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Right nossy Send a noteboard - 02/02/2012 06:24:14 PM
So this boils down to which can she afford to piss off. That seems to pretty much be a no-brainer. The ant-PP crowd will withdraw their support before they let any of their money go to PP. I doubt the pro-PP supporters will withhold their money simply because they are pissed. The math seems really easy on this one.

I think you're wrong on that doubt. There are many other cancer charities out there.

If she HAS to piss off one side, why piss off the group she did? Do we have proof that there is much more money coming from the pro-life crowd? The reality is that she's making the decision to cut funding to a group that does exactly what SGK needs to do - help women undergo screenings for breast cancer. The pro-life crowd gets nothing out of it other than to say they've helped stop abortions (yeah right). The pro-choice side would have kept the right to keep the choice open, but also still see money going to an organization that does something about breast cancer.

I suppose maybe they feel they can drop them because the people who need to use PP aren't donating money anyway?

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Susan G. Komen cuts funds to Planned Parenthood. (with updated edit) nossy - 02/02/2012 04:32:27 PM 2491 Views
The most annoying part is in the sixth paragraph- abortions are only a small part of their thing beetnemesis - 02/02/2012 05:08:07 PM 1362 Views
I agree. nossy - 02/02/2012 05:20:17 PM 1246 Views
I can understand it though. Sareitha Sedai - 02/02/2012 05:45:55 PM 1325 Views
I can too, it just isn't for me. nossy - 02/02/2012 05:58:33 PM 1249 Views
Actually, there are longer-acting forms of birth control than the pill. Dreaded Anomaly - 03/02/2012 12:37:42 AM 1238 Views
I do think that preventing abortions is their primary goal. Sareitha Sedai - 03/02/2012 01:08:05 AM 1198 Views
If they don't see that link, it's because they haven't looked. Dreaded Anomaly - 03/02/2012 02:42:42 AM 1316 Views
That is a little unfair. Joel - 03/02/2012 12:48:46 PM 1557 Views
Won't someone please think of the children?! Dreaded Anomaly - 04/02/2012 05:03:27 AM 1292 Views
I think you're leaving out some important points. nossy - 04/02/2012 03:40:48 PM 1206 Views
Ah, the good ol' silent majority. Dreaded Anomaly - 04/02/2012 07:32:29 PM 1219 Views
So which moron is feeding you this crap? Ray - 04/02/2012 10:27:15 PM 1251 Views
A zygote isn't a person, because it doesn't have a brain. Dreaded Anomaly - 05/02/2012 12:33:29 AM 1227 Views
It worries me when we think alike.... Joel - 05/02/2012 01:22:35 PM 1305 Views
Brain waves at 8 weeks are a myth. Dreaded Anomaly - 05/02/2012 08:46:06 PM 1383 Views
"brain function... appears to be reliably present in the fetus at about eight weeks' gestation." Joel - 05/02/2012 10:42:35 PM 1298 Views
Oh please. Dreaded Anomaly - 05/02/2012 11:13:50 PM 1248 Views
Re: Oh please yourself. Joel - 06/02/2012 09:15:26 PM 1109 Views
Quite a telling reply. Dreaded Anomaly - 07/02/2012 04:38:20 AM 1219 Views
Re: I quite agree. Joel - 08/02/2012 06:03:23 PM 1412 Views
You're taking an issue of objective facts and treating it like a day of playground gossip. Dreaded Anomaly - 09/02/2012 03:47:06 AM 1238 Views
No, your source, in which there is very little that is objective, did that for me. Joel - 11/02/2012 02:59:45 AM 1282 Views
I see you have continued to provide no factual arguments. Dreaded Anomaly - 14/02/2012 04:53:28 AM 1559 Views
I presented factual rebuttals. Joel - 19/02/2012 01:56:45 AM 1313 Views
You continue to miss the point. Dreaded Anomaly - 23/02/2012 10:22:24 PM 1398 Views
No, I got the point: You expect me to accept a heavily biased, partisan and combative "source." Joel - 07/03/2012 01:47:37 AM 1331 Views
The claim of brain waves at 8 weeks is still unsupported by evidence, i.e. a myth. Dreaded Anomaly - 15/03/2012 09:16:14 PM 1390 Views
Well, yes. nossy - 04/02/2012 11:14:47 PM 1345 Views
A silent majority may as well not exist, if it has no tangible effects. Dreaded Anomaly - 05/02/2012 12:54:34 AM 1216 Views
You ignoring it is not the same thing as it having no tangible effect. nossy - 05/02/2012 02:11:36 AM 1331 Views
Ignoring what? You haven't shown me anything solid. Dreaded Anomaly - 05/02/2012 05:25:23 AM 1219 Views
