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Re: I don't think the Forsaken are good examples RugbyPlayingAshaman Send a noteboard - 28/12/2012 08:08:21 PM
I don't really think that you can exceed the Forsaken in skill.


Only point is that we've seen the Forsaken outstripped in specific skills. We already know that the Windfinders have exceeded the best of the Age of Legends' Aes Sedai skills with altering the weather. We also know that while the current Age has Healers whose training is lesser than that of the Age of Legends' channelers, there are channelers such as Nynaeve who've done things the Forsaken considered impossible. While the Forsaken are better trained overall, I no longer think the Age of Legends had reached the pinnacle of what is possible in channeling. They reached a high point but I often compare them to Victorian Era people and Renaissance Era people - neither is at the apex of cultural achievement, and there are individuals of both that are exemplars of human ability.
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I really hate to bring up strength in the OP, but thankfully it doesn't regard Egwene or any women. - 04/12/2012 06:01:45 AM 1942 Views
My thoughts - 04/12/2012 07:15:44 AM 1349 Views
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81 then - 07/12/2012 08:11:34 PM 964 Views
and that's just YOUR theory Sidius - 07/12/2012 09:13:42 PM 1024 Views
Re: and that's just YOUR theory Sidius - 07/12/2012 10:14:53 PM 1083 Views
there were more like MILLIONS of Forsaken during these times - 07/12/2012 10:30:34 PM 1054 Views
Re: and that's just YOUR theory Sidius - 28/12/2012 08:44:51 PM 887 Views
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Just to be a bitch - 07/12/2012 10:17:11 PM 929 Views
you don't actually have to tell us all you are a bitch - 07/12/2012 10:36:25 PM 1091 Views
*NM* - 08/12/2012 06:22:49 AM 922 Views
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the "circle" was stronger but the individuals weren't *NM* - 07/12/2012 06:58:38 PM 607 Views
that's what I just said *NM* - 07/12/2012 07:23:34 PM 545 Views
that was not clear *NM* - 07/12/2012 07:43:54 PM 641 Views
*shrug* - 07/12/2012 09:25:00 PM 925 Views
Re: *shrug* - 10/12/2012 11:27:42 PM 1018 Views
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in the context of this discussion you did not distinguish between the effective strength and - 11/12/2012 07:10:48 PM 977 Views
whatever ... didn't think it was necessary ... and with that I'm done - 11/12/2012 09:16:03 PM 942 Views
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About Rand's strength... an important quote is being ignored: - 08/12/2012 12:37:38 AM 1174 Views
Perhaps - 08/12/2012 01:01:21 AM 988 Views
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I don't think the Forsaken are good examples - 08/12/2012 06:18:45 AM 1044 Views
We're essentially saying the same thing now - 08/12/2012 02:37:17 PM 996 Views
Re: I don't think the Forsaken are good examples - 28/12/2012 08:08:21 PM 913 Views
Always thought the forsaken didn't really know much about Rand - 08/12/2012 02:38:08 AM 1066 Views
And they had plenty of spies around him and clearly knew that he managed - 08/12/2012 02:43:15 AM 971 Views
Re: And they had plenty of spies around him and clearly knew that he managed - 08/12/2012 05:34:54 AM 1050 Views
Who can say. Graendal wraps them so deep in compulsion that she can dig - 08/12/2012 05:42:39 AM 1036 Views
Oops, double post. *NM* - 08/12/2012 09:34:36 AM 616 Views
Re: About Rand's strength... an important quote is being ignored: - 11/12/2012 11:36:51 PM 1034 Views
Re: Rand v Aginor - 16/12/2012 01:46:08 PM 981 Views
Not a bad theory and I've read it before - 16/12/2012 07:42:31 PM 926 Views

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