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The world needs to decide how it feels about non-proliferation. Joel Send a noteboard - 23/02/2010 07:11:51 PM
I've seen a number of our posters take an increasingly popular position (which, incidentally, is Ahmadinejads also: ) "America has nukes, and they're the only ones who've ever used them; if they don't have to disarm, why should anyone else be barred from arming?" I suspect Pakistan will answer that question shortly; if they don't, North Korea will probably start extorting Japan instead.

Point being, the "fallout" (poor choice of words ;)) from another US invasion vs. a nuclear Iran depends on where you sit, and how far you look. The more America acts preemptively and unilaterally the more difficult coalition building becomes, because there are more and more cases where dissenters will say, "but we'll never know what would've happened if America hadn't intervened. " Perhaps they need to find out for themselves. Realistically the only relevance to us depends on what it does to the price of oil and whether we get sucked into a war defending Israel (which seems unlikely; if Iran hits Israel with a nuke they'll get hit back a lot harder. ) As for what we'd do if they get into Lebanon, well, when terrorist suicide bombed our Marine barracks there we left the country.
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Why Iran's dictators can be deterred - 23/02/2010 01:31:52 PM 895 Views
Not sure he showed us how they can be deterred - 23/02/2010 01:56:42 PM 417 Views
Er yeah, that's totally the argument I was going for. - 23/02/2010 02:06:52 PM 461 Views
No Palin was simply cover for the "we just have to accept Iran will get the bomb argument" - 23/02/2010 02:26:45 PM 489 Views
She wasn't cover for anything, but I like how this argument keeps going that way. - 23/02/2010 02:36:47 PM 482 Views
As I have noted it isn't conseratives that keep bring her up - 23/02/2010 03:26:11 PM 412 Views
and I tried to take her out of the argument. But here we are. - 23/02/2010 03:39:29 PM 441 Views
dealing with the repercussions of attacking another Islamic country may be our best option - 23/02/2010 04:25:47 PM 537 Views
The world needs to decide how it feels about non-proliferation. - 23/02/2010 07:11:51 PM 382 Views
yes American used the bomb so now we should let everyone else take a turn *NM* - 24/02/2010 06:22:23 AM 236 Views
It would certainly demonstrate the folly of that view. - 24/02/2010 06:49:56 AM 434 Views
well hell then why not just sel them nukes and get it over with - 24/02/2010 02:33:00 PM 437 Views
I really don't think the folly need be demonstrated more than once. - 28/02/2010 02:49:30 AM 371 Views
No I never played Civ - 28/02/2010 06:02:38 PM 453 Views
It's a classic, you should. - 28/02/2010 06:19:21 PM 507 Views
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Sheesh! - 23/02/2010 02:11:34 PM 597 Views
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I think this guy lives on the moon - 23/02/2010 02:51:20 PM 521 Views
Ehm. I disagree strongly with your opinion of Mr. Zakaria. - 23/02/2010 03:23:09 PM 538 Views
Views on him tend to be polar - 23/02/2010 04:06:04 PM 583 Views
I was just talking to Lupine about how I like your posts, but I'm gonna make an exception here. - 23/02/2010 09:28:44 PM 502 Views
You'll have to link that then, I always like to read things that feed my ego - 24/02/2010 12:17:37 AM 488 Views
Oh, it was on AIM. - 24/02/2010 01:13:07 PM 551 Views
Should've been on wotmania Skype chat. - 25/02/2010 12:47:42 PM 410 Views
Here's an article in response to Zakaria's article - 23/02/2010 03:19:41 PM 529 Views
I like that article, actually. - 23/02/2010 03:58:39 PM 430 Views
Re: I like that article, actually. - 23/02/2010 04:22:27 PM 431 Views
I don't believe they can be stopped - 23/02/2010 10:37:47 PM 420 Views
One thing he forgets... - 24/02/2010 12:19:12 AM 449 Views
Iran is a thorny problem - 24/02/2010 05:38:09 AM 451 Views
I still don't believe North Korea harmless. - 24/02/2010 06:59:15 AM 551 Views
I never used the term 'harmless' - 24/02/2010 10:01:14 PM 484 Views
Fair point, sorry. - 25/02/2010 12:45:47 PM 545 Views
No worries - I was just making sure you understood my position - 25/02/2010 05:19:10 PM 418 Views
Re: No worries - I was just making sure you understood my position - 28/02/2010 02:30:26 AM 552 Views
Re: No worries - I was just making sure you understood my position - 01/03/2010 03:53:58 PM 432 Views
A carrot without a stick is just a free carrot. - 02/03/2010 08:01:23 AM 531 Views
It's not a carrot/stick thing at all - 02/03/2010 04:29:00 PM 525 Views
Maybe I'm just out of the loop, but it doesn't seem that way. - 05/03/2010 01:02:57 AM 578 Views
They can hit Tokyo - 25/02/2010 06:10:44 PM 444 Views
So? - 25/02/2010 07:01:37 PM 600 Views
I think you are grossly overestimating our border security - 25/02/2010 08:03:13 PM 381 Views
Well, I KNOW you're ignorant about a lot of things and this shows it. - 25/02/2010 08:56:45 PM 463 Views
Yes you are the Great Cold War Warrior of the chairforce - 28/02/2010 06:44:31 PM 495 Views
Oh I'm sorry - so you're not so much ignorant as idiot. - 01/03/2010 03:48:32 PM 379 Views
Is that what taught you in chairforce school loser boy? - 01/03/2010 04:33:53 PM 467 Views
Nope, it was the internet actually - 02/03/2010 04:31:36 PM 403 Views
Israel does not have the military capability to destroy or significantly damage Iran's nuclear sites - 24/02/2010 12:33:00 PM 530 Views
I agree, even if for different reasons. - 24/02/2010 01:01:00 PM 386 Views
You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about - and it shows to anyone who does - 24/02/2010 10:33:29 PM 481 Views
But... - 25/02/2010 12:44:15 AM 517 Views
Re: But... - 25/02/2010 05:52:07 PM 630 Views
Here's a few questions for you then. - 25/02/2010 02:55:00 AM 586 Views
You're not asking questions you're trying to support your point - 25/02/2010 06:49:28 PM 513 Views
I think this ties in well with this article - 25/02/2010 09:56:04 AM 447 Views
That's actually a really good idea - 25/02/2010 07:05:37 PM 380 Views

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