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They restored funding incidentally Isaac Send a noteboard - 03/02/2012 05:43:47 PM
I don't want jack to do with this thread but I figured I'd give a news up date. My only comment on that is that I am more than a touch bothered and/or upset that it's basically taken as a given that the reversal is a result of mounting pressure by lawmakers and pro-choice groups. So add in here a touch of warning to everyone about the costs of politicizing any given charity group and a note that should you be considering donations between two apparently equal options for charitable contributions in terms of your money and most definitely your time, you may want to choose the less political of the two. And that you should always be very careful about politicizing anything you don't have to, it always invites jackals through one door or another.

Speaking as a very ardent pro-lifer and no fan of PP, I have no personal objections to Komen resuming funding for breast cancer screening through them, anymore then I'd have issues if they were funding screenings through a neo-nazi front group, so long as the money is clearly and transparently not going to assist in any tangible fashion a given specific action I object to. I've also got no beef with anyone who declines to donate money to an organization which they feel is either doing something they disapprove of or aiding someone who does, even if it's simply by letting them enhance their image as decent people by hosting it. I also feel obliged to mention that I don't think buying the pink bucket of fried chicken really grants a lot of moral license to condemn or condone this groups actions, and I really don't think any elected officials had much business speaking up on the subject. And to rub some final salt in the wound, I don't think what a charitable organization does or does not do is a particularly good reason to start up a debate about the ethics of abortion, if you want to do that, open a thread on it.
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Susan G. Komen cuts funds to Planned Parenthood. (with updated edit) - 02/02/2012 04:32:27 PM 2594 Views
The most annoying part is in the sixth paragraph- abortions are only a small part of their thing - 02/02/2012 05:08:07 PM 1453 Views
I agree. - 02/02/2012 05:20:17 PM 1325 Views
I can understand it though. - 02/02/2012 05:45:55 PM 1421 Views
I can too, it just isn't for me. - 02/02/2012 05:58:33 PM 1349 Views
Actually, there are longer-acting forms of birth control than the pill. - 03/02/2012 12:37:42 AM 1327 Views
I do think that preventing abortions is their primary goal. - 03/02/2012 01:08:05 AM 1324 Views
If they don't see that link, it's because they haven't looked. - 03/02/2012 02:42:42 AM 1405 Views
That is a little unfair. - 03/02/2012 12:48:46 PM 1663 Views
Won't someone please think of the children?! - 04/02/2012 05:03:27 AM 1401 Views
I think you're leaving out some important points. - 04/02/2012 03:40:48 PM 1292 Views
Ah, the good ol' silent majority. - 04/02/2012 07:32:29 PM 1311 Views
So which moron is feeding you this crap? - 04/02/2012 10:27:15 PM 1344 Views
A zygote isn't a person, because it doesn't have a brain. - 05/02/2012 12:33:29 AM 1320 Views
It worries me when we think alike.... - 05/02/2012 01:22:35 PM 1413 Views
Brain waves at 8 weeks are a myth. - 05/02/2012 08:46:06 PM 1465 Views
"brain function... appears to be reliably present in the fetus at about eight weeks' gestation." - 05/02/2012 10:42:35 PM 1403 Views
Oh please. - 05/02/2012 11:13:50 PM 1351 Views
