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Preaching to the choir, man. Or maybe b!tching at the choir? aerocontrols Send a noteboard - 07/08/2018 05:57:11 PM

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Was there a constututional amendment that "really bad dudes" (oh, and overwhelmingly, only the black ones) don't get civil rights protections?

No. Did I make that argument?


View original postIs there some legal theory out there that cops shooting criminals before they're tried is a good thing, for criminal justice?

This is exactly the sort of thing that I'm saying turns me off. I'm not even sure how to respond to it, assuming you're a person of good will who is trying to convince me and not just performing for an audience, so I will say this. We give police officers service weapons to defend themselves and the public, and expect those weapons to be used when necessary, almost without exception before the criminals are tried. Clearly we agree that police officers should be punished when they abuse their authority (didn't I say so in my original post?!?) but somehow that's not enough for you. Whatever.


View original postIt would be one thing if all this was happening against the background of increased crime and increasing numbers of cops being shot in the line of duty, but it isn't. Exactly the opposite trend prevails.

I guess you think you're telling me something here, but I already know these facts. Maybe you don't know that Reason magazine and Radley Balko have been on this beat for decades?

So anyway, if anyone was wondering what I was talking about when I say that people I agree with are seemingly attempting to push me away from their position instead of convince me to agree with it more strongly, this post is exactly what I meant.

Can I suggest you google and read "Toxoplasma of Rage", if you haven't already?

Hollywood has the best moral compass, because it has compassion.
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As our soldiers learned from Vietnam on, a 10 year old can kill you as quickly as an adult. *NM* damookster - 06/08/2018 03:36:38 PM 194 Views
Id that because the Univeristy has their own police department? random thoughts - 08/08/2018 07:01:53 PM 421 Views
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Re: I think your friend may have been playing with you fionwe1987 - 07/08/2018 05:53:56 AM 429 Views
What a well reasoned argument random thoughts - 08/08/2018 07:26:36 PM 441 Views
I didn't think I'd see you, of all people, using this particular argument. Cannoli - 06/08/2018 11:48:17 PM 475 Views
You're waaay to obsessed with Egwene, Cannoli. fionwe1987 - 07/08/2018 06:16:49 AM 417 Views
I don't wanna comment on this whole thing, or get into y'all's spat, but... TyrReborn - 07/08/2018 04:16:10 PM 413 Views
They were not innocents! fionwe1987 - 07/08/2018 04:25:54 PM 455 Views
Innocent is irrelevant. Disarmed is the pertinent qualifier. Cannoli - 08/08/2018 01:36:01 AM 441 Views
I'm not the one defending her actions while criticizing real people for doing less egregious things Cannoli - 08/08/2018 12:59:52 AM 428 Views
Isn't this pretty much par for the course, from the left? TyrReborn - 08/08/2018 05:21:45 AM 408 Views
Not to mention this whole issue involves unequal generalizations. Cannoli - 08/08/2018 08:01:45 AM 443 Views
This damookster - 08/08/2018 02:47:29 PM 426 Views
Re: Interesting. I'd like your input. Cannoli - 06/08/2018 11:27:43 PM 473 Views
Emmett Till tried to mug an undercover cop now??? Wow fionwe1987 - 07/08/2018 06:28:36 AM 402 Views
I notice you have absolutely nothing in response aside from my mixing up Edmund Perry & Emmet Till Cannoli - 07/08/2018 11:12:26 PM 421 Views
BLM almost lost me to the policing reform cause aerocontrols - 07/08/2018 05:01:52 PM 451 Views
Is the argument that "really bad dudes" don't deserve civil rights protections? fionwe1987 - 07/08/2018 05:11:53 PM 488 Views
no damookster - 07/08/2018 05:50:59 PM 414 Views
Preaching to the choir, man. Or maybe b!tching at the choir? aerocontrols - 07/08/2018 05:57:11 PM 413 Views
well said *NM* damookster - 07/08/2018 06:27:58 PM 183 Views
Re: Preaching to the choir, man. Or maybe b!tching at the choir? fionwe1987 - 07/08/2018 08:00:13 PM 403 Views
More black criminals are shot per capita. More whites are shot in total. damookster - 07/08/2018 08:20:12 PM 581 Views
Correct. fionwe1987 - 07/08/2018 09:38:56 PM 394 Views
Yeah, you really misunderstand me, apparently aerocontrols - 07/08/2018 08:53:56 PM 388 Views
Doesn't seem that way to me fionwe1987 - 07/08/2018 10:24:40 PM 446 Views
Why don't you prove that someone in the last thirty years was shot by cops ONLY for skin color? Cannoli - 08/08/2018 02:36:50 AM 400 Views
I agree with most of this. Cannoli - 08/08/2018 02:00:18 AM 437 Views
I don't know if I have time to respond to all of that aerocontrols - 08/08/2018 08:54:37 PM 412 Views
I dont agree with the camera footage being released random thoughts - 08/08/2018 07:36:29 PM 422 Views
The problem with the camera footage not being released damookster - 08/08/2018 07:45:44 PM 410 Views
I once argued the same, for a different reason aerocontrols - 08/08/2018 08:45:26 PM 409 Views
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