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Just curious... Narg Send a noteboard - 02/02/2012 10:07:49 PM
Are you saying that you think the pro-lifers are the kind of people that wouldn't donate much to combat breast cancer anyway, so it may not have hurt the charity to stick with planned parenthood?

Could be that a lot of people think more about it than they ever have. I think one thing Komen's got going for it that a lot of other cancer charities (heck, charities in general) don't is how easy it is to give them money. And how dissociated giving is from the organization...what I mean is that I could see people deciding not to mail them a check because of this, but I can't see someone telling their survivor aunt that they're not going to sponsor her in the 3-Day because Komen no longer funds PP. I suppose how affected they are by this will depend on which kind of giving they rely on more.

I can agree with the last bit particularly. I had thought about that - I'm not sure I would have tried to tell my aunt that I didn't want to walk with her because of my politics.

Bottom line, I agree with your article that this is more likely to hurt Komen than PP. Ideally (to me) it won't hurt either.

It's depressing that it has to hurt either. I still am not convinced that there is more money to come from pro-lifers who also don't recognize the importance of PP (as I'm sure there is some gray area for anyone who has actually come across the reality of needing their help), but I can see that new pro-lifers and exising pro-choicers may still donate enough to bring in an overall benefit.
A little learning is a dangerous thing.
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Susan G. Komen cuts funds to Planned Parenthood. (with updated edit) nossy - 02/02/2012 04:32:27 PM 2284 Views
The most annoying part is in the sixth paragraph- abortions are only a small part of their thing beetnemesis - 02/02/2012 05:08:07 PM 1191 Views
I agree. nossy - 02/02/2012 05:20:17 PM 1086 Views
I can understand it though. Sareitha Sedai - 02/02/2012 05:45:55 PM 1148 Views
I can too, it just isn't for me. nossy - 02/02/2012 05:58:33 PM 1065 Views
Actually, there are longer-acting forms of birth control than the pill. Dreaded Anomaly - 03/02/2012 12:37:42 AM 1072 Views
I do think that preventing abortions is their primary goal. Sareitha Sedai - 03/02/2012 01:08:05 AM 1033 Views
If they don't see that link, it's because they haven't looked. Dreaded Anomaly - 03/02/2012 02:42:42 AM 1124 Views
That is a little unfair. Joel - 03/02/2012 12:48:46 PM 1335 Views
Won't someone please think of the children?! Dreaded Anomaly - 04/02/2012 05:03:27 AM 1116 Views
I think you're leaving out some important points. nossy - 04/02/2012 03:40:48 PM 1054 Views
Ah, the good ol' silent majority. Dreaded Anomaly - 04/02/2012 07:32:29 PM 1035 Views
So which moron is feeding you this crap? Ray - 04/02/2012 10:27:15 PM 1081 Views
A zygote isn't a person, because it doesn't have a brain. Dreaded Anomaly - 05/02/2012 12:33:29 AM 1057 Views
It worries me when we think alike.... Joel - 05/02/2012 01:22:35 PM 1106 Views
Brain waves at 8 weeks are a myth. Dreaded Anomaly - 05/02/2012 08:46:06 PM 1198 Views
"brain function... appears to be reliably present in the fetus at about eight weeks' gestation." Joel - 05/02/2012 10:42:35 PM 1111 Views
