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Some questions fionwe1987 Send a noteboard - 06/12/2015 12:28:46 AM

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This site has always been obsessed with power levels; it's amusing to see how many comments are on this post. I have never cared very much about power levels, and Dom said he never cared much either, but once we got our hands on the notes and saw all the detail on power rankings, making a list was just too tempting. So I guess the obsession rubbed off on me through Dom...

Glad you got pulled into this. While ultimately meaningless, I always found the OP strength thing a fun little debate to discuss. That said, maybe you can clarify some things we've been debating here:

1) We know a woman at level one more or less equals a man at level ++1, things like skill, etc. being equal. Does this carry on down the scale? Is there functional equivalency between levels 2 and ++2, 11 and 5, 66 and 60, and so on?

2) The female dexterity advantage: I believe there's no way RJ would have needlessly complicated things by making that advantage be on a scale, so that a stronger woman has a larger advantage than a weaker one. I think its a constant boost for all women. Did you see any hints that point to one or the other?

Thanks!

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Sortable, searchable file of Channelers darius_sedai - 28/11/2015 10:01:57 PM 3543 Views
Outstanding job Sidious - 29/11/2015 04:15:17 PM 1290 Views
Re: Outstanding job darius_sedai - 29/11/2015 06:53:40 PM 1264 Views
Very impressive. Well done. Cannoli - 29/11/2015 04:41:52 PM 1434 Views
Re: Very impressive. Well done. darius_sedai - 29/11/2015 06:54:02 PM 1300 Views
Quick Question gban007 - 30/11/2015 05:11:17 AM 1441 Views
Nope fionwe1987 - 30/11/2015 05:44:04 AM 1461 Views
They do say it Sidious - 30/11/2015 10:32:48 AM 1617 Views
I added Rand and Lews Therin to the ++1 Strength darius_sedai - 30/11/2015 03:21:00 PM 1293 Views
Re: I added Rand and Lews Therin to the ++1 Strength Sidious - 01/12/2015 08:02:01 AM 1411 Views
Well, it also states that there are gradations within each level too darius_sedai - 01/12/2015 04:26:29 PM 1440 Views
Well maybe Sidious - 02/12/2015 06:31:05 AM 1428 Views
Here's how I see it: fionwe1987 - 02/12/2015 08:34:54 AM 1444 Views
I agree darius_sedai - 02/12/2015 04:22:52 PM 1449 Views
Re: I agree DomA - 02/12/2015 05:14:50 PM 1613 Views
It's always been confusing darius_sedai - 02/12/2015 06:00:01 PM 1590 Views
Re: It's always been confusing DomA - 02/12/2015 07:27:11 PM 1549 Views
I wholeheartedly agree darius_sedai - 02/12/2015 08:07:39 PM 1362 Views
Re: Here's how I see it: DomA - 02/12/2015 04:46:54 PM 1608 Views
Morgase Sidious - 03/12/2015 04:37:47 AM 1486 Views
I agree with you on this darius_sedai - 03/12/2015 03:22:22 PM 1288 Views
Re: Morgase DomA - 03/12/2015 07:46:59 PM 1588 Views
I didn't realize he was being literal in that comment darius_sedai - 03/12/2015 09:29:52 PM 1413 Views
Re: I didn't realize he was being literal in that comment DomA - 04/12/2015 08:41:51 PM 1330 Views
I don't know about RJ's issues, but the White Tower's waste always seemed like a minor theme there Cannoli - 04/12/2015 09:05:08 PM 1385 Views
Yes the Aes Sedai are all about "the glory of being Aes Sedai" kind of like religious cults darius_sedai - 06/12/2015 07:47:34 PM 1301 Views
Too bad he also wrote in contingencies darius_sedai - 06/12/2015 07:45:26 PM 1262 Views
Re: Well maybe darius_sedai - 02/12/2015 03:52:49 PM 1536 Views
Re: Well maybe Sidious - 02/12/2015 04:42:37 PM 1594 Views
Probably darius_sedai - 02/12/2015 06:11:42 PM 1354 Views
Re: Probably DomA - 02/12/2015 07:38:50 PM 1467 Views
Indeed darius_sedai - 02/12/2015 08:21:07 PM 1331 Views
Re: Indeed Sidious - 03/12/2015 04:08:03 AM 1298 Views
