No matter how many times people say it, this is still not true.
Fanatic-Templar Send a noteboard - 05/02/2010 10:21:45 PM
All of his 'knowledge' of Rand's death are based on rumors. Because the general public knows much better than people who are directly involved with the incident, who happen to be his close friends to boot. It always seemed to me that RJ made Gawyn behave this way for some plot-related reason that escapes me.
Gawyn's PoV in The First Message clearly shows that Gawyn realises that there is only a rumour, and he only says that he would kill Rand if Morgase and Elayne were dead.
Later, in Like Lightning and Rain, he promises to allow Egwene to prove Rand innocent and to forestall judgment until then. Never mind that Egwene is an idiot and could have told him she was there when Rand learned of Morgase's death and decided to invade Andor to avenge her (News Comes to Cairhien).
And in Dumai's Wells he makes good that promise.
Not that I know which 'people who are directly involved in the incident and happen to be his close friends to boot' have told him otherwise.
But you know who does believe Morgase is dead based on a rumour? Everyone else. Rand invades Andor on the basis that he heard from Mat who heard from one of his men who heard from the enemy who have heard rumours that Morgase hasn't been seen in weeks. (News Comes to Cairhien).
Elayne also believes it because Nynaeve and Birgitte learned from Moghedien that Rand was attacking Rahvin to avenge Morgase's death based on the evidence I've described above. This evidence is apparently strong enough that the very idea that Whitecloaks and/or Darkfriends may be using her for political gain is considered impossible by her.
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Who would win in a fight? (yes, you read that right!
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- 04/02/2010 10:38:01 PM
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- 04/02/2010 10:38:01 PM
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Gawyn. *chokes back the vomit that rushes up his throat*
- 04/02/2010 10:53:37 PM
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There there
- 04/02/2010 11:15:00 PM
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- 04/02/2010 11:15:00 PM
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Huh? He was even WORSE in TGS.
- 05/02/2010 05:14:16 AM
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It pains me to say it, but Gawyn would win.
- 04/02/2010 11:15:19 PM
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Gawyn is incredibly irritating
- 05/02/2010 01:55:40 AM
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No matter how many times people say it, this is still not true.
- 05/02/2010 10:21:45 PM
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Re: No matter how many times people say it, this is still not true.
- 05/02/2010 10:44:47 PM
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Re: No matter how many times people say it, this is still not true.
- 05/02/2010 11:53:18 PM
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Perhaps the key is that Gawyn is an even more simplistic thinker than Galad.
- 06/02/2010 06:20:06 AM
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Again, what? When?
- 06/02/2010 08:08:47 AM
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Well, the fact that he's had access to one of the best educations in Randland
- 06/02/2010 09:22:28 AM
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Completely different subjects, and pretty insignificant, really. *NM*
- 06/02/2010 06:44:35 PM
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Re: Who would win in a fight? (yes, you read that right!
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- 05/02/2010 04:27:16 AM
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- 05/02/2010 04:27:16 AM
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Add Nynaeve and Egwene to the fight, that's something worth seeing then.
- 05/02/2010 05:20:53 AM
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Egwene would hand Nynaeve her ass
- 05/02/2010 04:55:51 PM
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I agree.
- 05/02/2010 05:10:34 PM
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Re: I agree.
- 05/02/2010 05:25:52 PM
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You're forgeting Nynaeve's fight vs Trollocs in KoD.
- 05/02/2010 07:41:28 PM
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Re: You're forgeting Nynaeve's fight vs Trollocs in KoD.
- 05/02/2010 09:42:32 PM
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I just mentioned it since you said Egwene had more combat experience.
- 06/02/2010 06:21:38 AM
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Re: Egwene would hand Nynaeve her ass
- 05/02/2010 07:49:27 PM
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yet RJ has told us that Nynaeve would barely pass the AS test
- 05/02/2010 09:41:09 PM
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Re: yet RJ has told us that Nynaeve would barely pass the AS test
- 05/02/2010 10:00:11 PM
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That's not what RJ said. He said Nynaeve would be a little hard pressed
- 05/02/2010 10:18:42 PM
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she might be a little hard pressed to pass a test she should pass without thought!
- 06/02/2010 05:56:38 PM
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Moiraine was hard pressed to pass, and she practiced for ages and is the #1 Battle AS.
- 06/02/2010 08:27:26 PM
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she passed pretty easily IMO
- 06/02/2010 09:12:13 PM
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Just like Be'lal did? And Lanfear's already learned that lesson the hard way.
- 07/02/2010 01:40:45 AM
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Re: Just like Be'lal did? And Lanfear's already learned that lesson the hard way.
- 07/02/2010 01:52:40 AM
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Yes, but choosing the time to attack is part of how good a fighter someone is.
- 07/02/2010 06:30:55 PM
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The test for the Shawl has little to nothing to do with channeling, you know this right? *NM*
- 05/02/2010 10:23:16 PM
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of course it does
- 06/02/2010 05:48:41 PM
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That's not how it happens in New Spring.
