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A silent majority may as well not exist, if it has no tangible effects. Dreaded Anomaly Send a noteboard - 05/02/2012 12:54:34 AM
You haven't offered any real evidence in rebuttal. In response to actual observations about the behavior of the "pro-life" movement, all you have is speculation about how things might be different, with nothing to back it up. One does not have to make any special effort to see how the "pro-life" movement behaves; just read the news and see how they act. Apparently, though, a special effort is required to understand what that behavior implies about the character of the movement.

The question is not what some hypothetical "pro-life" person whom you've constructed in your head does or doesn't do. There is an organized movement for this cause, and it does not act in the ways it should act if its stated goals were its actual goals.

There is no coherent definition of personhood which includes zygotes, or even most pre-third trimester fetuses. Persons are intelligent, self-aware beings; this requires higher brain function.
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Susan G. Komen cuts funds to Planned Parenthood. (with updated edit) - 02/02/2012 04:32:27 PM 2284 Views
The most annoying part is in the sixth paragraph- abortions are only a small part of their thing - 02/02/2012 05:08:07 PM 1190 Views
I agree. - 02/02/2012 05:20:17 PM 1085 Views
I can understand it though. - 02/02/2012 05:45:55 PM 1147 Views
I can too, it just isn't for me. - 02/02/2012 05:58:33 PM 1065 Views
Actually, there are longer-acting forms of birth control than the pill. - 03/02/2012 12:37:42 AM 1071 Views
I do think that preventing abortions is their primary goal. - 03/02/2012 01:08:05 AM 1032 Views
If they don't see that link, it's because they haven't looked. - 03/02/2012 02:42:42 AM 1124 Views
That is a little unfair. - 03/02/2012 12:48:46 PM 1335 Views
Won't someone please think of the children?! - 04/02/2012 05:03:27 AM 1116 Views
I think you're leaving out some important points. - 04/02/2012 03:40:48 PM 1053 Views
Ah, the good ol' silent majority. - 04/02/2012 07:32:29 PM 1035 Views
So which moron is feeding you this crap? - 04/02/2012 10:27:15 PM 1081 Views
A zygote isn't a person, because it doesn't have a brain. - 05/02/2012 12:33:29 AM 1056 Views
It worries me when we think alike.... - 05/02/2012 01:22:35 PM 1106 Views
Brain waves at 8 weeks are a myth. - 05/02/2012 08:46:06 PM 1197 Views
"brain function... appears to be reliably present in the fetus at about eight weeks' gestation." - 05/02/2012 10:42:35 PM 1110 Views
Oh please. - 05/02/2012 11:13:50 PM 1071 Views
Re: Oh please yourself. - 06/02/2012 09:15:26 PM 946 Views
Quite a telling reply. - 07/02/2012 04:38:20 AM 1027 Views
Re: I quite agree. - 08/02/2012 06:03:23 PM 1233 Views
You're taking an issue of objective facts and treating it like a day of playground gossip. - 09/02/2012 03:47:06 AM 1045 Views
No, your source, in which there is very little that is objective, did that for me. - 11/02/2012 02:59:45 AM 1087 Views
I see you have continued to provide no factual arguments. - 14/02/2012 04:53:28 AM 1340 Views
I presented factual rebuttals. - 19/02/2012 01:56:45 AM 1140 Views
You continue to miss the point. - 23/02/2012 10:22:24 PM 1200 Views
Well, yes. - 04/02/2012 11:14:47 PM 1117 Views
A silent majority may as well not exist, if it has no tangible effects. - 05/02/2012 12:54:34 AM 1065 Views
You ignoring it is not the same thing as it having no tangible effect. - 05/02/2012 02:11:36 AM 1156 Views
Ignoring what? You haven't shown me anything solid. - 05/02/2012 05:25:23 AM 1062 Views
It's ok, we're done. *NM* - 05/02/2012 09:29:05 AM 629 Views
Since few people oppose ADULT contraception access, that might be wise in this case. - 04/02/2012 08:25:49 PM 1192 Views
Re: Since few people oppose ADULT contraception access, that might be wise in this case. - 05/02/2012 02:11:28 AM 1037 Views
If you are arguing most sex ed opponents are naïve/ignorant, I agree. - 05/02/2012 08:42:17 AM 909 Views
Re: If you are arguing most sex ed opponents are naïve/ignorant, I agree. - 05/02/2012 10:04:59 PM 1082 Views
Re: If you are arguing most sex ed opponents are naïve/ignorant, I agree. - 06/02/2012 08:57:38 PM 1027 Views
I'm done discussing my use of the term "oppression." The Tim Ryan stuff is interesting, though. - 07/02/2012 05:37:05 AM 1152 Views
Yet, regrettably, not done misusing it. - 08/02/2012 06:01:32 PM 1243 Views
Re: Yet, regrettably, not done misusing it. - 09/02/2012 05:30:58 AM 1102 Views
Re: Yet, regrettably, not done misusing it. - 11/02/2012 02:58:00 AM 1125 Views
Re: Yet, regrettably, not done misusing it. - 14/02/2012 04:29:08 AM 1198 Views
Re: Yet, regrettably, not done misusing it. - 19/02/2012 01:54:30 AM 1105 Views
Re: Yet, regrettably, not done misusing it. - 23/02/2012 10:59:32 PM 1407 Views
