 12:34:59 PM 1010 Views
There is also no why to tell if Flinn hit Demandred with all the strength available to him either - 07/12/2012 03:05:38 PM 990 Views
the "circle" was stronger but the individuals weren't *NM* - 07/12/2012 06:58:38 PM 596 Views
that's what I just said *NM* - 07/12/2012 07:23:34 PM 532 Views
that was not clear *NM* - 07/12/2012 07:43:54 PM 622 Views
*shrug* - 07/12/2012 09:25:00 PM 894 Views
Re: *shrug* - 10/12/2012 11:27:42 PM 991 Views
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in the context of this discussion you did not distinguish between the effective strength and - 11/12/2012 07:10:48 PM 948 Views
whatever ... didn't think it was necessary ... and with that I'm done - 11/12/2012 09:16:03 PM 914 Views
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About Rand's strength... an important quote is being ignored: - 08/12/2012 12:37:38 AM 1143 Views
Perhaps - 08/12/2012 01:01:21 AM 964 Views
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Like I said ... Could be - 08/12/2012 02:33:43 AM 999 Views
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I don't think the Forsaken are good examples - 08/12/2012 06:18:45 AM 1021 Views
We're essentially saying the same thing now - 08/12/2012 02:37:17 PM 966 Views
Re: I don't think the Forsaken are good examples - 28/12/2012 08:08:21 PM 880 Views
Always thought the forsaken didn't really know much about Rand - 08/12/2012 02:38:08 AM 1032 Views
And they had plenty of spies around him and clearly knew that he managed - 08/12/2012 02:43:15 AM 949 Views
Re: And they had plenty of spies around him and clearly knew that he managed - 08/12/2012 05:34:54 AM 1018 Views
Who can say. Graendal wraps them so deep in compulsion that she can dig - 08/12/2012 05:42:39 AM 1005 Views
Oops, double post. *NM* - 08/12/2012 09:34:36 AM 605 Views
Re: About Rand's strength... an important quote is being ignored: - 11/12/2012 11:36:51 PM 999 Views
Re: Rand v Aginor - 16/12/2012 01:46:08 PM 953 Views
Not a bad theory and I've read it before - 16/12/2012 07:42:31 PM 896 Views

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