You raised some other good points there, with which I basically agree, and yes I'm strictly talking about the clothes, I have absolutely no prob with her raising a fuss about the gay aspect, which is not to say I have a prob with the schoolboard fighting it either, just that I view that as a legitimate battle either way and I do not view the dress code as one and I don't think it should be involved, but it happens to basically be the entire premise of the legal suit. I don't blame her for doing this, I would say I respect her for it, except I don't, because I'm assuming she's not old enough and mature enough to fully appreciate the consequences that she might face. If she really did go into this with eyes wide open then she has my sincerest respect regardless of whether I agree with her cause, but she's young, so probably not, and for the same reason, the disruption she's causing is not something I blame her for because I think she was too young to realize the consequences. That same youth excuses her from the moral ambiguity involved with how most of the consequences are happening to other children. So even if I viewed this as petty, I wouldn't be angry at her over it.
I don't disagree about the concept of a symbolic victory. I thought about that as well. But honestly, if you read what you just wrote (and I usually HATE when people throw in this type of comment, but...), doesn't that feel a little "if you sit in the back of the bus, we'll let you ride" to you?
Oh, I thought about it myself when writing it, however, these days people protest with little consequence and many who protest are so within their shell of zeal that they don't even acknowledge the collateral damage caused by it. If a firefight breaks out between the good guys and the bad guys, and a bunch of innocent bystanders get caught in the middle, it's a bit hard to just say "Blessed are they who are persecuted for the sake of righteousness, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven." and move on. That's not to say you shouldn't have done it, but acknowledging your part in their suffering is - to me - a pretty big factor in deciding who the good guys and the bad guys are. And sometimes it is better to fall back and try another day when less collateral damage is going to result, sometimes not, you have to make a decision and deal with the consequences, you can't ignore them.
Sometimes - and I am not saying this was one of those times - you've got to say 'yeah, I'm right and they're wrong, but pursuing this isn't right'. So between Rosa Parks and PETA-extremists bashing in some lab guards head to free the lab rats who then run free while infected with a disease and bit locals, there is a big swath of grey. I hardly think she's anywhere near the latter, but I don't think she's Rosa Parks either.
I don't disagree about the concept of a symbolic victory. I thought about that as well. But honestly, if you read what you just wrote (and I usually HATE when people throw in this type of comment, but...), doesn't that feel a little "if you sit in the back of the bus, we'll let you ride" to you?
Oh, I thought about it myself when writing it, however, these days people protest with little consequence and many who protest are so within their shell of zeal that they don't even acknowledge the collateral damage caused by it. If a firefight breaks out between the good guys and the bad guys, and a bunch of innocent bystanders get caught in the middle, it's a bit hard to just say "Blessed are they who are persecuted for the sake of righteousness, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven." and move on. That's not to say you shouldn't have done it, but acknowledging your part in their suffering is - to me - a pretty big factor in deciding who the good guys and the bad guys are. And sometimes it is better to fall back and try another day when less collateral damage is going to result, sometimes not, you have to make a decision and deal with the consequences, you can't ignore them.
Sometimes - and I am not saying this was one of those times - you've got to say 'yeah, I'm right and they're wrong, but pursuing this isn't right'. So between Rosa Parks and PETA-extremists bashing in some lab guards head to free the lab rats who then run free while infected with a disease and bit locals, there is a big swath of grey. I hardly think she's anywhere near the latter, but I don't think she's Rosa Parks either.
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Mississippi High School cancels Prom after Lesbian Student Wanted to Bring a Girl as Her Date
- 11/03/2010 11:56:10 PM
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Seriously, wtf is wrong with the US? *NM*
- 12/03/2010 12:08:32 AM
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This is the problem with liberals and their crusades like gay marriage.
- 12/03/2010 12:50:12 AM
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Just a few things that I know you'll proabably disagree with.
- 12/03/2010 02:03:32 AM
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Re: Just a few things that I know you'll proabably disagree with.
- 12/03/2010 10:12:04 PM
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What???
- 12/03/2010 02:53:13 AM
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Actually...
- 12/03/2010 04:56:03 AM
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Oh, it is definitely self-defense.
- 12/03/2010 05:52:50 AM
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That analogy is not apt.
- 12/03/2010 06:10:27 AM
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Er...
- 12/03/2010 06:45:05 AM
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I'm afraid that again that analogy is not apt.
- 12/03/2010 01:39:19 PM
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...
- 12/03/2010 02:05:54 PM
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I think you mean "I'm afraid that again that analogy is not apt."
- 12/03/2010 02:45:23 PM
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That's right, I forgot to add that.
- 12/03/2010 03:23:25 PM
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It's a rather key piece of any attempted analogy, wouldn't you say?