- 06/02/2010 07:00:52 PM
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that's because Moiraine trained and is relatively skilled (for AS)
- 06/02/2010 07:34:05 PM
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That's nonsensical.
- 06/02/2010 09:02:13 PM
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It's what RJ said ... "too much specialization"
- 06/02/2010 09:14:38 PM
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About splitting weaves 14 ways
- 05/02/2010 10:55:28 PM
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Re: About splitting weaves 14 ways
- 05/02/2010 11:08:50 PM
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Can you provide that quote?
- 06/02/2010 07:34:49 PM
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Re: Can you provide that quote?
- 06/02/2010 08:19:08 PM
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Yup, plus those were complex weaves that may have required multiple flows.
- 06/02/2010 08:30:52 PM
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there is nothing to say that multiple weaves are involved.
- 06/02/2010 09:16:29 PM
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That's the nature on the weaving.
- 06/02/2010 09:24:39 PM
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Not really
- 06/02/2010 10:46:52 PM
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Yes, really
- 06/02/2010 10:55:22 PM
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Re: Yes, really
- 06/02/2010 11:29:17 PM
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Re: Yes, really
- 06/02/2010 11:48:14 PM
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Re: Yes, really
- 07/02/2010 12:18:12 AM
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Re: Yes, really
- 07/02/2010 01:46:14 AM
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Re: Can you provide that quote?
- 06/02/2010 10:14:24 PM
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1 Blossom = 1 Weave ... there is nothing to say that each thread requires splitting flows
- 06/02/2010 10:48:11 PM
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Fine, I used the word weave when I should have used flow. 36 flows to create 12 weaves. *NM*
- 06/02/2010 10:57:09 PM
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IMO fighting with the Power has little to do with skill
- 06/02/2010 09:01:23 AM
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so you've learned nothing from Cyndane v. Alivia.
- 06/02/2010 05:45:19 PM
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It's a lone example contested by many other examples
- 07/02/2010 09:53:51 AM
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the only dueling where a channeler tries to overpower is Nynaeve v. Moghedien
- 07/02/2010 01:57:43 PM
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Re: the only dueling where a channeler tries to overpower is Nynaeve v. Moghedien
- 07/02/2010 04:25:57 PM
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from RJs lips to your ears ...
- 07/02/2010 06:55:27 PM
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Re: from RJs lips to your ears ...
- 07/02/2010 08:04:57 PM
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- 07/02/2010 08:04:57 PM
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Re: from RJs lips to your ears ...
- 07/02/2010 08:20:31 PM
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- 07/02/2010 08:20:31 PM
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... but I can't let this one go...
- 07/02/2010 11:09:04 PM
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Hmm...
- 07/02/2010 11:05:00 PM
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if you had points worth responding too I would ... as always you fall back on pretending you are RJ
- 07/02/2010 11:07:37 PM
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i.e. I back up my points by using RJ's written words and their validity irritates you *NM*
- 07/02/2010 11:11:55 PM
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Re: i.e. I back up my points by using RJ's written words and their validity irritates you
- 07/02/2010 11:18:49 PM
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Yeah, what's a couple of fights with a Forsaken?
How's Egwene without her sa'angreal crutch?
- 05/02/2010 11:40:13 PM
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How's Egwene without her sa'angreal crutch?
- 05/02/2010 11:40:13 PM
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I disagree
- 06/02/2010 05:30:40 AM
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Egwene never even got into that fight and we are talking about Lanfear
- 06/02/2010 05:46:27 PM
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Re: Egwene never even got into that fight and we are talking about Lanfear
- 06/02/2010 08:23:20 PM
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she got hit with a pain weave before she did a damn thing
- 06/02/2010 09:21:11 PM
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On the whole Egwene vs. Nynaeve thing...
- 06/02/2010 10:43:43 PM
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Re: On the whole Egwene vs. Nynaeve thing...
- 06/02/2010 11:12:27 PM
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Re: On the whole Egwene vs. Nynaeve thing...
- 07/02/2010 08:02:40 AM
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but whoever wins
- 05/02/2010 04:54:52 AM
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*nods* That's cuz ...
- 05/02/2010 05:26:57 AM
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I actually think Lan would win
- 05/02/2010 04:57:24 PM
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Agreed
- 05/02/2010 08:22:26 PM
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If it was for "real" Lan wins, in practice ... Gawyn could be the superior *NM*
- 05/02/2010 09:43:20 PM
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I think Lan, hands down.
- 05/02/2010 03:30:20 PM
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THANK you.
- 05/02/2010 11:41:43 PM
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You forgot that the Warder Matched Lan A LONG time ago. Lan stopped sparring.
- 05/02/2010 08:42:49 PM
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According to the Theoryland database RJ apparently said once...
- 06/02/2010 08:55:50 AM
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Huh ....
- 06/02/2010 06:23:10 PM
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Re: According to the Theoryland database RJ apparently said once...
- 06/02/2010 06:28:15 PM
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If Gawyn is the best because he defeated two Warders, what about Rand?
- 06/02/2010 09:15:34 PM
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