Re: Oh please yourself. - 06/02/2012 09:15:26 PM 1228 Views
Quite a telling reply. - 07/02/2012 04:38:20 AM 1327 Views
Re: I quite agree. - 08/02/2012 06:03:23 PM 1503 Views
You're taking an issue of objective facts and treating it like a day of playground gossip. - 09/02/2012 03:47:06 AM 1334 Views
No, your source, in which there is very little that is objective, did that for me. - 11/02/2012 02:59:45 AM 1364 Views
I see you have continued to provide no factual arguments. - 14/02/2012 04:53:28 AM 1654 Views
I presented factual rebuttals. - 19/02/2012 01:56:45 AM 1408 Views
You continue to miss the point. - 23/02/2012 10:22:24 PM 1496 Views
Well, yes. - 04/02/2012 11:14:47 PM 1436 Views
A silent majority may as well not exist, if it has no tangible effects. - 05/02/2012 12:54:34 AM 1309 Views
You ignoring it is not the same thing as it having no tangible effect. - 05/02/2012 02:11:36 AM 1417 Views
Ignoring what? You haven't shown me anything solid. - 05/02/2012 05:25:23 AM 1305 Views
It's ok, we're done. *NM* - 05/02/2012 09:29:05 AM 774 Views
Since few people oppose ADULT contraception access, that might be wise in this case. - 04/02/2012 08:25:49 PM 1476 Views
Re: Since few people oppose ADULT contraception access, that might be wise in this case. - 05/02/2012 02:11:28 AM 1336 Views
If you are arguing most sex ed opponents are naïve/ignorant, I agree. - 05/02/2012 08:42:17 AM 1163 Views
Re: If you are arguing most sex ed opponents are naïve/ignorant, I agree. - 05/02/2012 10:04:59 PM 1360 Views
Re: If you are arguing most sex ed opponents are naïve/ignorant, I agree. - 06/02/2012 08:57:38 PM 1295 Views
I'm done discussing my use of the term "oppression." The Tim Ryan stuff is interesting, though. - 07/02/2012 05:37:05 AM 1432 Views
Yet, regrettably, not done misusing it. - 08/02/2012 06:01:32 PM 1541 Views
Re: Yet, regrettably, not done misusing it. - 09/02/2012 05:30:58 AM 1387 Views
Re: Yet, regrettably, not done misusing it. - 11/02/2012 02:58:00 AM 1392 Views
Re: Yet, regrettably, not done misusing it. - 14/02/2012 04:29:08 AM 1484 Views
Re: Yet, regrettably, not done misusing it. - 19/02/2012 01:54:30 AM 1381 Views
Re: Yet, regrettably, not done misusing it. - 23/02/2012 10:59:32 PM 1707 Views
Re: Yet, regrettably, not done misusing it. - 07/03/2012 01:47:44 AM 1373 Views
Re: Yet, regrettably, not done misusing it. - 15/03/2012 10:27:23 PM 1607 Views
There are problems with the implants - 03/02/2012 01:42:55 AM 1368 Views
You have a talent for understatement. - 03/02/2012 01:08:40 PM 1391 Views
I agree that they have made Beast Cancer a cult but splitting with PP is just smart - 02/02/2012 05:39:49 PM 1527 Views
I agree. - 02/02/2012 06:00:17 PM 1304 Views
yes she is going to have to piss off one group or the other - 02/02/2012 06:12:31 PM 1349 Views
Right - 02/02/2012 06:24:14 PM 1398 Views
Do you see a way Komen could have avoided pissing off one side? - 02/02/2012 06:55:36 PM 1315 Views
No, I don't. I don't believe I said that? - 02/02/2012 07:53:50 PM 1235 Views
You didn't; I inferred it from the way you phrased that ("if she HAS to..."). Sorry. - 02/02/2012 08:06:11 PM 1397 Views
I know I'm not always clear. - 02/02/2012 08:32:47 PM 1327 Views
Just curious... - 02/02/2012 10:07:49 PM 1318 Views
Not at all. - 02/02/2012 10:24:19 PM 1355 Views
Not at all? - 02/02/2012 10:32:31 PM 1272 Views
No. - 02/02/2012 10:47:04 PM 1208 Views
My argument is based on my belief that the pro-choice women are more dedicated to women's causes - 02/02/2012 11:17:24 PM 1291 Views
Re: My argument is based on my belief that the pro-choice women are more dedicated to women's causes - 03/02/2012 12:08:01 AM 1300 Views
