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Re: What?! Now that is a can of worms I could see getting in a fight over. Isaac Send a noteboard - 15/03/2010 02:01:00 AM

Legally speaking schools basically have leeway to enforce any dress code so long as they apply it evenly and can demonstrate they are not deliberately being selective in application. I guess a case could be made that if they had a dress code stipulating suits for males and dresses/skirts for females they'd have a pretty solid case.


Isn't that discriminating on the basis of gender? Girls have to wear dresses and boys have to wear tuxedos? I have a problem with that.

There is nothing even about that code. It sounds blatantly selective in application to me.


IIRC, girls skirts boys pants is a perfectly legal dress code, my personal opinion on the matter not withstanding it's definitely legal for a school to have one, or by now the ACLU would have sued the pants off a number of schools, no pun intended, and I believe even private schools would be subject to that sort of case were it not legal. People have a lot of incorrect impression about laws on this stuff anyway. You can in many cases discriminate entirely legally on gender, men don't have to wear shirts on their front lawn, women do. Women don't have to register for the draft, men do, etc.
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Re: Just a few things that I know you'll proabably disagree with. Cannoli - 12/03/2010 10:12:04 PM 881 Views
Ummmm.... no. Napoleon62 - 12/03/2010 11:02:50 PM 898 Views
i totally agree 100% with what you're saying moondog - 12/03/2010 02:33:55 AM 1005 Views
What??? Dannymac - 12/03/2010 02:53:13 AM 976 Views
Actually... Dragonsoul - 12/03/2010 04:56:03 AM 972 Views
Oh, it is definitely self-defense. Dannymac - 12/03/2010 05:52:50 AM 886 Views
That analogy is not apt. Dragonsoul - 12/03/2010 06:10:27 AM 946 Views
Er... beetnemesis - 12/03/2010 06:45:05 AM 813 Views
I'm afraid that again that analogy is not apt. Dragonsoul - 12/03/2010 01:39:19 PM 896 Views
... Sareitha Sedai - 12/03/2010 02:05:54 PM 824 Views
I think you mean "I'm afraid that again that analogy is not apt." snoopcester - 12/03/2010 02:45:23 PM 836 Views
That's right, I forgot to add that. Dragonsoul - 12/03/2010 03:23:25 PM 877 Views
It's a rather key piece of any attempted analogy, wouldn't you say? Sareitha Sedai - 12/03/2010 03:45:15 PM 777 Views
Again, you're right. Dragonsoul - 12/03/2010 03:59:13 PM 755 Views
Yup. Sareitha Sedai - 12/03/2010 04:02:26 PM 861 Views
Not really. Her point is that they should both be illegal. beetnemesis - 12/03/2010 07:01:47 PM 787 Views
Re: That analogy is not apt. Macharius - 12/03/2010 02:06:51 PM 836 Views
And when the school refused to change it's policy... Dragonsoul - 12/03/2010 03:25:03 PM 779 Views
Absurd. Macharius - 12/03/2010 08:27:19 PM 859 Views
The rules were unjust. Dannymac - 13/03/2010 05:09:59 AM 884 Views
Wow, talk about proving my point! Cannoli - 12/03/2010 11:04:34 PM 998 Views
So hang on. Dannymac - 13/03/2010 05:04:58 AM 902 Views
It's not that I'm surprised they disagree. It's that they're Wrong. beetnemesis - 12/03/2010 06:39:30 AM 859 Views
Re: This is the problem with liberals and their crusades like gay marriage. Macharius - 12/03/2010 02:31:06 PM 899 Views
Why don't you show me where I said marriage is holy OR made a religious argument, you imbecile? Cannoli - 12/03/2010 10:32:42 PM 877 Views
actually, i thought i read that it was because she wanted to wear a tux instead of a dress moondog - 12/03/2010 02:46:00 AM 900 Views
Kind of a different can of worms then Isaac - 12/03/2010 03:20:35 AM 848 Views
What?! Now that is a can of worms I could see getting in a fight over. Tashmere - 14/03/2010 01:24:47 AM 837 Views
Hmm. Apparently it is legal to discriminate upon the basis of gender. Imagine that. Tashmere - 14/03/2010 02:45:51 AM 825 Views
It kind of makes sense, given the highly arbitrary and stereotypical nature of gender. Ghavrel - 14/03/2010 03:35:44 AM 750 Views
Re: What?! Now that is a can of worms I could see getting in a fight over. Isaac - 15/03/2010 02:01:00 AM 872 Views
I would love to argue with you Tashmere - 15/03/2010 11:03:48 AM 768 Views
It is a great case of Selective Outrage, IMHO Isaac - 12/03/2010 03:10:01 AM 911 Views
Maybe. Ghavrel - 12/03/2010 06:34:42 AM 903 Views
"ACLU Defends Nazi's Right to Burn Down ACLU Headquarters" Isaac - 12/03/2010 12:31:14 PM 823 Views
Re: "ACLU Defends Nazi's Right to Burn Down ACLU Headquarters" Macharius - 12/03/2010 01:53:39 PM 855 Views
Re: "ACLU Defends Nazi's Right to Burn Down ACLU Headquarters" Isaac - 12/03/2010 03:04:43 PM 812 Views
As is often the case, there seems to be a fair amount of assumption going on here. Legolas - 12/03/2010 02:22:48 PM 814 Views
