As it was established in the book, creating something requires a weave. Creating something more requires more weaves.
You provided the wrong quote. There is a paragraph after the one you've provided where Myrddraal attacks Rand and Rand weaves 100 Arrows at once.
While I sorta agree with you that what Rand did was very impressive, I must disagree with you here.
The text strongly suggests that what Rand does, is create a single weave on his hands and this single weave (composed of two flows, earth and fire) then creates all the arrow-filaments that Rand uses.
Essentially, rather than creating separate weaves for each arrow, Rand creates a single weave which then spews out a continuous stream of filaments. An analogy to this could be what Nynaeve did to Rahvin. She summoned fire and filled the whole hallway where Rahvin was with it, but I doubt she created a separate weave for each distinct flame.
Though if you think of it, this actually makes what Rand did far better than otherwise. I mean having to create a separate weave for each filament would be horribly inefficient. If this were truly the case, Rand would have been better off creating a blossom of fire (which only requires 1 more flow) since that causes destruction on a wide area, rather than just a single arrow-filament.
Instead, Rand creates a single weave composed of just 2 flows. And this single weave is capable of shooting lots and lots of filaments with Rand just having to maintain this weave. I think this is a demonstration of a truly master-level channeling, doing something so strong with something so little. If you compare that to standard AS tactic of just throwing fireballs (which Egwene does btw), the AS look just plain silly in comparison.
With just 2 flows and a single extraordinarily intricate weave, Rand creates what is essentially an OP-machinegun. If Egwene could have created this, she could probably have killed all of the Raken and prevented Seanchan from gaining Traveling. But then Egwene is just a politician and an average channeler. I suppose you cannot blame her for not having the skill that the experts have.
Who would win in a fight? (yes, you read that right!
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- 04/02/2010 10:38:01 PM
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- 04/02/2010 10:38:01 PM
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Gawyn. *chokes back the vomit that rushes up his throat*
- 04/02/2010 10:53:37 PM
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There there
- 04/02/2010 11:15:00 PM
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- 04/02/2010 11:15:00 PM
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Huh? He was even WORSE in TGS.
- 05/02/2010 05:14:16 AM
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It pains me to say it, but Gawyn would win.
- 04/02/2010 11:15:19 PM
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Gawyn is incredibly irritating
- 05/02/2010 01:55:40 AM
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No matter how many times people say it, this is still not true.
- 05/02/2010 10:21:45 PM
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Re: No matter how many times people say it, this is still not true.
- 05/02/2010 10:44:47 PM
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Re: No matter how many times people say it, this is still not true.
- 05/02/2010 11:53:18 PM
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Perhaps the key is that Gawyn is an even more simplistic thinker than Galad.
- 06/02/2010 06:20:06 AM
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Again, what? When?
- 06/02/2010 08:08:47 AM
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Well, the fact that he's had access to one of the best educations in Randland
- 06/02/2010 09:22:28 AM
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Completely different subjects, and pretty insignificant, really. *NM*
- 06/02/2010 06:44:35 PM
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Re: Who would win in a fight? (yes, you read that right!
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- 05/02/2010 04:27:16 AM
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- 05/02/2010 04:27:16 AM
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Add Nynaeve and Egwene to the fight, that's something worth seeing then.
- 05/02/2010 05:20:53 AM
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Egwene would hand Nynaeve her ass
- 05/02/2010 04:55:51 PM
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I agree.
- 05/02/2010 05:10:34 PM
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Re: I agree.
- 05/02/2010 05:25:52 PM
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You're forgeting Nynaeve's fight vs Trollocs in KoD.
- 05/02/2010 07:41:28 PM
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Re: You're forgeting Nynaeve's fight vs Trollocs in KoD.
- 05/02/2010 09:42:32 PM
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I just mentioned it since you said Egwene had more combat experience.
- 06/02/2010 06:21:38 AM
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Re: Egwene would hand Nynaeve her ass
- 05/02/2010 07:49:27 PM
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yet RJ has told us that Nynaeve would barely pass the AS test
- 05/02/2010 09:41:09 PM
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Re: yet RJ has told us that Nynaeve would barely pass the AS test
- 05/02/2010 10:00:11 PM
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That's not what RJ said. He said Nynaeve would be a little hard pressed
- 05/02/2010 10:18:42 PM
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she might be a little hard pressed to pass a test she should pass without thought!
- 06/02/2010 05:56:38 PM
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Moiraine was hard pressed to pass, and she practiced for ages and is the #1 Battle AS.
- 06/02/2010 08:27:26 PM
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she passed pretty easily IMO
- 06/02/2010 09:12:13 PM
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Just like Be'lal did? And Lanfear's already learned that lesson the hard way.
- 07/02/2010 01:40:45 AM
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Re: Just like Be'lal did? And Lanfear's already learned that lesson the hard way.
- 07/02/2010 01:52:40 AM
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Yes, but choosing the time to attack is part of how good a fighter someone is.
