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I'm just done talking in circles. You seem to think that because people darius_sedai Send a noteboard - 07/01/2010 11:53:05 PM
LTT does not need to to be well versed. All he needs to do is a read a report from several top experts who say "This cannot be done, Graendals victims cannot be healed".

Or do you think that the restorers of the time who worked on Graendals victims did not bother to inform the LEADER OF THE WHOLE THING, about this kind of rather IMPORTANT detail. Please..

Besides, The fact that LTT knew HOW TO UNRAVEL THE COMPULSION, does suggest that he has more than a passing familiarity with the thing and what it does.


3000 years ago couldn't do it then it cannot be done... RJ has shown us the folly of that thought process more than once.

Rand took the easy way out and committed mass murder... if you don't want to see that I'm not going to try and explain it any further for you.
Domani Drag Queen in the White Tower ... Aran'gar watch out!
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Rand the psycho? Datakim - 06/01/2010 02:53:30 AM 1763 Views
I cannot follow your assumptions. Fanatic-Templar - 06/01/2010 04:07:33 AM 1173 Views
On Balefire Lord Haart - 06/01/2010 04:43:18 AM 1178 Views
Good point Datakim - 06/01/2010 05:04:26 AM 1187 Views
On the nature of BaleFire Lord Haart - 06/01/2010 03:32:25 PM 1105 Views
Re: I cannot follow your assumptions. Datakim - 06/01/2010 04:59:12 AM 1005 Views
Wait! Datakim - 06/01/2010 05:10:33 AM 1097 Views
Re: Wait! callandor1000 - 06/01/2010 05:20:02 AM 1007 Views
Re: Wait! Datakim - 06/01/2010 05:58:00 AM 997 Views
Re: Wait! callandor1000 - 06/01/2010 11:46:13 AM 955 Views
Re: Wait! Datakim - 06/01/2010 03:55:01 PM 968 Views
I disagree Lord Haart - 06/01/2010 05:42:44 PM 921 Views
Re: I disagree Datakim - 06/01/2010 06:41:08 PM 955 Views
Re: I disagree Lord Haart - 07/01/2010 04:42:40 AM 938 Views
I doubt he meant 'in one go' as a single stream of balefire. Fanatic-Templar - 06/01/2010 07:30:56 AM 1060 Views
Re: I doubt he meant 'in one go' as a single stream of balefire. Datakim - 06/01/2010 03:32:24 PM 959 Views
Re: I doubt he meant 'in one go' as a single stream of balefire. Fanatic-Templar - 06/01/2010 09:52:47 PM 1064 Views
Re: I doubt he meant 'in one go' as a single stream of balefire. Datakim - 06/01/2010 11:19:56 PM 976 Views
Re: I doubt he meant 'in one go' as a single stream of balefire. Fanatic-Templar - 07/01/2010 12:21:50 AM 1034 Views
Re: I doubt he meant 'in one go' as a single stream of balefire. Datakim - 07/01/2010 12:56:26 AM 968 Views
Re: I doubt he meant 'in one go' as a single stream of balefire. Fanatic-Templar - 07/01/2010 01:46:16 AM 1028 Views
I agree with Templar Lord Haart - 09/01/2010 04:36:20 PM 923 Views
Of course, I agree with you, esp since I just put forth the idea you support earlier in the thread. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 11/01/2010 04:58:26 PM 1470 Views
Re: I cannot follow your assumptions. Fanatic-Templar - 06/01/2010 07:57:54 AM 1057 Views
Rand crossed a line Etzel - 06/01/2010 02:36:42 PM 1068 Views
Re: Rand crossed a line Datakim - 06/01/2010 04:16:12 PM 1019 Views
But... Etzel - 06/01/2010 04:34:02 PM 1105 Views
Re: But... Datakim - 06/01/2010 06:14:25 PM 899 Views
Doesn't Balefire remove your thread from the Pattern permanently? darius_sedai - 06/01/2010 02:55:38 PM 1048 Views
No, RJ stated balefired people can be reborn. *NM* Etzel - 06/01/2010 03:26:00 PM 510 Views
But not in this turning of the Wheel. So they'd miss out on MANY lifetimes. Lord Haart - 06/01/2010 05:46:04 PM 965 Views
What? Datakim - 06/01/2010 06:20:56 PM 980 Views
Where did you get that? Gher - 06/01/2010 07:09:38 PM 936 Views
No, balefire just kills you backwards in time. It is not super-death. *NM* Fanatic-Templar - 06/01/2010 09:58:18 PM 521 Views
LOL ... super-death! darius_sedai - 06/01/2010 11:59:31 PM 906 Views
Hah! *NM* RugbyPlayingAshaman - 07/01/2010 12:06:07 AM 520 Views
It makes me think of History of the World Part 1 darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 12:53:20 AM 935 Views
It makes me think of History of the World Part 1 darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 12:53:33 AM 896 Views
Yes it was. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 06/01/2010 06:51:15 PM 1045 Views
Re: Yes it was. Datakim - 06/01/2010 07:16:14 PM 997 Views
Re: Yes it was. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 06/01/2010 08:58:40 PM 995 Views
Re: Yes it was. Datakim - 06/01/2010 10:47:11 PM 990 Views
let me ask the question in a different way darius_sedai - 06/01/2010 11:26:43 PM 1002 Views
Re: let me ask the question in a different way Datakim - 06/01/2010 11:40:56 PM 971 Views
actually that quote supports my thoughts darius_sedai - 06/01/2010 11:50:40 PM 1043 Views
Re: actually that quote supports my thoughts Datakim - 07/01/2010 12:10:07 AM 936 Views
yet it could take him some undetermined amount of time to figure out your dead? darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 12:34:34 AM 942 Views