Just giving the benefit of the doubt... Isaac - 12/03/2010 02:57:23 PM 877 Views
Re: "Pursuing their ideology" beetnemesis - 12/03/2010 07:23:54 PM 842 Views
Re: "Pursuing their ideology" Isaac - 12/03/2010 08:17:25 PM 841 Views
That wasn't the impression I was under beetnemesis - 12/03/2010 11:23:08 PM 723 Views
Re: That wasn't the impression I was under Isaac - 13/03/2010 12:09:08 AM 884 Views
Pshhh there's a difference between "wear SOME clothes" and "wear a tux" beetnemesis - 15/03/2010 01:40:37 AM 776 Views
Your comments are inconsistent Isaac - 15/03/2010 02:09:43 AM 838 Views
I think you're optimistic about what her chances would've been beetnemesis - 12/03/2010 07:13:38 PM 834 Views
For the record... beetnemesis - 12/03/2010 06:48:25 AM 840 Views
Re: For the record... Isaac - 12/03/2010 01:04:33 PM 881 Views
Re: For the record... beetnemesis - 12/03/2010 07:08:06 PM 898 Views
Re: For the record... Isaac - 12/03/2010 08:08:42 PM 869 Views
No no, I know how you feel. I'm just disinclined to have sympathy for the school. beetnemesis - 12/03/2010 11:28:35 PM 731 Views
Alternatively, I have little sympathy for the school, I just don't have much for her either Isaac - 12/03/2010 11:56:08 PM 862 Views
Don't you think you're sensationalizing this just a bit? Aemon - 12/03/2010 05:42:21 AM 833 Views
Actually it is that reductionist Roland00 - 12/03/2010 01:46:23 PM 834 Views
Re: Actually it is that reductionist beetnemesis - 12/03/2010 07:25:41 PM 917 Views
I have issues with both sides, I think snoopcester - 12/03/2010 02:44:06 PM 800 Views
Regardless of "rights" invovled, I don't see why she shouldn't be able to go as she pleases. LadyLorraine - 12/03/2010 05:25:31 PM 879 Views
When I was in high school, my girlfriend and I formulated a petition so we'd be able to attend Lupine - 12/03/2010 07:55:33 PM 965 Views
Another thing I think people should remember - Lupine - 12/03/2010 07:59:43 PM 946 Views
One point though ßelals Girl - 12/03/2010 08:40:32 PM 869 Views
Re: One point though Lupine - 12/03/2010 08:46:30 PM 938 Views
My point was that it was a hollow reassurance ßelals Girl - 12/03/2010 09:35:46 PM 766 Views
yah, but honestly, is a tux really going to upset anyone that much? LadyLorraine - 13/03/2010 04:50:08 PM 728 Views
Just because it wouldn't bother you doesn't mean it won't bother anyone else ßelals Girl - 13/03/2010 06:38:03 PM 800 Views
It does nossy - 13/03/2010 07:35:39 PM 780 Views
Re: It does Isaac - 13/03/2010 07:48:35 PM 724 Views
I typically agree with you nossy - 13/03/2010 09:19:27 PM 838 Views
Following proper form shouldn't guarantee victory Isaac - 13/03/2010 10:17:27 PM 777 Views
yah, but at this point, how much of it is the girl? LadyLorraine - 13/03/2010 10:24:57 PM 749 Views
Is she a child or an adult? IIRC she's 18 Isaac - 13/03/2010 11:33:39 PM 802 Views
No, it should not nossy - 14/03/2010 12:33:56 AM 994 Views
Re: No, it should not Isaac - 14/03/2010 01:16:33 AM 904 Views
I understood that. You explained it well. *NM* Tashmere - 14/03/2010 03:28:10 AM 370 Views
Re: Following proper form shouldn't guarantee victory beetnemesis - 15/03/2010 01:49:34 AM 833 Views
Re: Following proper form shouldn't guarantee victory Isaac - 15/03/2010 02:44:17 AM 723 Views
This is definitely true beetnemesis - 15/03/2010 04:27:43 AM 861 Views
Re: This is definitely true Isaac - 15/03/2010 05:18:11 AM 1109 Views
He wasn't neccessarily advocating it. He was translating what they were doing into something that Tashmere - 16/03/2010 01:37:59 AM 790 Views
I'd argue that that kind of hypocrisy is invaluable in today's world, actually. Legolas - 16/03/2010 01:46:16 AM 784 Views
Re: It does ßelals Girl - 13/03/2010 08:18:03 PM 820 Views
Re: It does nossy - 13/03/2010 09:30:21 PM 735 Views
Re: It does ßelals Girl - 13/03/2010 10:11:21 PM 937 Views
Re: It does nossy - 14/03/2010 12:11:11 AM 832 Views
Re: It does ßelals Girl - 14/03/2010 03:42:06 AM 866 Views
Re: It does Ghavrel - 14/03/2010 12:47:47 AM 883 Views
Re: It does ßelals Girl - 14/03/2010 04:09:18 AM 852 Views
You make good points. *NM* Legolas - 15/03/2010 08:08:37 PM 338 Views
Ah, yes, "the rules." beetnemesis - 15/03/2010 01:47:31 AM 768 Views
Read my replies to Nossy and Ghavrel ßelals Girl - 15/03/2010 05:01:29 AM 842 Views
Slippery slope arguments are stupid. Ghavrel - 14/03/2010 12:43:00 AM 720 Views
So is likening everythng back to the Civil Rights Movement ßelals Girl - 14/03/2010 04:17:54 AM 877 Views
"Dress codes exists for a reason?" beetnemesis - 15/03/2010 01:43:36 AM 776 Views
They do ßelals Girl - 15/03/2010 05:08:17 AM 905 Views
Damn. Poor liberals, all revved up with nothing to fight for. *NM* Cannoli - 12/03/2010 10:16:12 PM 521 Views
So... they were ready to fight something bad, and nothing bad happened beetnemesis - 12/03/2010 11:30:02 PM 718 Views
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