- 12/03/2010 03:45:15 PM
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Re: That analogy is not apt.
- 12/03/2010 02:06:51 PM
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It's not that I'm surprised they disagree. It's that they're Wrong.
- 12/03/2010 06:39:30 AM
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Re: This is the problem with liberals and their crusades like gay marriage.
- 12/03/2010 02:31:06 PM
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Why don't you show me where I said marriage is holy OR made a religious argument, you imbecile?
- 12/03/2010 10:32:42 PM
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actually, i thought i read that it was because she wanted to wear a tux instead of a dress
- 12/03/2010 02:46:00 AM
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Kind of a different can of worms then
- 12/03/2010 03:20:35 AM
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What?! Now that is a can of worms I could see getting in a fight over.
- 14/03/2010 01:24:47 AM
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Hmm. Apparently it is legal to discriminate upon the basis of gender. Imagine that.
- 14/03/2010 02:45:51 AM
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It kind of makes sense, given the highly arbitrary and stereotypical nature of gender.
- 14/03/2010 03:35:44 AM
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Re: What?! Now that is a can of worms I could see getting in a fight over.
- 15/03/2010 02:01:00 AM
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It is a great case of Selective Outrage, IMHO
- 12/03/2010 03:10:01 AM
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Maybe.
- 12/03/2010 06:34:42 AM
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"ACLU Defends Nazi's Right to Burn Down ACLU Headquarters"
- 12/03/2010 12:31:14 PM
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As is often the case, there seems to be a fair amount of assumption going on here.
- 12/03/2010 02:22:48 PM
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Just giving the benefit of the doubt...
- 12/03/2010 02:57:23 PM
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Re: "Pursuing their ideology"
- 12/03/2010 07:23:54 PM
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Re: "Pursuing their ideology"
- 12/03/2010 08:17:25 PM
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That wasn't the impression I was under
- 12/03/2010 11:23:08 PM
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Re: That wasn't the impression I was under
- 13/03/2010 12:09:08 AM
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Pshhh there's a difference between "wear SOME clothes" and "wear a tux"
- 15/03/2010 01:40:37 AM
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For the record...
- 12/03/2010 06:48:25 AM
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Re: For the record...
- 12/03/2010 01:04:33 PM
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Re: For the record...
- 12/03/2010 07:08:06 PM
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Re: For the record...
- 12/03/2010 08:08:42 PM
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No no, I know how you feel. I'm just disinclined to have sympathy for the school.
- 12/03/2010 11:28:35 PM
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Alternatively, I have little sympathy for the school, I just don't have much for her either
- 12/03/2010 11:56:08 PM
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- 12/03/2010 11:56:08 PM
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Don't you think you're sensationalizing this just a bit?
- 12/03/2010 05:42:21 AM
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Regardless of "rights" invovled, I don't see why she shouldn't be able to go as she pleases.
- 12/03/2010 05:25:31 PM
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When I was in high school, my girlfriend and I formulated a petition so we'd be able to attend
- 12/03/2010 07:55:33 PM
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Another thing I think people should remember -
- 12/03/2010 07:59:43 PM
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One point though
- 12/03/2010 08:40:32 PM
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Re: One point though
- 12/03/2010 08:46:30 PM
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My point was that it was a hollow reassurance
- 12/03/2010 09:35:46 PM
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yah, but honestly, is a tux really going to upset anyone that much?
- 13/03/2010 04:50:08 PM
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Just because it wouldn't bother you doesn't mean it won't bother anyone else
- 13/03/2010 06:38:03 PM
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It does
- 13/03/2010 07:35:39 PM
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Re: It does
- 13/03/2010 07:48:35 PM
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I typically agree with you
- 13/03/2010 09:19:27 PM
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Following proper form shouldn't guarantee victory
- 13/03/2010 10:17:27 PM
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No, it should not
- 14/03/2010 12:33:56 AM
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Re: No, it should not
- 14/03/2010 01:16:33 AM
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Re: Following proper form shouldn't guarantee victory
- 15/03/2010 01:49:34 AM
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Re: Following proper form shouldn't guarantee victory
- 15/03/2010 02:44:17 AM
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He wasn't neccessarily advocating it. He was translating what they were doing into something that
- 16/03/2010 01:37:59 AM
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I'd argue that that kind of hypocrisy is invaluable in today's world, actually.
- 16/03/2010 01:46:16 AM
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Re: It does
- 13/03/2010 08:18:03 PM
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Re: It does
- 13/03/2010 09:30:21 PM
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Re: It does
- 13/03/2010 10:11:21 PM
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Damn. Poor liberals, all revved up with nothing to fight for. *NM*
- 12/03/2010 10:16:12 PM
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So... they were ready to fight something bad, and nothing bad happened
- 12/03/2010 11:30:02 PM
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