Oh please. Dreaded Anomaly - 05/02/2012 11:13:50 PM 1071 Views
Re: Oh please yourself. Joel - 06/02/2012 09:15:26 PM 946 Views
Quite a telling reply. Dreaded Anomaly - 07/02/2012 04:38:20 AM 1028 Views
Re: I quite agree. Joel - 08/02/2012 06:03:23 PM 1233 Views
You're taking an issue of objective facts and treating it like a day of playground gossip. Dreaded Anomaly - 09/02/2012 03:47:06 AM 1046 Views
No, your source, in which there is very little that is objective, did that for me. Joel - 11/02/2012 02:59:45 AM 1088 Views
I see you have continued to provide no factual arguments. Dreaded Anomaly - 14/02/2012 04:53:28 AM 1341 Views
I presented factual rebuttals. Joel - 19/02/2012 01:56:45 AM 1140 Views
You continue to miss the point. Dreaded Anomaly - 23/02/2012 10:22:24 PM 1201 Views
No, I got the point: You expect me to accept a heavily biased, partisan and combative "source." Joel - 07/03/2012 01:47:37 AM 1128 Views
The claim of brain waves at 8 weeks is still unsupported by evidence, i.e. a myth. Dreaded Anomaly - 15/03/2012 09:16:14 PM 1158 Views
Well, yes. nossy - 04/02/2012 11:14:47 PM 1117 Views
A silent majority may as well not exist, if it has no tangible effects. Dreaded Anomaly - 05/02/2012 12:54:34 AM 1065 Views
You ignoring it is not the same thing as it having no tangible effect. nossy - 05/02/2012 02:11:36 AM 1157 Views
Ignoring what? You haven't shown me anything solid. Dreaded Anomaly - 05/02/2012 05:25:23 AM 1063 Views
It's ok, we're done. *NM* nossy - 05/02/2012 09:29:05 AM 629 Views
Since few people oppose ADULT contraception access, that might be wise in this case. Joel - 04/02/2012 08:25:49 PM 1192 Views
Re: Since few people oppose ADULT contraception access, that might be wise in this case. Dreaded Anomaly - 05/02/2012 02:11:28 AM 1037 Views
If you are arguing most sex ed opponents are naïve/ignorant, I agree. Joel - 05/02/2012 08:42:17 AM 909 Views
Re: If you are arguing most sex ed opponents are naïve/ignorant, I agree. Dreaded Anomaly - 05/02/2012 10:04:59 PM 1083 Views
Re: If you are arguing most sex ed opponents are naïve/ignorant, I agree. Joel - 06/02/2012 08:57:38 PM 1027 Views
I'm done discussing my use of the term "oppression." The Tim Ryan stuff is interesting, though. Dreaded Anomaly - 07/02/2012 05:37:05 AM 1153 Views
Yet, regrettably, not done misusing it. Joel - 08/02/2012 06:01:32 PM 1243 Views
Re: Yet, regrettably, not done misusing it. Dreaded Anomaly - 09/02/2012 05:30:58 AM 1103 Views
Re: Yet, regrettably, not done misusing it. Joel - 11/02/2012 02:58:00 AM 1126 Views
Re: Yet, regrettably, not done misusing it. Dreaded Anomaly - 14/02/2012 04:29:08 AM 1199 Views
Re: Yet, regrettably, not done misusing it. Joel - 19/02/2012 01:54:30 AM 1106 Views
Re: Yet, regrettably, not done misusing it. Dreaded Anomaly - 23/02/2012 10:59:32 PM 1408 Views
Re: Yet, regrettably, not done misusing it. Joel - 07/03/2012 01:47:44 AM 1069 Views
Re: Yet, regrettably, not done misusing it. Dreaded Anomaly - 15/03/2012 10:27:23 PM 1322 Views
There are problems with the implants LadyLorraine - 03/02/2012 01:42:55 AM 1090 Views
Any form of birth control doesn't work for everyone, though. Dreaded Anomaly - 03/02/2012 02:37:00 AM 1107 Views
Oh yes, I totally agree! My point is just that there are some barriers to handing out implants *NM* LadyLorraine - 03/02/2012 03:38:05 AM 508 Views