It's ok, we're done. *NM* nossy - 05/02/2012 09:29:05 AM 721 Views
Since few people oppose ADULT contraception access, that might be wise in this case. Joel - 04/02/2012 08:25:49 PM 1387 Views
Re: Since few people oppose ADULT contraception access, that might be wise in this case. Dreaded Anomaly - 05/02/2012 02:11:28 AM 1246 Views
If you are arguing most sex ed opponents are naïve/ignorant, I agree. Joel - 05/02/2012 08:42:17 AM 1074 Views
Re: If you are arguing most sex ed opponents are naïve/ignorant, I agree. Dreaded Anomaly - 05/02/2012 10:04:59 PM 1263 Views
Re: If you are arguing most sex ed opponents are naïve/ignorant, I agree. Joel - 06/02/2012 08:57:38 PM 1198 Views
I'm done discussing my use of the term "oppression." The Tim Ryan stuff is interesting, though. Dreaded Anomaly - 07/02/2012 05:37:05 AM 1334 Views
Yet, regrettably, not done misusing it. Joel - 08/02/2012 06:01:32 PM 1451 Views
Re: Yet, regrettably, not done misusing it. Dreaded Anomaly - 09/02/2012 05:30:58 AM 1288 Views
Re: Yet, regrettably, not done misusing it. Joel - 11/02/2012 02:58:00 AM 1312 Views
Re: Yet, regrettably, not done misusing it. Dreaded Anomaly - 14/02/2012 04:29:08 AM 1394 Views
Re: Yet, regrettably, not done misusing it. Joel - 19/02/2012 01:54:30 AM 1280 Views
Re: Yet, regrettably, not done misusing it. Dreaded Anomaly - 23/02/2012 10:59:32 PM 1607 Views
Re: Yet, regrettably, not done misusing it. Joel - 07/03/2012 01:47:44 AM 1273 Views
Re: Yet, regrettably, not done misusing it. Dreaded Anomaly - 15/03/2012 10:27:23 PM 1514 Views
There are problems with the implants LadyLorraine - 03/02/2012 01:42:55 AM 1275 Views
Any form of birth control doesn't work for everyone, though. Dreaded Anomaly - 03/02/2012 02:37:00 AM 1291 Views
Oh yes, I totally agree! My point is just that there are some barriers to handing out implants *NM* LadyLorraine - 03/02/2012 03:38:05 AM 602 Views
You have a talent for understatement. Joel - 03/02/2012 01:08:40 PM 1276 Views
What on earth does that have to do with anything? Cannoli - 03/02/2012 01:47:42 AM 1184 Views
I was actually kinda with you until you closed with that anathema I condemned in my response to rt. Joel - 03/02/2012 01:39:06 PM 1246 Views
I agree that they have made Beast Cancer a cult but splitting with PP is just smart Ray - 02/02/2012 05:39:49 PM 1435 Views
I agree. Sareitha Sedai - 02/02/2012 06:00:17 PM 1219 Views
yes she is going to have to piss off one group or the other Ray - 02/02/2012 06:12:31 PM 1262 Views
Right nossy - 02/02/2012 06:24:14 PM 1305 Views
it is a judgment call and I hope her decision is based on more than my guesses Ray - 02/02/2012 06:53:50 PM 1170 Views
Do you see a way Komen could have avoided pissing off one side? Sareitha Sedai - 02/02/2012 06:55:36 PM 1231 Views
No, I don't. I don't believe I said that? nossy - 02/02/2012 07:53:50 PM 1147 Views
You didn't; I inferred it from the way you phrased that ("if she HAS to..."). Sorry. Sareitha Sedai - 02/02/2012 08:06:11 PM 1274 Views
I know I'm not always clear. nossy - 02/02/2012 08:32:47 PM 1247 Views
Just curious... Narg - 02/02/2012 10:07:49 PM 1221 Views
Not at all. nossy - 02/02/2012 10:24:19 PM 1263 Views
Not at all? Narg - 02/02/2012 10:32:31 PM 1178 Views
No. nossy - 02/02/2012 10:47:04 PM 1114 Views
My argument is based on my belief that the pro-choice women are more dedicated to women's causes Ray - 02/02/2012 11:17:24 PM 1214 Views
Re: My argument is based on my belief that the pro-choice women are more dedicated to women's causes nossy - 03/02/2012 12:08:01 AM 1213 Views
wow that may be the worst advice I had in weeks Ray - 03/02/2012 12:13:18 AM 1204 Views
Ooor, the best. nossy - 03/02/2012 12:25:56 AM 1189 Views
ok now you are just being mean *NM* Ray - 03/02/2012 12:46:12 AM 714 Views
The thread was going too well - I thought we needed the meanness. *NM* nossy - 03/02/2012 11:30:39 AM 661 Views
rabble rouser *NM* Ray - 04/02/2012 04:24:01 AM 729 Views
I misread this at first Sareitha Sedai - 03/02/2012 12:51:44 AM 1225 Views
not to mention codeine seems to make me double post Ray - 02/02/2012 11:17:26 PM 2272 Views
I'm not so sure I agree. Or not completely. nossy - 02/02/2012 06:14:11 PM 1161 Views
I don't diagree with the way you see it Ray - 02/02/2012 06:39:41 PM 1237 Views