wow that may be the worst advice I had in weeks - 03/02/2012 12:13:18 AM 1294 Views
Ooor, the best. - 03/02/2012 12:25:56 AM 1279 Views
ok now you are just being mean *NM* - 03/02/2012 12:46:12 AM 776 Views
The thread was going too well - I thought we needed the meanness. *NM* - 03/02/2012 11:30:39 AM 712 Views
rabble rouser *NM* - 04/02/2012 04:24:01 AM 781 Views
I misread this at first - 03/02/2012 12:51:44 AM 1312 Views
not to mention codeine seems to make me double post - 02/02/2012 11:17:26 PM 2354 Views
I'm not so sure I agree. Or not completely. - 02/02/2012 06:14:11 PM 1264 Views
I don't diagree with the way you see it - 02/02/2012 06:39:41 PM 1318 Views
More inevitable than anything, considering who started Komen. - 02/02/2012 10:19:34 PM 1311 Views
Never having heard of any of those except PP, my opinion may not be the most relevant... - 02/02/2012 08:32:48 PM 1374 Views
You don't know stuff. - 02/02/2012 08:43:38 PM 1355 Views
I know the stuff that matters. - 02/02/2012 09:55:08 PM 1246 Views
That's true. - 02/02/2012 10:34:32 PM 1364 Views
they may also be a afraid that PP will go the way of ACORN - 02/02/2012 11:04:16 PM 1411 Views
"Accused" of = unfounded slander. - 03/02/2012 12:13:30 AM 1436 Views
This is so foreign a debate for me - 02/02/2012 10:16:15 PM 1376 Views
Must be nice. *NM* - 03/02/2012 12:26:49 AM 793 Views
Re: stuff - 03/02/2012 09:18:53 AM 1251 Views
I'm sorry, but what're we talking about when we're talking about "cancer" - 03/02/2012 12:49:34 PM 1309 Views
Obviously not adenocarcinoma, no. - 04/02/2012 07:36:06 AM 1406 Views
I"m not that fussed. I'm just generally leary of research that has results like that - 04/02/2012 08:35:04 PM 1255 Views
Fair enough. - 04/02/2012 10:17:31 PM 1407 Views
They restored funding incidentally - 03/02/2012 05:43:47 PM 1308 Views
Unless I've missed it - 03/02/2012 05:56:15 PM 1344 Views
You must have missed it then - 03/02/2012 07:07:13 PM 1280 Views
If you're referring to Cannoli - 03/02/2012 07:19:25 PM 1441 Views
Multiple was not an accidental choice of words - 03/02/2012 11:46:30 PM 1297 Views
Then I agree that maybe this is not the thread for you. - 04/02/2012 12:41:42 AM 1343 Views
Re: Then I agree that maybe this is not the thread for you. - 04/02/2012 01:53:25 AM 1533 Views
Well, I'll try again for both of us. - 04/02/2012 02:56:42 PM 1371 Views
Re: Well, I'll try again for both of us. - 04/02/2012 07:40:25 PM 1323 Views
well at least there will not be any doubt about this being a political decision - 03/02/2012 06:24:14 PM 1431 Views
I think that ship sailed long ago. - 03/02/2012 08:45:13 PM 1277 Views
Truth - 04/02/2012 02:07:20 AM 1332 Views
I do wonder a bit which lawmakers Fox thinks "pressured" Komen. - 03/02/2012 08:29:50 PM 1265 Views
are you trying to disprove the study you posted? - 03/02/2012 09:20:12 PM 1439 Views
To me, it depends on the nature of the contact, which I have not dug enough to discover. - 03/02/2012 10:43:45 PM 1265 Views
you admit you have no incite into what happened - 04/02/2012 04:27:17 AM 1342 Views
Actually, it looks like Komens new VP (and former GOP GA gubernatorial candidate) had the incite. - 04/02/2012 04:24:14 PM 1378 Views
educated guess don't work when you are tinfoil hat wearing kool-aid drinker - 04/02/2012 09:33:49 PM 1295 Views
Dude. - 04/02/2012 11:20:49 PM 1183 Views
Yo mama? - 05/02/2012 05:32:11 AM 1364 Views
whhhhhhyyyyyy - 04/02/2012 11:23:58 PM 1345 Views
Why would I not think that? - 05/02/2012 05:46:15 AM 1205 Views

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