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This is further proof that natural skill increases with strength. This is very obvious with very strong channelers like Egwene and Elayne who could fully channel within only two years and with multiple flows. However, it is nice to see how the trend continues all the way down. Weaker women take longer to master channeling. Not a surprise at all.

There are several incredibly weak but very skilled Kinswomen listed. Further, it is explicitly stated that skill has nothing to do with strength.

The Tower not letting weaker women graduate to Aes Sedai early may have multiple reasons for it, but I wouldn't be too quick to conclude that therefore weaker women are less skilled.

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Sortable, searchable file of Channelers darius_sedai - 28/11/2015 10:01:57 PM 3726 Views
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Re: Outstanding job darius_sedai - 29/11/2015 06:53:40 PM 1425 Views
Very impressive. Well done. Cannoli - 29/11/2015 04:41:52 PM 1595 Views
Re: Very impressive. Well done. darius_sedai - 29/11/2015 06:54:02 PM 1481 Views
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Nope fionwe1987 - 30/11/2015 05:44:04 AM 1696 Views
They do say it Sidious - 30/11/2015 10:32:48 AM 1771 Views
I added Rand and Lews Therin to the ++1 Strength darius_sedai - 30/11/2015 03:21:00 PM 1464 Views
Re: I added Rand and Lews Therin to the ++1 Strength Sidious - 01/12/2015 08:02:01 AM 1579 Views
Well, it also states that there are gradations within each level too darius_sedai - 01/12/2015 04:26:29 PM 1605 Views
Well maybe Sidious - 02/12/2015 06:31:05 AM 1600 Views
Here's how I see it: fionwe1987 - 02/12/2015 08:34:54 AM 1599 Views
I agree darius_sedai - 02/12/2015 04:22:52 PM 1624 Views
Re: I agree DomA - 02/12/2015 05:14:50 PM 1800 Views
It's always been confusing darius_sedai - 02/12/2015 06:00:01 PM 1749 Views
Re: It's always been confusing DomA - 02/12/2015 07:27:11 PM 1753 Views
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Re: Here's how I see it: DomA - 02/12/2015 04:46:54 PM 1799 Views
Morgase Sidious - 03/12/2015 04:37:47 AM 1656 Views
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Re: Morgase DomA - 03/12/2015 07:46:59 PM 1774 Views
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Re: I didn't realize he was being literal in that comment DomA - 04/12/2015 08:41:51 PM 1485 Views
I don't know about RJ's issues, but the White Tower's waste always seemed like a minor theme there Cannoli - 04/12/2015 09:05:08 PM 1574 Views
Yes the Aes Sedai are all about "the glory of being Aes Sedai" kind of like religious cults darius_sedai - 06/12/2015 07:47:34 PM 1507 Views
Too bad he also wrote in contingencies darius_sedai - 06/12/2015 07:45:26 PM 1437 Views
Re: Well maybe darius_sedai - 02/12/2015 03:52:49 PM 1707 Views
Re: Well maybe Sidious - 02/12/2015 04:42:37 PM 1755 Views
Probably darius_sedai - 02/12/2015 06:11:42 PM 1520 Views
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Indeed darius_sedai - 02/12/2015 08:21:07 PM 1524 Views
Re: Indeed Sidious - 03/12/2015 04:08:03 AM 1454 Views
close enough to not debate about it darius_sedai - 03/12/2015 03:47:55 PM 1480 Views
Re: close enough to not debate about it fionwe1987 - 03/12/2015 04:14:38 PM 1468 Views
I think you misunderstand what I'm saying darius_sedai - 03/12/2015 04:43:29 PM 1539 Views
Re: I think you misunderstand what I'm saying fionwe1987 - 03/12/2015 05:41:17 PM 1548 Views
um, no darius_sedai - 03/12/2015 09:24:31 PM 1463 Views
You two seem like Egwene's interchangeable defenders to me; it's weird to see you fighting. Cannoli - 04/12/2015 09:21:23 PM 1805 Views
