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Too bad he also wrote in contingencies darius_sedai Send a noteboard - 06/12/2015 07:45:26 PM

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But really, it's all about RJ's comment in the notes. He reminded himself that the level below which a channeler can't lift anything with Air (which would be required to make a scarf move) is 57, a way still to 66.

Why did RJ bothered with levels so weak? My guess is that he wanted to go all the way to "0 units", and I bet his mind was also set on getting his 72 levels.


I guess I thought the whole "lift a feather" bit was more figurative than literal ... sounds like he was being specific.


It took it figuratively too, but as an indication that 57 is the last level at which a channeler can lift anything with air, so Morgase is likely 57 or 56, as ten levels down that cut-off mark seems way to far below, figurative or not.

I'd have to check the full context, but I remember that Terez too was under the impression he had Morgase in mind when he wrote that note, which iRRC is in a file dating from between COT and KOD where the Morgase episode takes place. Sorilea isn't far from there too. IMO, it's intentional that those two are quite similarly weak, but a lot of people misunderstood where he was going with that and tought Sorilea "much stronger" because unlike Morgase her teachers persisted as long as necessary to train her as much as she could learn, and more. The WO (in a scene scorning the AS training) told us that in the books... Sorilea was an example of the results, especially in the scene with Cadsuane and the weave for Travelling..

I think it was meant as an illustration of how the WT, short of effectives, wastes the potential of women like Morgase, by showing that Sorilea was trained nonetheless and could teach channeling to pupils, even without using an angreal and in her days, even without linking. The WT is all the more unforgivable given the fact that they have angreal gathering dust rather than being used (and besides, a very weak woman like Morgase can link with her pupils to demonstrate weaves if necessary...). It was a flaw in the WT worldview, those "cut off" levels at which they rejected people that they could have found a use for.


Such as Talent and flow affinity ... He created more loop holes than the US Tax Code! He could still have easily said Morgase was a 66 but had extra strength with Air thus allowing her to move that scarf

It's one of the reasons I disliked how Sanderson handled Androl. Went too far outside of the system IMO. Would have been a more compelling character if he had simply been someone just a little too weak to make gateways rather than a man who essentially could not channel anything except gateways.

Domani Drag Queen in the White Tower ... Aran'gar watch out!
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