You have a talent for understatement. Joel - 03/02/2012 01:08:40 PM 1074 Views
What on earth does that have to do with anything? Cannoli - 03/02/2012 01:47:42 AM 1015 Views
I was actually kinda with you until you closed with that anathema I condemned in my response to rt. Joel - 03/02/2012 01:39:06 PM 1053 Views
I agree that they have made Beast Cancer a cult but splitting with PP is just smart Ray - 02/02/2012 05:39:49 PM 1229 Views
I agree. Sareitha Sedai - 02/02/2012 06:00:17 PM 1001 Views
yes she is going to have to piss off one group or the other Ray - 02/02/2012 06:12:31 PM 1068 Views
Right nossy - 02/02/2012 06:24:14 PM 1130 Views
it is a judgment call and I hope her decision is based on more than my guesses Ray - 02/02/2012 06:53:50 PM 986 Views
Do you see a way Komen could have avoided pissing off one side? Sareitha Sedai - 02/02/2012 06:55:36 PM 1062 Views
No, I don't. I don't believe I said that? nossy - 02/02/2012 07:53:50 PM 979 Views
You didn't; I inferred it from the way you phrased that ("if she HAS to..."). Sorry. Sareitha Sedai - 02/02/2012 08:06:11 PM 1049 Views
I know I'm not always clear. nossy - 02/02/2012 08:32:47 PM 1055 Views
Just curious... Narg - 02/02/2012 10:07:49 PM 1039 Views
Not at all. nossy - 02/02/2012 10:24:19 PM 1107 Views
Not at all? Narg - 02/02/2012 10:32:31 PM 993 Views
No. nossy - 02/02/2012 10:47:04 PM 954 Views
My argument is based on my belief that the pro-choice women are more dedicated to women's causes Ray - 02/02/2012 11:17:24 PM 1050 Views
Re: My argument is based on my belief that the pro-choice women are more dedicated to women's causes nossy - 03/02/2012 12:08:01 AM 1044 Views
wow that may be the worst advice I had in weeks Ray - 03/02/2012 12:13:18 AM 1028 Views
Ooor, the best. nossy - 03/02/2012 12:25:56 AM 999 Views
ok now you are just being mean *NM* Ray - 03/02/2012 12:46:12 AM 622 Views
The thread was going too well - I thought we needed the meanness. *NM* nossy - 03/02/2012 11:30:39 AM 573 Views
rabble rouser *NM* Ray - 04/02/2012 04:24:01 AM 632 Views
I misread this at first Sareitha Sedai - 03/02/2012 12:51:44 AM 1050 Views
not to mention codeine seems to make me double post Ray - 02/02/2012 11:17:26 PM 2099 Views
I'm not so sure I agree. Or not completely. nossy - 02/02/2012 06:14:11 PM 990 Views
I don't diagree with the way you see it Ray - 02/02/2012 06:39:41 PM 1055 Views
More inevitable than anything, considering who started Komen. Joel - 02/02/2012 10:19:34 PM 1005 Views
Never having heard of any of those except PP, my opinion may not be the most relevant... Legolas - 02/02/2012 08:32:48 PM 1114 Views
You don't know stuff. nossy - 02/02/2012 08:43:38 PM 1082 Views
I know the stuff that matters. Legolas - 02/02/2012 09:55:08 PM 986 Views
That's true. nossy - 02/02/2012 10:34:32 PM 1090 Views
they may also be a afraid that PP will go the way of ACORN Ray - 02/02/2012 11:04:16 PM 1134 Views
"Accused" of = unfounded slander. Aeryn - 03/02/2012 12:13:30 AM 1161 Views
did you notice I called tactic disgusting? That doesn't mean it isn't effective Ray - 03/02/2012 12:45:10 AM 1084 Views
The investigation by Congress is well-known to be specious. It's the House GOP abusing their power. *NM* Dreaded Anomaly - 03/02/2012 12:41:58 AM 677 Views
This is so foreign a debate for me Lews_TherinThelamon - 02/02/2012 10:16:15 PM 1106 Views