That's on you... fionwe1987 - 04/12/2015 09:46:51 PM 1472 Views
We've been arguing on the forums for like 10 years darius_sedai - 06/12/2015 07:36:55 PM 1458 Views
It's Cannoli, Darius fionwe1987 - 06/12/2015 08:53:06 PM 1460 Views
LOL *NM* darius_sedai - 07/12/2015 03:26:40 AM 880 Views
Some points Sidious - 05/12/2015 11:14:30 AM 1485 Views
Re: close enough to not debate about it Sidious - 05/12/2015 11:29:44 AM 1504 Views
Re: I added Rand and Lews Therin to the ++1 Strength gban007 - 03/12/2015 07:22:15 AM 1414 Views
Great job fionwe1987 - 30/11/2015 05:45:27 AM 1470 Views
Re: Great job darius_sedai - 30/11/2015 03:22:09 PM 1483 Views
Made a few adjustments to add some presumed minimum/maximum levels *NM* darius_sedai - 30/11/2015 04:28:13 PM 960 Views
Some questions fionwe1987 - 30/11/2015 05:18:00 PM 1451 Views
Re: Some questions darius_sedai - 30/11/2015 07:26:29 PM 1456 Views
Re: Some questions Sidious - 01/12/2015 08:05:01 AM 1647 Views
That's why I added another column to it darius_sedai - 01/12/2015 04:25:04 PM 1533 Views
Some more fionwe1987 - 01/12/2015 05:24:40 PM 1554 Views
Re: Some more darius_sedai - 01/12/2015 07:34:20 PM 1584 Views
Re: Some more fionwe1987 - 02/12/2015 12:27:40 AM 1596 Views
Re: Some more darius_sedai - 02/12/2015 02:26:53 AM 1521 Views
Re: Some more fionwe1987 - 02/12/2015 08:24:49 AM 1562 Views
Re: Some more darius_sedai - 02/12/2015 05:54:49 PM 1595 Views
Re: Some more Sidious - 03/12/2015 04:26:45 AM 1386 Views
You said this much better than I did darius_sedai - 03/12/2015 03:53:57 PM 1464 Views
I think the men are much too strong Sidious - 02/12/2015 09:01:56 AM 1626 Views
Yes fionwe1987 - 02/12/2015 03:06:44 PM 1446 Views
Re: Yes Sidious - 02/12/2015 04:45:20 PM 1556 Views
Re: Yes darius_sedai - 02/12/2015 06:39:43 PM 1610 Views
Re: Yes Sidious - 03/12/2015 03:56:23 AM 1415 Views
I think when characters quoted information from their world it gets muddled darius_sedai - 03/12/2015 04:19:43 PM 1541 Views
Shielding Sidious - 05/12/2015 11:19:40 AM 1388 Views
I feel like there is an RJ quote about this actually darius_sedai - 06/12/2015 06:41:35 PM 1410 Views
Re: I feel like there is an RJ quote about this actually Sidious - 07/12/2015 12:39:54 PM 1463 Views
seriously! darius_sedai - 07/12/2015 04:55:43 PM 1463 Views
Who should defer to whom? darius_sedai - 01/12/2015 08:17:22 PM 1610 Views
Interesting... fionwe1987 - 02/12/2015 08:44:32 AM 1603 Views
I think there needs to be a pretty significant (5+ levels) difference darius_sedai - 02/12/2015 06:25:35 PM 1635 Views
Good job Terez - 05/12/2015 08:43:09 PM 1960 Views
Some questions fionwe1987 - 06/12/2015 12:28:46 AM 1466 Views
Can't offer much Terez - 06/12/2015 12:33:29 AM 1782 Views
Cool. Hopefully Dom will see this... fionwe1987 - 06/12/2015 08:58:39 PM 1385 Views
Re: Some questions darius_sedai - 06/12/2015 08:06:56 PM 1416 Views
Then there would be some mention of it, yes/ fionwe1987 - 06/12/2015 08:56:10 PM 1408 Views
Not at all ... He clearly had a general sense of how it worked darius_sedai - 07/12/2015 03:28:35 AM 1340 Views
Re: Some questions DomA - 07/12/2015 04:19:43 PM 1712 Views
yet we also know that some things are inherently different for men and women darius_sedai - 07/12/2015 08:15:26 PM 1384 Views
it probably has to do with the fact that the characters in the books are also obsessed with strength darius_sedai - 06/12/2015 07:58:20 PM 1491 Views
Sort of. Terez - 06/12/2015 10:30:36 PM 1960 Views
Makes sense fionwe1987 - 07/12/2015 12:38:54 AM 1396 Views
Clearly his strength rankings came in mid-series darius_sedai - 07/12/2015 07:39:59 PM 1607 Views
Re: Clearly his strength rankings came in mid-series Sidious - 10/12/2015 05:33:27 AM 1444 Views