More inevitable than anything, considering who started Komen. Joel - 02/02/2012 10:19:34 PM 1185 Views
Never having heard of any of those except PP, my opinion may not be the most relevant... Legolas - 02/02/2012 08:32:48 PM 1283 Views
You don't know stuff. nossy - 02/02/2012 08:43:38 PM 1267 Views
I know the stuff that matters. Legolas - 02/02/2012 09:55:08 PM 1160 Views
That's true. nossy - 02/02/2012 10:34:32 PM 1271 Views
they may also be a afraid that PP will go the way of ACORN Ray - 02/02/2012 11:04:16 PM 1308 Views
"Accused" of = unfounded slander. Aeryn - 03/02/2012 12:13:30 AM 1349 Views
did you notice I called tactic disgusting? That doesn't mean it isn't effective Ray - 03/02/2012 12:45:10 AM 1269 Views
The investigation by Congress is well-known to be specious. It's the House GOP abusing their power. *NM* Dreaded Anomaly - 03/02/2012 12:41:58 AM 745 Views
This is so foreign a debate for me Lews_TherinThelamon - 02/02/2012 10:16:15 PM 1293 Views
Must be nice. *NM* nossy - 03/02/2012 12:26:49 AM 747 Views
Re: stuff rebelaessedai - 03/02/2012 09:18:53 AM 1161 Views
I'm sorry, but what're we talking about when we're talking about "cancer" LadyLorraine - 03/02/2012 12:49:34 PM 1223 Views
Obviously not adenocarcinoma, no. rebelaessedai - 04/02/2012 07:36:06 AM 1304 Views
I"m not that fussed. I'm just generally leary of research that has results like that LadyLorraine - 04/02/2012 08:35:04 PM 1159 Views
Fair enough. rebelaessedai - 04/02/2012 10:17:31 PM 1308 Views
Once I looked up Nancy Brinker at Wikipedia it all made sense. Joel - 02/02/2012 10:54:34 PM 1284 Views
Re: Once I looked up Nancy Brinker at Wikipedia it all made sense. nossy - 02/02/2012 11:03:32 PM 1156 Views
After a little more digging I have to say you are probably right. Joel - 03/02/2012 02:23:14 AM 1103 Views
They restored funding incidentally Isaac - 03/02/2012 05:43:47 PM 1183 Views
Unless I've missed it nossy - 03/02/2012 05:56:15 PM 1241 Views
You must have missed it then Isaac - 03/02/2012 07:07:13 PM 1189 Views
If you're referring to Cannoli nossy - 03/02/2012 07:19:25 PM 1352 Views
Multiple was not an accidental choice of words Isaac - 03/02/2012 11:46:30 PM 1211 Views
Then I agree that maybe this is not the thread for you. nossy - 04/02/2012 12:41:42 AM 1242 Views
Re: Then I agree that maybe this is not the thread for you. Isaac - 04/02/2012 01:53:25 AM 1451 Views
Well, I'll try again for both of us. nossy - 04/02/2012 02:56:42 PM 1279 Views
Re: Well, I'll try again for both of us. Isaac - 04/02/2012 07:40:25 PM 1234 Views
well at least there will not be any doubt about this being a political decision random thoughts - 03/02/2012 06:24:14 PM 1349 Views
Re: well at least there will not be any doubt about this being a political decision Isaac - 03/02/2012 06:29:34 PM 1139 Views
I think that ship sailed long ago. Joel - 03/02/2012 08:45:13 PM 1194 Views
Truth Dannymac - 04/02/2012 02:07:20 AM 1243 Views
I do wonder a bit which lawmakers Fox thinks "pressured" Komen. Joel - 03/02/2012 08:29:50 PM 1178 Views
Beyond the 26 senators, I'd imagine rumor of the more reliable sort Isaac - 03/02/2012 08:46:31 PM 1235 Views
Well, if they wrote AS senators rather than friends of Nancy Brinker, that probably qualifies. Joel - 03/02/2012 10:24:11 PM 1271 Views
Judge for yourself Isaac - 04/02/2012 12:01:06 AM 1296 Views
Well, a public letter makes whether they signed it "Sen. so-and-so" irrelevant: It is political. Joel - 04/02/2012 04:07:20 PM 1215 Views
are you trying to disprove the study you posted? random thoughts - 03/02/2012 09:20:12 PM 1339 Views
To me, it depends on the nature of the contact, which I have not dug enough to discover. Joel - 03/02/2012 10:43:45 PM 1175 Views
you admit you have no incite into what happened Ray - 04/02/2012 04:27:17 AM 1249 Views
Actually, it looks like Komens new VP (and former GOP GA gubernatorial candidate) had the incite. Joel - 04/02/2012 04:24:14 PM 1280 Views
educated guess don't work when you are tinfoil hat wearing kool-aid drinker Ray - 04/02/2012 09:33:49 PM 1208 Views
Dude. nossy - 04/02/2012 11:20:49 PM 1092 Views
Yo mama? Joel - 05/02/2012 05:32:11 AM 1282 Views
whhhhhhyyyyyy nossy - 04/02/2012 11:23:58 PM 1268 Views
Why would I not think that? Joel - 05/02/2012 05:46:15 AM 1114 Views
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