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Re: actually that quote supports my thoughts Datakim Send a noteboard - 07/01/2010 12:10:07 AM
The way it reads sounds like it could take a lot of time after someone's death to secure the right body... so unless it's a journey that takes months after your death I'm thinking Balefire shouldn't really make all that much difference.


Umm no, DO keeps your soul in his grasp, maybe inside the bore while waiting for a body to be secured. But the initial capture of the soul has to happen quickly. However, once the DO has your soul in his grasp, he can keep it from escaping to join the pattern.

So to continue my example. If he captured you in those 2 minutes, he could then keep your soul in his hand for years if he wanted to, he would not need to find a body in the remaining 3 minutes. But if he missed that 5 minute window, nothing could be done.
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Rand the psycho? Datakim - 06/01/2010 02:53:30 AM 1800 Views
I cannot follow your assumptions. Fanatic-Templar - 06/01/2010 04:07:33 AM 1210 Views
On Balefire Lord Haart - 06/01/2010 04:43:18 AM 1205 Views
Good point Datakim - 06/01/2010 05:04:26 AM 1220 Views
On the nature of BaleFire Lord Haart - 06/01/2010 03:32:25 PM 1131 Views
Re: I cannot follow your assumptions. Datakim - 06/01/2010 04:59:12 AM 1040 Views
Wait! Datakim - 06/01/2010 05:10:33 AM 1119 Views
Re: Wait! callandor1000 - 06/01/2010 05:20:02 AM 1033 Views
Re: Wait! Datakim - 06/01/2010 05:58:00 AM 1021 Views
Re: Wait! callandor1000 - 06/01/2010 11:46:13 AM 997 Views
Re: Wait! Datakim - 06/01/2010 03:55:01 PM 1000 Views
I disagree Lord Haart - 06/01/2010 05:42:44 PM 950 Views
Re: I disagree Datakim - 06/01/2010 06:41:08 PM 987 Views
Re: I disagree Lord Haart - 07/01/2010 04:42:40 AM 969 Views
I doubt he meant 'in one go' as a single stream of balefire. Fanatic-Templar - 06/01/2010 07:30:56 AM 1089 Views
Re: I doubt he meant 'in one go' as a single stream of balefire. Datakim - 06/01/2010 03:32:24 PM 988 Views
Re: I doubt he meant 'in one go' as a single stream of balefire. Fanatic-Templar - 06/01/2010 09:52:47 PM 1091 Views
Re: I doubt he meant 'in one go' as a single stream of balefire. Datakim - 06/01/2010 11:19:56 PM 1008 Views
Re: I doubt he meant 'in one go' as a single stream of balefire. Fanatic-Templar - 07/01/2010 12:21:50 AM 1066 Views
Re: I doubt he meant 'in one go' as a single stream of balefire. Datakim - 07/01/2010 12:56:26 AM 994 Views
Re: I doubt he meant 'in one go' as a single stream of balefire. Fanatic-Templar - 07/01/2010 01:46:16 AM 1062 Views
I agree with Templar Lord Haart - 09/01/2010 04:36:20 PM 958 Views
Of course, I agree with you, esp since I just put forth the idea you support earlier in the thread. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 11/01/2010 04:58:26 PM 1500 Views
Re: I cannot follow your assumptions. Fanatic-Templar - 06/01/2010 07:57:54 AM 1095 Views
Rand crossed a line Etzel - 06/01/2010 02:36:42 PM 1098 Views
Re: Rand crossed a line Datakim - 06/01/2010 04:16:12 PM 1056 Views
But... Etzel - 06/01/2010 04:34:02 PM 1133 Views
Re: But... Datakim - 06/01/2010 06:14:25 PM 934 Views
Doesn't Balefire remove your thread from the Pattern permanently? darius_sedai - 06/01/2010 02:55:38 PM 1084 Views
No, RJ stated balefired people can be reborn. *NM* Etzel - 06/01/2010 03:26:00 PM 525 Views
But not in this turning of the Wheel. So they'd miss out on MANY lifetimes. Lord Haart - 06/01/2010 05:46:04 PM 988 Views
What? Datakim - 06/01/2010 06:20:56 PM 1003 Views
Where did you get that? Gher - 06/01/2010 07:09:38 PM 968 Views
No, balefire just kills you backwards in time. It is not super-death. *NM* Fanatic-Templar - 06/01/2010 09:58:18 PM 532 Views
LOL ... super-death! darius_sedai - 06/01/2010 11:59:31 PM 934 Views
Hah! *NM* RugbyPlayingAshaman - 07/01/2010 12:06:07 AM 528 Views
It makes me think of History of the World Part 1 darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 12:53:20 AM 968 Views
It makes me think of History of the World Part 1 darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 12:53:33 AM 924 Views
Yes it was. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 06/01/2010 06:51:15 PM 1069 Views
Re: Yes it was. Datakim - 06/01/2010 07:16:14 PM 1029 Views
Re: Yes it was. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 06/01/2010 08:58:40 PM 1025 Views
Re: Yes it was. Datakim - 06/01/2010 10:47:11 PM 1024 Views
let me ask the question in a different way darius_sedai - 06/01/2010 11:26:43 PM 1030 Views
Re: let me ask the question in a different way Datakim - 06/01/2010 11:40:56 PM 1008 Views
actually that quote supports my thoughts darius_sedai - 06/01/2010 11:50:40 PM 1072 Views
Re: actually that quote supports my thoughts Datakim - 07/01/2010 12:10:07 AM 964 Views
yet it could take him some undetermined amount of time to figure out your dead? darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 12:34:34 AM 969 Views
Re: yet it could take him some undetermined amount of time to figure out your dead? Datakim - 07/01/2010 01:13:40 AM 924 Views