Must be nice. *NM* nossy - 03/02/2012 12:26:49 AM 679 Views
Re: stuff rebelaessedai - 03/02/2012 09:18:53 AM 1007 Views
I'm sorry, but what're we talking about when we're talking about "cancer" LadyLorraine - 03/02/2012 12:49:34 PM 1039 Views
Obviously not adenocarcinoma, no. rebelaessedai - 04/02/2012 07:36:06 AM 1057 Views
I"m not that fussed. I'm just generally leary of research that has results like that LadyLorraine - 04/02/2012 08:35:04 PM 997 Views
Fair enough. rebelaessedai - 04/02/2012 10:17:31 PM 1056 Views
Once I looked up Nancy Brinker at Wikipedia it all made sense. Joel - 02/02/2012 10:54:34 PM 1092 Views
Re: Once I looked up Nancy Brinker at Wikipedia it all made sense. nossy - 02/02/2012 11:03:32 PM 1001 Views
After a little more digging I have to say you are probably right. Joel - 03/02/2012 02:23:14 AM 944 Views
They restored funding incidentally Isaac - 03/02/2012 05:43:47 PM 996 Views
Unless I've missed it nossy - 03/02/2012 05:56:15 PM 1066 Views
You must have missed it then Isaac - 03/02/2012 07:07:13 PM 992 Views
If you're referring to Cannoli nossy - 03/02/2012 07:19:25 PM 1149 Views
Multiple was not an accidental choice of words Isaac - 03/02/2012 11:46:30 PM 1036 Views
Then I agree that maybe this is not the thread for you. nossy - 04/02/2012 12:41:42 AM 1056 Views
Re: Then I agree that maybe this is not the thread for you. Isaac - 04/02/2012 01:53:25 AM 1251 Views
Well, I'll try again for both of us. nossy - 04/02/2012 02:56:42 PM 1074 Views
Re: Well, I'll try again for both of us. Isaac - 04/02/2012 07:40:25 PM 1039 Views
well at least there will not be any doubt about this being a political decision random thoughts - 03/02/2012 06:24:14 PM 1179 Views
Re: well at least there will not be any doubt about this being a political decision Isaac - 03/02/2012 06:29:34 PM 958 Views
I think that ship sailed long ago. Joel - 03/02/2012 08:45:13 PM 992 Views
Truth Dannymac - 04/02/2012 02:07:20 AM 1098 Views
I do wonder a bit which lawmakers Fox thinks "pressured" Komen. Joel - 03/02/2012 08:29:50 PM 996 Views
Beyond the 26 senators, I'd imagine rumor of the more reliable sort Isaac - 03/02/2012 08:46:31 PM 1051 Views
Well, if they wrote AS senators rather than friends of Nancy Brinker, that probably qualifies. Joel - 03/02/2012 10:24:11 PM 1104 Views
Judge for yourself Isaac - 04/02/2012 12:01:06 AM 1111 Views
Well, a public letter makes whether they signed it "Sen. so-and-so" irrelevant: It is political. Joel - 04/02/2012 04:07:20 PM 1034 Views
are you trying to disprove the study you posted? random thoughts - 03/02/2012 09:20:12 PM 1126 Views
To me, it depends on the nature of the contact, which I have not dug enough to discover. Joel - 03/02/2012 10:43:45 PM 1019 Views
you admit you have no incite into what happened Ray - 04/02/2012 04:27:17 AM 1051 Views
Actually, it looks like Komens new VP (and former GOP GA gubernatorial candidate) had the incite. Joel - 04/02/2012 04:24:14 PM 1085 Views
educated guess don't work when you are tinfoil hat wearing kool-aid drinker Ray - 04/02/2012 09:33:49 PM 998 Views
Dude. nossy - 04/02/2012 11:20:49 PM 919 Views
Yo mama? Joel - 05/02/2012 05:32:11 AM 1090 Views
whhhhhhyyyyyy nossy - 04/02/2012 11:23:58 PM 1078 Views
Why would I not think that? Joel - 05/02/2012 05:46:15 AM 945 Views
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