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Moiraine... fionwe1987 - 09/12/2015 02:28:50 AM 1446 Views
That too is possible darius_sedai - 09/12/2015 03:02:12 PM 1393 Views
Some random trends/data points darius_sedai - 08/12/2015 08:39:14 PM 1414 Views
Who is the one Sharan? And I'm surprised so many Seanchan have listed strength levels. *NM* fionwe1987 - 09/12/2015 02:42:51 AM 903 Views
Re: Who is the one Sharan? And I'm surprised so many Seanchan have listed strength levels. darius_sedai - 09/12/2015 02:31:18 PM 1475 Views
Not sure she can channel, though fionwe1987 - 09/12/2015 03:22:17 PM 1298 Views
Re: Not sure she can channel, though darius_sedai - 09/12/2015 04:54:37 PM 1475 Views
duplicate post ignore *NM* darius_sedai - 09/12/2015 02:31:36 PM 813 Views
duplicate post ignore *NM* darius_sedai - 09/12/2015 02:31:55 PM 843 Views
so.... Sidious - 09/12/2015 06:10:41 AM 1467 Views
Nope... fionwe1987 - 09/12/2015 03:24:07 PM 1447 Views
Yes Sidious - 09/12/2015 03:46:30 PM 1370 Views
Some things to consider fionwe1987 - 09/12/2015 04:18:50 PM 1373 Views
Re: Some things to consider Sidious - 10/12/2015 05:43:35 AM 1337 Views
Re: Some things to consider fionwe1987 - 10/12/2015 06:28:49 AM 1345 Views
Re: Some things to consider Sidious - 10/12/2015 11:53:51 AM 1383 Views
Sorilea has always been shown as skilled darius_sedai - 10/12/2015 04:10:37 PM 1446 Views
Re: Some things to consider fionwe1987 - 10/12/2015 04:46:29 PM 1380 Views
Re: Some things to consider Sidious - 10/12/2015 05:50:17 PM 1369 Views
plenty of weaker ones with notably strong Talents actually darius_sedai - 10/12/2015 06:26:03 PM 1429 Views
This is a flawed list Sidious - 11/12/2015 05:14:47 AM 1368 Views
and you are just rationalizing to make your point seem plausible darius_sedai - 11/12/2015 03:10:12 PM 1481 Views
another point about Talents (unrelated to the Strength question) darius_sedai - 11/12/2015 06:06:42 PM 1546 Views
Not really Sidious - 11/12/2015 09:09:41 PM 1453 Views
You are trying to force fit thin evidence into a sweeping statement darius_sedai - 11/12/2015 10:13:13 PM 1485 Views
Re: You are trying to force fit thin evidence into a sweeping statement Sidious - 12/12/2015 06:46:05 AM 1354 Views
Let's face it a body builder ninja is sort of funny to think about darius_sedai - 12/12/2015 02:55:37 PM 1451 Views
Some quotes fionwe1987 - 12/12/2015 01:18:41 AM 1346 Views
Re: Some things to consider fionwe1987 - 12/12/2015 03:18:30 AM 1443 Views
Re: Some things to consider Sidious - 12/12/2015 06:19:15 AM 1433 Views
Hey ... I have no interest in making you look stupid! darius_sedai - 12/12/2015 03:15:26 PM 1363 Views
Re: Hey ... I have no interest in making you look stupid! Sidious - 13/12/2015 11:26:17 AM 1401 Views
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Re: Yes, it's a sad thing to realize that this is pretty much the end of the road Sidious - 15/12/2015 06:01:58 AM 1394 Views
I'm actually perplexed fionwe1987 - 15/12/2015 07:19:27 AM 1328 Views
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LOL ... Amen! *NM* darius_sedai - 15/12/2015 03:54:55 PM 845 Views
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Greens... fionwe1987 - 10/12/2015 12:24:11 AM 1365 Views
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Re: Aran'gar fionwe1987 - 16/12/2015 06:50:27 PM 1717 Views
Re: Aran'gar Sidious - 17/12/2015 10:07:48 AM 1626 Views
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If you want to use the file you might want to grab it now before the site shuts down *NM* darius_sedai - 18/09/2016 06:45:48 PM 760 Views
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