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As I don't have the companion (doesn't really look like it provides what I was hoping for) - does Rand not have a power rating provided in the Companion?

Great work though by the way


As Sidious and Fionwe1987 both mentioned it's not directly stated in the Companion, but given the evidence in the series as well as the entry for Logain at ++2 it seems obvious. On the Index tab I have highlighted their Strength rating in a new column for "presumed strength" and added a few others too


Lol but it does say in the Logain section that Logain is one level below Rand.... So it is directly confirmed. There's very little assumption.


Thus Rand could technically be a ++2 and still be a little above Logain, enough room in that for "reasonable doubt" if this was criminal court


It also states that Logain is five levels above the strongest woman, and that sort of implies fixed levels. I don't think it's too much of a stretch to say that they were directly saying that Logain is ++2 and Rand is ++1.

The sub-levels most likely applies to where channelers can't actually see who's stronger without dueling. There are Aes Sedai who quote exactly that at some point in the series. It's likely that all the levels are rounded off.

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