The protagonists aren't impressive? Are you not about to jump into a paragraph praising Egwene? I don't read much mediocrity and failing in that description. Did you not claim, in your reaction to the book, that you were impressed by Egwene's change in attitude and her dedication to keeping the Tower together?

No, the protagonists are quite impressive. Well, Rand was impressive at one point, and I am confident he will be again, but overall, yes, the protagonists are impressive.



Because Elaida is a power obsessed control freak with a vindictive streak?



And the Rebel Aes Sedai themselves agreed that Elaida was the lawful Amyrlin.



If it weren't a crime, why bother accusing her of it?



For turning Warder against Warder? Yes. The first never ordered her Warder to fight another Warder, while the second did. Furthermore, there would be no fight if either side did not choose to participate, which means that they are both responsible.



If it was illegal, shouldn't they have convened the Hall to rectify the situation? You seem quite certain that Elaida would never have won in an open trial, after all.

Allow me to offer an example in turn. If my brother is arrested and imprisoned while he is innocent, and in return I bomb the police station, who is the murderer? The arresting officer?



And Elaida never saw anything regarding Galina's failure to contain Rand because she was in the Tower, yet you hold it against her anyway. Why should Siuan be spared? Double-standards much? Rand escaped Moiraine's guard, and when she caught back up to him, it was too late and he was already in control.



The entire point of the operation is to have Rand unleashed and without Tower strings. That is the opposite of containment. It is basically hoping the Wheel will keep him alive.



All of which is irrelevant to Egwene's accusation, and in no way argued by anything I have said.



She doesn't rationalise them because she is apparently oblivious to the entire thing. You rationalise them. You know what Egwene did was wrong, yet you cannot bring yourself to admit that Egwene isn't perfect. So much for liking realistic characters who are mediocre and full of failings.



Aes Sedai don't have the authority to invent a summons from the Hall of the Tower. Only the Hall of the Tower does. The women who issued the summons do not have the authority to give it. And besides, you know as well as I that she would have disobeyed if it came from Elaida's side (Elaida did summon everyone back to the Tower, didn't she?) so your defense is a laughable defense.

As for enforcing it, not a chance. If she didn't want to go, good luck to the Aes Sedai trying to take her from the Dragon Reborn and the Aiel Wise Ones. It would have been hilarious to see them try.

She had no choice to accept the summons because she recognised the authority of the Rebel Aes Sedai. But she chose to accept that authority.



Yep.



Given that she, in this very chapter, rants about him needing her guidance, I will assure you it does not. She's been under the delusion that she understood Rand from the beginning of the series. It's actually a funny mirror to the boys' own continued expression of their inability to understand woman. Just some humour in the details.



This is about you saying 'Egwene knows nothing of Alviarin's role in breaking the Tower.' What this sentence means is that the rightness or wrongness of the situation depends on its perception. Not a useful or valuable point, just something I noticed and tossed in there.



No, it does not. Life does not always work out the way you want it to, that's not justification to go around enslaving people. This is why Rand has to learn that he can't just terrify everybody into doing whatever he wants, as Cadsuane is trying to show him. This is why the victory of the Light is not all. Yours is the justification of Mordeth.



It's defense against a repeat of Alviarin. Alviarin is the Black Ajah. The Black Ajah are Darkfriends.



She also stated that failing to contain Rand is a terrible offense of Elaida's, so apparently her noble motives depend on who she's talking to. Did I mention hypocrisy somewhere in this thread?