What about those who postulate a mid-to-late 1st century composition?
Larry Send a noteboard - 22/09/2012 02:21:18 AM
As I said, I am going to rely on the editorial staff of the official printing of the Nag Hammadi Corpus by Brill, rather than your assertions as to what one or two academics say based on a cursory reading of wikipedia. There will always be an academic willing to take any position, particularly if he can publish something based on it, so citing one academic is not really that persuasive.
Consensus puts Thomas in the early Second Century, and virtually no serious scholars put it after 150 AD.
Consensus puts Thomas in the early Second Century, and virtually no serious scholars put it after 150 AD.
I'm personally skeptical of this theory, but I did read where Elaine Pagels theorized that John contains a sort of textual interplay/didactic dialogue with Thomas regarding light of the world and the nature of the resurrection. Thoughts on that theory?
Illusions fall like the husk of a fruit, one after another, and the fruit is experience. - Narrator, Sylvie
Je suis méchant.
Je suis méchant.

So, about this silly "Jesus' wife" story making the rounds...
19/09/2012 10:55:55 PM
- 1330 Views
That's right! Jesus' position on marriage was "One man, no woman." *NM*
19/09/2012 11:05:55 PM
- 659 Views
What is the context? The canonical bible says Christ has a wife: The Church.
19/09/2012 11:25:19 PM
- 968 Views
Oh please...don't confuse "wife" with "bride"
19/09/2012 11:35:09 PM
- 937 Views
What word do the Prophets use for Israels relationship to God?
20/09/2012 12:38:20 AM
- 915 Views
BRIDE
20/09/2012 03:39:30 PM
- 902 Views
I love your last two sentences. They're a really nice description.
*NM*
20/09/2012 07:58:19 PM
- 445 Views

That makes sense for an eternal God, but sounds like a wife who remains a bride.
20/09/2012 08:56:07 PM
- 973 Views
It's "bride" in the Old Testament as well.
20/09/2012 09:48:37 PM
- 917 Views
The distinction is important for preserving the newlywed condition, but not for this fragment.
20/09/2012 11:21:52 PM
- 950 Views
Two things why it is important
20/09/2012 04:24:37 AM
- 890 Views
Did someone hit you over the head? "Two things why it is important"? Really?
20/09/2012 03:50:02 PM
- 979 Views
Something I forgot to ask you about last night: What is your take on Daniels messianic prophecy?
20/09/2012 09:21:32 PM
- 889 Views
I don't get that at all. "And will be no more", or "And will have nothing" is better.
20/09/2012 10:13:20 PM
- 848 Views
It is the King James text, which I have never heard anyone call heretical.
20/09/2012 11:15:54 PM
- 929 Views
The King James Bible is aesthetically pleasing but a bad translation.
21/09/2012 12:03:00 AM
- 862 Views
I like the NKJV because it tries to include all ambiguities.
21/09/2012 12:47:38 AM
- 937 Views
There is a very good reason no one dismissed the illegitmate gospels as illegitimate until 180 AD:
20/09/2012 09:15:05 PM
- 855 Views
The Gospel of Thomas was written before 180 AD.
20/09/2012 09:33:44 PM
- 847 Views
What is the oldest extant text of or reference to it?
20/09/2012 11:11:03 PM
- 920 Views
The Oxyrhynchus fragments were dated to c. 200 AD, and they are copies
21/09/2012 12:18:33 AM
- 839 Views
I would buy 200 AD, of course.
21/09/2012 12:58:32 AM
- 901 Views
It's not about "buying" it - it's essentially proven at that point.
21/09/2012 03:26:50 AM
- 872 Views
Yes; all I meant was that I never disputed a date around 200 AD.
22/09/2012 12:25:41 AM
- 891 Views
I don't think any of the gospels were written by their purported authors.
22/09/2012 03:36:32 AM
- 802 Views
Not even Mark or Luke?
22/09/2012 01:21:24 PM
- 848 Views
Well, but everyone knew Peter didn't speak Greek
22/09/2012 09:46:57 PM
- 789 Views
True, but everyone also knew Paul spoke it fluently, and he would have been an ideal choice.
24/09/2012 06:20:22 AM
- 853 Views
Some people did "lie big".
24/09/2012 02:11:58 PM
- 877 Views
I forgot about (or possibly repressed memories of) the Gnostics "Gospel" of Peter.
24/09/2012 11:26:43 PM
- 958 Views
I'm not trying to defend Gnosticism doctrinally, but...
24/09/2012 11:51:40 PM
- 918 Views
I am not relying SOLELY (or chiefly) on popularity though.
25/09/2012 02:21:01 AM
- 899 Views
The Gnostic response would be:
25/09/2012 06:01:58 AM
- 815 Views
That just sounds like more conspiracy allegations based on desire rather than evidence.
25/09/2012 07:15:06 AM
- 969 Views
The issue of evidence for Gnosticism would make this thread unnecessarily long.
25/09/2012 07:28:22 PM
- 809 Views
What about those who postulate a mid-to-late 1st century composition?
22/09/2012 02:21:18 AM
- 914 Views
Elaine Pagels ceased to be an impartial academic a long time ago.
22/09/2012 03:41:41 AM
- 873 Views
Suspected as much, but wanted to see if you thought so as well
22/09/2012 03:47:05 AM
- 1013 Views
Let's not get started on Funk
22/09/2012 09:48:05 PM
- 807 Views
don't these people have anything better to do?
20/09/2012 11:39:35 PM
- 910 Views
Clearly not.
22/09/2012 12:27:29 AM
- 748 Views