close enough to not debate about it darius_sedai - 03/12/2015 03:47:55 PM 1308 Views
Re: close enough to not debate about it fionwe1987 - 03/12/2015 04:14:38 PM 1305 Views
I think you misunderstand what I'm saying darius_sedai - 03/12/2015 04:43:29 PM 1357 Views
Re: I think you misunderstand what I'm saying fionwe1987 - 03/12/2015 05:41:17 PM 1380 Views
um, no darius_sedai - 03/12/2015 09:24:31 PM 1297 Views
You two seem like Egwene's interchangeable defenders to me; it's weird to see you fighting. Cannoli - 04/12/2015 09:21:23 PM 1642 Views
That's on you... fionwe1987 - 04/12/2015 09:46:51 PM 1326 Views
We've been arguing on the forums for like 10 years darius_sedai - 06/12/2015 07:36:55 PM 1268 Views
It's Cannoli, Darius fionwe1987 - 06/12/2015 08:53:06 PM 1278 Views
LOL *NM* darius_sedai - 07/12/2015 03:26:40 AM 799 Views
Some points Sidious - 05/12/2015 11:14:30 AM 1290 Views
Re: close enough to not debate about it Sidious - 05/12/2015 11:29:44 AM 1347 Views
Re: I added Rand and Lews Therin to the ++1 Strength gban007 - 03/12/2015 07:22:15 AM 1256 Views
Great job fionwe1987 - 30/11/2015 05:45:27 AM 1306 Views
Re: Great job darius_sedai - 30/11/2015 03:22:09 PM 1302 Views
Made a few adjustments to add some presumed minimum/maximum levels *NM* darius_sedai - 30/11/2015 04:28:13 PM 873 Views
Some questions fionwe1987 - 30/11/2015 05:18:00 PM 1288 Views
Re: Some questions darius_sedai - 30/11/2015 07:26:29 PM 1297 Views
Re: Some questions Sidious - 01/12/2015 08:05:01 AM 1482 Views
That's why I added another column to it darius_sedai - 01/12/2015 04:25:04 PM 1365 Views
Some more fionwe1987 - 01/12/2015 05:24:40 PM 1381 Views
Re: Some more darius_sedai - 01/12/2015 07:34:20 PM 1405 Views
Re: Some more fionwe1987 - 02/12/2015 12:27:40 AM 1422 Views
Re: Some more darius_sedai - 02/12/2015 02:26:53 AM 1340 Views
Re: Some more fionwe1987 - 02/12/2015 08:24:49 AM 1391 Views
Re: Some more darius_sedai - 02/12/2015 05:54:49 PM 1431 Views
Re: Some more Sidious - 03/12/2015 04:26:45 AM 1241 Views
You said this much better than I did darius_sedai - 03/12/2015 03:53:57 PM 1291 Views
I think the men are much too strong Sidious - 02/12/2015 09:01:56 AM 1456 Views
Yes fionwe1987 - 02/12/2015 03:06:44 PM 1289 Views
Re: Yes Sidious - 02/12/2015 04:45:20 PM 1401 Views
Re: Yes darius_sedai - 02/12/2015 06:39:43 PM 1450 Views
Re: Yes Sidious - 03/12/2015 03:56:23 AM 1242 Views
I think when characters quoted information from their world it gets muddled darius_sedai - 03/12/2015 04:19:43 PM 1359 Views
Shielding Sidious - 05/12/2015 11:19:40 AM 1215 Views
I feel like there is an RJ quote about this actually darius_sedai - 06/12/2015 06:41:35 PM 1237 Views
Re: I feel like there is an RJ quote about this actually Sidious - 07/12/2015 12:39:54 PM 1294 Views
seriously! darius_sedai - 07/12/2015 04:55:43 PM 1288 Views
Who should defer to whom? darius_sedai - 01/12/2015 08:17:22 PM 1441 Views
Interesting... fionwe1987 - 02/12/2015 08:44:32 AM 1441 Views
I think there needs to be a pretty significant (5+ levels) difference darius_sedai - 02/12/2015 06:25:35 PM 1454 Views
Good job Terez - 05/12/2015 08:43:09 PM 1821 Views
Some questions fionwe1987 - 06/12/2015 12:28:46 AM 1298 Views
Can't offer much Terez - 06/12/2015 12:33:29 AM 1623 Views
Cool. Hopefully Dom will see this... fionwe1987 - 06/12/2015 08:58:39 PM 1223 Views
Re: Some questions darius_sedai - 06/12/2015 08:06:56 PM 1260 Views
Then there would be some mention of it, yes/ fionwe1987 - 06/12/2015 08:56:10 PM 1252 Views
Not at all ... He clearly had a general sense of how it worked darius_sedai - 07/12/2015 03:28:35 AM 1195 Views
Re: Some questions DomA - 07/12/2015 04:19:43 PM 1524 Views
yet we also know that some things are inherently different for men and women darius_sedai - 07/12/2015 08:15:26 PM 1210 Views