Re: Yet, regrettably, not done misusing it. - 07/03/2012 01:47:44 AM 1069 Views
Re: Yet, regrettably, not done misusing it. - 15/03/2012 10:27:23 PM 1321 Views
There are problems with the implants - 03/02/2012 01:42:55 AM 1089 Views
You have a talent for understatement. - 03/02/2012 01:08:40 PM 1074 Views
I agree that they have made Beast Cancer a cult but splitting with PP is just smart - 02/02/2012 05:39:49 PM 1228 Views
I agree. - 02/02/2012 06:00:17 PM 1000 Views
yes she is going to have to piss off one group or the other - 02/02/2012 06:12:31 PM 1067 Views
Right - 02/02/2012 06:24:14 PM 1130 Views
Do you see a way Komen could have avoided pissing off one side? - 02/02/2012 06:55:36 PM 1061 Views
No, I don't. I don't believe I said that? - 02/02/2012 07:53:50 PM 979 Views
You didn't; I inferred it from the way you phrased that ("if she HAS to..."). Sorry. - 02/02/2012 08:06:11 PM 1049 Views
I know I'm not always clear. - 02/02/2012 08:32:47 PM 1055 Views
Just curious... - 02/02/2012 10:07:49 PM 1038 Views
Not at all. - 02/02/2012 10:24:19 PM 1106 Views
Not at all? - 02/02/2012 10:32:31 PM 993 Views
No. - 02/02/2012 10:47:04 PM 953 Views
My argument is based on my belief that the pro-choice women are more dedicated to women's causes - 02/02/2012 11:17:24 PM 1049 Views
Re: My argument is based on my belief that the pro-choice women are more dedicated to women's causes - 03/02/2012 12:08:01 AM 1044 Views
wow that may be the worst advice I had in weeks - 03/02/2012 12:13:18 AM 1028 Views
Ooor, the best. - 03/02/2012 12:25:56 AM 998 Views
ok now you are just being mean *NM* - 03/02/2012 12:46:12 AM 622 Views
The thread was going too well - I thought we needed the meanness. *NM* - 03/02/2012 11:30:39 AM 573 Views
rabble rouser *NM* - 04/02/2012 04:24:01 AM 632 Views
I misread this at first - 03/02/2012 12:51:44 AM 1050 Views
not to mention codeine seems to make me double post - 02/02/2012 11:17:26 PM 2099 Views
I'm not so sure I agree. Or not completely. - 02/02/2012 06:14:11 PM 990 Views
I don't diagree with the way you see it - 02/02/2012 06:39:41 PM 1055 Views
More inevitable than anything, considering who started Komen. - 02/02/2012 10:19:34 PM 1004 Views
Never having heard of any of those except PP, my opinion may not be the most relevant... - 02/02/2012 08:32:48 PM 1113 Views
You don't know stuff. - 02/02/2012 08:43:38 PM 1080 Views
I know the stuff that matters. - 02/02/2012 09:55:08 PM 985 Views
That's true. - 02/02/2012 10:34:32 PM 1089 Views
they may also be a afraid that PP will go the way of ACORN - 02/02/2012 11:04:16 PM 1134 Views
"Accused" of = unfounded slander. - 03/02/2012 12:13:30 AM 1161 Views
This is so foreign a debate for me - 02/02/2012 10:16:15 PM 1106 Views
Must be nice. *NM* - 03/02/2012 12:26:49 AM 679 Views
Re: stuff - 03/02/2012 09:18:53 AM 1007 Views
I'm sorry, but what're we talking about when we're talking about "cancer" - 03/02/2012 12:49:34 PM 1039 Views
Obviously not adenocarcinoma, no. - 04/02/2012 07:36:06 AM 1056 Views
I"m not that fussed. I'm just generally leary of research that has results like that - 04/02/2012 08:35:04 PM 996 Views
Fair enough. - 04/02/2012 10:17:31 PM 1056 Views
They restored funding incidentally - 03/02/2012 05:43:47 PM 996 Views
Unless I've missed it - 03/02/2012 05:56:15 PM 1065 Views
You must have missed it then - 03/02/2012 07:07:13 PM 992 Views
If you're referring to Cannoli - 03/02/2012 07:19:25 PM 1149 Views
Multiple was not an accidental choice of words - 03/02/2012 11:46:30 PM 1035 Views
Then I agree that maybe this is not the thread for you. - 04/02/2012 12:41:42 AM 1056 Views
Re: Then I agree that maybe this is not the thread for you. - 04/02/2012 01:53:25 AM 1251 Views
Well, I'll try again for both of us. - 04/02/2012 02:56:42 PM 1074 Views
Re: Well, I'll try again for both of us. - 04/02/2012 07:40:25 PM 1039 Views
well at least there will not be any doubt about this being a political decision - 03/02/2012 06:24:14 PM 1179 Views
I think that ship sailed long ago. - 03/02/2012 08:45:13 PM 992 Views
Truth - 04/02/2012 02:07:20 AM 1096 Views
I do wonder a bit which lawmakers Fox thinks "pressured" Komen. - 03/02/2012 08:29:50 PM 996 Views
are you trying to disprove the study you posted? - 03/02/2012 09:20:12 PM 1126 Views
To me, it depends on the nature of the contact, which I have not dug enough to discover. - 03/02/2012 10:43:45 PM 1018 Views
you admit you have no incite into what happened - 04/02/2012 04:27:17 AM 1051 Views
Actually, it looks like Komens new VP (and former GOP GA gubernatorial candidate) had the incite. - 04/02/2012 04:24:14 PM 1084 Views
educated guess don't work when you are tinfoil hat wearing kool-aid drinker - 04/02/2012 09:33:49 PM 998 Views
Dude. - 04/02/2012 11:20:49 PM 918 Views
Yo mama? - 05/02/2012 05:32:11 AM 1089 Views
whhhhhhyyyyyy - 04/02/2012 11:23:58 PM 1078 Views
Why would I not think that? - 05/02/2012 05:46:15 AM 945 Views

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