Re: yet it could take him some undetermined amount of time to figure out your dead? Datakim - 07/01/2010 01:13:40 AM 899 Views
Meh. I just think advocating mass-murder is the opposite direction RJ meant for this to take. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 07/01/2010 12:00:44 AM 1042 Views
Sigh. What mass murder? Datakim - 07/01/2010 12:15:01 AM 880 Views
you are kidding right? darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 12:19:58 AM 986 Views
In this book Rand was a wimp and a bully. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 07/01/2010 03:14:32 PM 948 Views
Re: In this book Rand was a wimp and a bully. Datakim - 07/01/2010 03:57:43 PM 980 Views
Re: In this book Rand was a wimp and a bully. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 07/01/2010 07:13:21 PM 982 Views
Re: In this book Rand was a wimp and a bully. Datakim - 07/01/2010 07:52:24 PM 911 Views
Re: In this book Rand was a wimp and a bully. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 07/01/2010 08:56:43 PM 994 Views
Re: In this book Rand was a wimp and a bully. Datakim - 07/01/2010 09:26:01 PM 953 Views
Re: In this book Rand was a wimp and a bully. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 07/01/2010 09:30:45 PM 878 Views
Personally I'm kind of sick of Rand being the only person killing FS! darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 09:42:57 PM 1042 Views
Re: In this book Rand was a wimp and a bully. Datakim - 07/01/2010 09:56:02 PM 994 Views
OK I'm sorry but this gets a huge ROFL :lol: RugbyPlayingAshaman - 07/01/2010 10:30:19 PM 1004 Views
Re: OK I'm sorry but this gets a huge ROFL :lol: Sidious - 08/01/2010 01:53:25 PM 943 Views
Re: OK I'm sorry but this gets a huge ROFL :lol: RugbyPlayingAshaman - 08/01/2010 02:56:41 PM 973 Views
What might work... Etzel - 08/01/2010 12:35:17 PM 884 Views
Re: What might work... Datakim - 08/01/2010 11:38:09 PM 899 Views
Yes. Anakin Skywalker all over again Itachi - 06/01/2010 11:01:02 PM 1070 Views
Meh Datakim - 06/01/2010 11:30:24 PM 903 Views
The worst part about his atrocities is his rationalizing them! darius_sedai - 06/01/2010 11:33:32 PM 905 Views
Re: The worst part about his atrocities is his rationalizing them! Datakim - 06/01/2010 11:50:37 PM 996 Views
Re: The worst part about his atrocities is his rationalizing them! darius_sedai - 06/01/2010 11:55:03 PM 973 Views
I do have to guiltily say, though, that if Rand had balefired the Seanchan and THEN became good... RugbyPlayingAshaman - 07/01/2010 12:03:20 AM 966 Views
*laughs behind hand* darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 12:05:54 AM 1037 Views
Re: The worst part about his atrocities is his rationalizing them! Datakim - 07/01/2010 12:23:11 AM 890 Views
I don't think Rand or LTT (who has/have) little capacity for Healing darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 12:52:25 AM 932 Views
Re: I don't think Rand or LTT (who has/have) little capacity for Healing Datakim - 07/01/2010 01:24:32 AM 988 Views
Re: I don't think Rand or LTT (who has/have) little capacity for Healing darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 03:33:52 PM 915 Views
Re: I don't think Rand or LTT (who has/have) little capacity for Healing Datakim - 07/01/2010 04:28:18 PM 1072 Views
right cause all Generals are so well versed in medical conditions darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 09:44:09 PM 1034 Views
Nice way to avoid the argument. Datakim - 07/01/2010 10:00:17 PM 970 Views
I'm just done talking in circles. You seem to think that because people darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 11:53:05 PM 998 Views
I concede Datakim - 07/01/2010 01:09:11 AM 904 Views
You weren't wrong overall, but there were some serious flaws in your reasoning. Cannoli - 07/01/2010 02:43:17 AM 1038 Views
Tee hee. Fanatic-Templar - 07/01/2010 05:28:52 AM 975 Views
Morals are subjective anyhow, Nyrende - 07/01/2010 06:23:09 AM 980 Views
Re: Morals are subjective anyhow, RugbyPlayingAshaman - 07/01/2010 03:23:59 PM 915 Views
I have religious beliefs and that is an absurd contention Cannoli - 09/01/2010 12:00:02 AM 991 Views
Re: I have religious beliefs and that is an absurd contention Lord Haart - 09/01/2010 05:56:16 PM 1166 Views
Re: I have religious beliefs and that is an absurd contention Cannoli - 18/01/2010 01:00:23 PM 1300 Views
Your assertions weaken your overall argument. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 11/01/2010 04:47:10 PM 878 Views
Re: Your assertions weaken your overall argument. Cannoli - 18/01/2010 12:49:26 PM 915 Views
You are treating Graendal's "pets" as though they were enemy combatants darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 03:40:03 PM 1044 Views
Like I give a damn what a group of professional killers would do. Cannoli - 08/01/2010 11:39:11 PM 911 Views
Graendal captured these people as part of the Shadows offensive, Operation Chaos Rules darius_sedai - 09/01/2010 12:00:40 AM 1208 Views
Well, I still liked your first argument. It's a freaking war. The argument ... amirebram - 07/01/2010 07:08:53 PM 955 Views
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