it probably has to do with the fact that the characters in the books are also obsessed with strength darius_sedai - 06/12/2015 07:58:20 PM 1320 Views
Sort of. Terez - 06/12/2015 10:30:36 PM 1804 Views
Makes sense fionwe1987 - 07/12/2015 12:38:54 AM 1223 Views
Clearly his strength rankings came in mid-series darius_sedai - 07/12/2015 07:39:59 PM 1447 Views
Re: Clearly his strength rankings came in mid-series Sidious - 10/12/2015 05:33:27 AM 1260 Views
Probably something along those lines darius_sedai - 10/12/2015 03:44:48 PM 1163 Views
Lifespan question (Spoiler) darius_sedai - 08/12/2015 05:42:41 PM 1209 Views
Moiraine... fionwe1987 - 09/12/2015 02:28:50 AM 1290 Views
That too is possible darius_sedai - 09/12/2015 03:02:12 PM 1232 Views
Some random trends/data points darius_sedai - 08/12/2015 08:39:14 PM 1244 Views
Who is the one Sharan? And I'm surprised so many Seanchan have listed strength levels. *NM* fionwe1987 - 09/12/2015 02:42:51 AM 815 Views
Re: Who is the one Sharan? And I'm surprised so many Seanchan have listed strength levels. darius_sedai - 09/12/2015 02:31:18 PM 1325 Views
Not sure she can channel, though fionwe1987 - 09/12/2015 03:22:17 PM 1147 Views
Re: Not sure she can channel, though darius_sedai - 09/12/2015 04:54:37 PM 1305 Views
duplicate post ignore *NM* darius_sedai - 09/12/2015 02:31:36 PM 738 Views
duplicate post ignore *NM* darius_sedai - 09/12/2015 02:31:55 PM 765 Views
so.... Sidious - 09/12/2015 06:10:41 AM 1300 Views
Nope... fionwe1987 - 09/12/2015 03:24:07 PM 1289 Views
Yes Sidious - 09/12/2015 03:46:30 PM 1210 Views
Some things to consider fionwe1987 - 09/12/2015 04:18:50 PM 1225 Views
Re: Some things to consider Sidious - 10/12/2015 05:43:35 AM 1173 Views
Re: Some things to consider fionwe1987 - 10/12/2015 06:28:49 AM 1158 Views
Re: Some things to consider Sidious - 10/12/2015 11:53:51 AM 1201 Views
Sorilea has always been shown as skilled darius_sedai - 10/12/2015 04:10:37 PM 1277 Views
Re: Some things to consider fionwe1987 - 10/12/2015 04:46:29 PM 1201 Views
Re: Some things to consider Sidious - 10/12/2015 05:50:17 PM 1196 Views
plenty of weaker ones with notably strong Talents actually darius_sedai - 10/12/2015 06:26:03 PM 1259 Views
This is a flawed list Sidious - 11/12/2015 05:14:47 AM 1193 Views
and you are just rationalizing to make your point seem plausible darius_sedai - 11/12/2015 03:10:12 PM 1305 Views
another point about Talents (unrelated to the Strength question) darius_sedai - 11/12/2015 06:06:42 PM 1375 Views
Not really Sidious - 11/12/2015 09:09:41 PM 1284 Views
You are trying to force fit thin evidence into a sweeping statement darius_sedai - 11/12/2015 10:13:13 PM 1294 Views
Re: You are trying to force fit thin evidence into a sweeping statement Sidious - 12/12/2015 06:46:05 AM 1198 Views
Let's face it a body builder ninja is sort of funny to think about darius_sedai - 12/12/2015 02:55:37 PM 1286 Views
Some quotes fionwe1987 - 12/12/2015 01:18:41 AM 1185 Views
Re: Some things to consider fionwe1987 - 12/12/2015 03:18:30 AM 1288 Views
Re: Some things to consider Sidious - 12/12/2015 06:19:15 AM 1246 Views
Hey ... I have no interest in making you look stupid! darius_sedai - 12/12/2015 03:15:26 PM 1196 Views
Re: Hey ... I have no interest in making you look stupid! Sidious - 13/12/2015 11:26:17 AM 1218 Views
Yes, it's a sad thing to realize that this is pretty much the end of the road darius_sedai - 14/12/2015 04:40:50 PM 1174 Views
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I'm actually perplexed fionwe1987 - 15/12/2015 07:19:27 AM 1158 Views
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LOL ... Amen! *NM* darius_sedai - 15/12/2015 03:54:55 PM 774 Views
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Re: Yes and No DomA - 09/12/2015 10:41:32 PM 1298 Views
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