- 07/02/2010 06:30:55 PM
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The test for the Shawl has little to nothing to do with channeling, you know this right? *NM*
- 05/02/2010 10:23:16 PM
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of course it does
- 06/02/2010 05:48:41 PM
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That's not how it happens in New Spring.
- 06/02/2010 07:00:52 PM
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that's because Moiraine trained and is relatively skilled (for AS)
- 06/02/2010 07:34:05 PM
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That's nonsensical.
- 06/02/2010 09:02:13 PM
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It's what RJ said ... "too much specialization"
- 06/02/2010 09:14:38 PM
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About splitting weaves 14 ways
- 05/02/2010 10:55:28 PM
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Re: About splitting weaves 14 ways
- 05/02/2010 11:08:50 PM
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Can you provide that quote?
- 06/02/2010 07:34:49 PM
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Re: Can you provide that quote?
- 06/02/2010 08:19:08 PM
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Yup, plus those were complex weaves that may have required multiple flows.
- 06/02/2010 08:30:52 PM
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there is nothing to say that multiple weaves are involved.
- 06/02/2010 09:16:29 PM
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That's the nature on the weaving.
- 06/02/2010 09:24:39 PM
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Not really
- 06/02/2010 10:46:52 PM
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Yes, really
- 06/02/2010 10:55:22 PM
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Re: Yes, really
- 06/02/2010 11:29:17 PM
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Re: Yes, really
- 06/02/2010 11:48:14 PM
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Re: Yes, really
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Re: Can you provide that quote?
- 06/02/2010 10:14:24 PM
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1 Blossom = 1 Weave ... there is nothing to say that each thread requires splitting flows
- 06/02/2010 10:48:11 PM
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Fine, I used the word weave when I should have used flow. 36 flows to create 12 weaves. *NM*
- 06/02/2010 10:57:09 PM
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IMO fighting with the Power has little to do with skill
- 06/02/2010 09:01:23 AM
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so you've learned nothing from Cyndane v. Alivia.
- 06/02/2010 05:45:19 PM
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It's a lone example contested by many other examples
- 07/02/2010 09:53:51 AM
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the only dueling where a channeler tries to overpower is Nynaeve v. Moghedien
- 07/02/2010 01:57:43 PM
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Re: the only dueling where a channeler tries to overpower is Nynaeve v. Moghedien
- 07/02/2010 04:25:57 PM
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from RJs lips to your ears ...
- 07/02/2010 06:55:27 PM
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Re: from RJs lips to your ears ...
- 07/02/2010 08:04:57 PM
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- 07/02/2010 08:04:57 PM
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Re: from RJs lips to your ears ...
- 07/02/2010 08:20:31 PM
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- 07/02/2010 08:20:31 PM
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... but I can't let this one go...
- 07/02/2010 11:09:04 PM
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Hmm...
- 07/02/2010 11:05:00 PM
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if you had points worth responding too I would ... as always you fall back on pretending you are RJ
- 07/02/2010 11:07:37 PM
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i.e. I back up my points by using RJ's written words and their validity irritates you *NM*
- 07/02/2010 11:11:55 PM
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- 07/02/2010 11:18:49 PM
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Yeah, what's a couple of fights with a Forsaken?
How's Egwene without her sa'angreal crutch?
- 05/02/2010 11:40:13 PM
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How's Egwene without her sa'angreal crutch?
- 05/02/2010 11:40:13 PM
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I disagree
- 06/02/2010 05:30:40 AM
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Egwene never even got into that fight and we are talking about Lanfear
- 06/02/2010 05:46:27 PM
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- 06/02/2010 08:23:20 PM
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she got hit with a pain weave before she did a damn thing
- 06/02/2010 09:21:11 PM
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On the whole Egwene vs. Nynaeve thing...
- 06/02/2010 10:43:43 PM
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Re: On the whole Egwene vs. Nynaeve thing...
- 06/02/2010 11:12:27 PM
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Re: On the whole Egwene vs. Nynaeve thing...
- 07/02/2010 08:02:40 AM
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but whoever wins
- 05/02/2010 04:54:52 AM
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*nods* That's cuz ...
- 05/02/2010 05:26:57 AM
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I actually think Lan would win
- 05/02/2010 04:57:24 PM
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Agreed
- 05/02/2010 08:22:26 PM
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If it was for "real" Lan wins, in practice ... Gawyn could be the superior *NM*
- 05/02/2010 09:43:20 PM
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I think Lan, hands down.
- 05/02/2010 03:30:20 PM
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THANK you.
- 05/02/2010 11:41:43 PM
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You forgot that the Warder Matched Lan A LONG time ago. Lan stopped sparring.
- 05/02/2010 08:42:49 PM
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According to the Theoryland database RJ apparently said once...
- 06/02/2010 08:55:50 AM
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Huh ....
- 06/02/2010 06:23:10 PM
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- 06/02/2010 06:28:15 PM
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If Gawyn is the best because he defeated two Warders, what about Rand?
- 06/02/2010 09:15:34 PM
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