Meh. I just think advocating mass-murder is the opposite direction RJ meant for this to take. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 07/01/2010 12:00:44 AM 1070 Views
Sigh. What mass murder? Datakim - 07/01/2010 12:15:01 AM 912 Views
you are kidding right? darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 12:19:58 AM 1011 Views
In this book Rand was a wimp and a bully. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 07/01/2010 03:14:32 PM 985 Views
Re: In this book Rand was a wimp and a bully. Datakim - 07/01/2010 03:57:43 PM 1007 Views
Re: In this book Rand was a wimp and a bully. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 07/01/2010 07:13:21 PM 1011 Views
Re: In this book Rand was a wimp and a bully. Datakim - 07/01/2010 07:52:24 PM 936 Views
Re: In this book Rand was a wimp and a bully. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 07/01/2010 08:56:43 PM 1021 Views
Re: In this book Rand was a wimp and a bully. Datakim - 07/01/2010 09:26:01 PM 987 Views
Re: In this book Rand was a wimp and a bully. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 07/01/2010 09:30:45 PM 911 Views
Personally I'm kind of sick of Rand being the only person killing FS! darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 09:42:57 PM 1070 Views
Re: In this book Rand was a wimp and a bully. Datakim - 07/01/2010 09:56:02 PM 1028 Views
OK I'm sorry but this gets a huge ROFL :lol: RugbyPlayingAshaman - 07/01/2010 10:30:19 PM 1029 Views
Re: OK I'm sorry but this gets a huge ROFL :lol: Sidious - 08/01/2010 01:53:25 PM 966 Views
Re: OK I'm sorry but this gets a huge ROFL :lol: RugbyPlayingAshaman - 08/01/2010 02:56:41 PM 1002 Views
What might work... Etzel - 08/01/2010 12:35:17 PM 906 Views
Re: What might work... Datakim - 08/01/2010 11:38:09 PM 926 Views
Yes. Anakin Skywalker all over again Itachi - 06/01/2010 11:01:02 PM 1098 Views
Meh Datakim - 06/01/2010 11:30:24 PM 931 Views
The worst part about his atrocities is his rationalizing them! darius_sedai - 06/01/2010 11:33:32 PM 933 Views
Re: The worst part about his atrocities is his rationalizing them! Datakim - 06/01/2010 11:50:37 PM 1031 Views
Re: The worst part about his atrocities is his rationalizing them! darius_sedai - 06/01/2010 11:55:03 PM 999 Views
I do have to guiltily say, though, that if Rand had balefired the Seanchan and THEN became good... RugbyPlayingAshaman - 07/01/2010 12:03:20 AM 988 Views
*laughs behind hand* darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 12:05:54 AM 1066 Views
Re: The worst part about his atrocities is his rationalizing them! Datakim - 07/01/2010 12:23:11 AM 914 Views
I don't think Rand or LTT (who has/have) little capacity for Healing darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 12:52:25 AM 966 Views
Re: I don't think Rand or LTT (who has/have) little capacity for Healing Datakim - 07/01/2010 01:24:32 AM 1021 Views
Re: I don't think Rand or LTT (who has/have) little capacity for Healing darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 03:33:52 PM 947 Views
Re: I don't think Rand or LTT (who has/have) little capacity for Healing Datakim - 07/01/2010 04:28:18 PM 1097 Views
right cause all Generals are so well versed in medical conditions darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 09:44:09 PM 1066 Views
Nice way to avoid the argument. Datakim - 07/01/2010 10:00:17 PM 994 Views
I'm just done talking in circles. You seem to think that because people darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 11:53:05 PM 1031 Views
I concede Datakim - 07/01/2010 01:09:11 AM 929 Views
You weren't wrong overall, but there were some serious flaws in your reasoning. Cannoli - 07/01/2010 02:43:17 AM 1066 Views
Tee hee. Fanatic-Templar - 07/01/2010 05:28:52 AM 1007 Views
Morals are subjective anyhow, Nyrende - 07/01/2010 06:23:09 AM 1011 Views
Re: Morals are subjective anyhow, RugbyPlayingAshaman - 07/01/2010 03:23:59 PM 946 Views
I have religious beliefs and that is an absurd contention Cannoli - 09/01/2010 12:00:02 AM 1021 Views
Re: I have religious beliefs and that is an absurd contention Lord Haart - 09/01/2010 05:56:16 PM 1198 Views
Re: I have religious beliefs and that is an absurd contention Cannoli - 18/01/2010 01:00:23 PM 1331 Views
Your assertions weaken your overall argument. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 11/01/2010 04:47:10 PM 907 Views
Re: Your assertions weaken your overall argument. Cannoli - 18/01/2010 12:49:26 PM 939 Views
You are treating Graendal's "pets" as though they were enemy combatants darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 03:40:03 PM 1078 Views
Like I give a damn what a group of professional killers would do. Cannoli - 08/01/2010 11:39:11 PM 942 Views
Graendal captured these people as part of the Shadows offensive, Operation Chaos Rules darius_sedai - 09/01/2010 12:00:40 AM 1235 Views
Well, I still liked your first argument. It's a freaking war. The argument ... amirebram - 07/01/2010 07:08:53 PM 991 Views
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