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Re: I can take a shot at that, since nobody else seems willing to. Lo'oris Send a noteboard - 22/02/2011 11:23:38 PM
nothing that makes you actually examine something of significance, nothing that makes you sit back and think

Think about the "problem" of channelers (either male or female) and how it is treated differently in each culture. Think about how we "support" the channelers just because they are the main characters and we came to like them, but then think what would you do if you lived in a world where some people were physically all-powerful compared to you and the average person... are you sure you wouldn't turn whitecloak or pro-sul'dam?
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Io iudico bene questo: che sia meglio essere impetuoso che respettivo, perché la fortuna è donna ed è necessario, volendola tenere sotto, batterla e urtarla.
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Can someone explain to me how Jordan is not a particularly good writer? newyorkersedai - 21/02/2011 05:41:31 PM 3403 Views
I personally see it as more of RJ being a fantastic story teller, but not a well structured writer. darius_sedai - 21/02/2011 06:44:21 PM 1809 Views
Re: I personally see it as more of RJ being a fantastic story teller, but not a well structured Lo'oris - 22/02/2011 10:59:25 PM 1437 Views
What do you think about the Southern Gothic authors? Ghavrel - 23/02/2011 08:08:26 AM 1299 Views
Re: What do you think about the Southern Gothic authors? Lo'oris - 23/02/2011 10:51:57 AM 1383 Views
Oh, it really depends. Ghavrel - 23/02/2011 05:39:07 PM 1174 Views
thanks, I'll have a look *NM* Lo'oris - 23/02/2011 05:40:50 PM 878 Views
For the same reason that most people think they have above average intelligence. RabidWombat - 21/02/2011 11:13:34 PM 1798 Views
Thank you. Nargs - 21/02/2011 11:43:08 PM 1496 Views
Re: For the same reason that most people think they have above average intelligence. *NM* Gerbeaud - 22/02/2011 02:39:20 PM 980 Views
Re: For the same reason that most people think they have above average intelligence. Gerbeaud - 22/02/2011 02:41:37 PM 1250 Views
Well Said! Evil_Monkey - 22/02/2011 02:42:22 PM 1457 Views
That's possibly the best explanation of literary criticism I've ever seen. The Count - 23/02/2011 02:47:12 AM 1370 Views
I can take a shot at that, since nobody else seems willing to. Ghavrel - 22/02/2011 07:29:20 AM 1832 Views
Do you enjoy reading Robert Jordan's ... Nargs - 22/02/2011 04:31:28 PM 1532 Views
Not particularly. Ghavrel - 22/02/2011 10:22:00 PM 1655 Views
Agreed. Tom - 22/02/2011 10:37:08 PM 1349 Views
Re: I can take a shot at that, since nobody else seems willing to. Lo'oris - 22/02/2011 11:23:38 PM 1476 Views
That has very little to do with anything unless you can provide a real-world analogy to a channeler. Ghavrel - 22/02/2011 11:30:52 PM 1374 Views
Re: That has very little to do with anything unless you can provide a real-world analogy to a Lo'oris - 23/02/2011 12:02:24 AM 1388 Views
As far as I'm concerned, the only way to gauge whether an author is good or not is ... Velveti - 22/02/2011 03:58:17 PM 1382 Views
Amen *NM* Nargs - 22/02/2011 04:32:50 PM 857 Views
Re: Can someone explain to me how Jordan is not a particularly good writer? DomA - 22/02/2011 06:27:11 PM 2251 Views
Brain overload! This is really well thought out. RabidWombat - 23/02/2011 10:22:37 PM 1436 Views
thank you for the insight into the outside view lol Onarishma - 24/02/2011 04:34:57 PM 1445 Views
I think it has more to do with limitations imposed by how the story was organized and edited. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 22/02/2011 07:50:18 PM 1720 Views
That's interesting, and I have a weird agree/disagree here; also, that Adam Roberts sucks newyorkersedai - 23/02/2011 02:15:12 AM 1483 Views
Re: That's interesting, and I have a weird agree/disagree here; also, that Adam Roberts sucks Lo'oris - 23/02/2011 11:02:14 AM 1432 Views
adam roberts reviews uglycat - 23/02/2011 03:53:49 AM 1483 Views
And I suspect those who prefer the BS books are those who largely read WoT for the story. *NM* Ghavrel - 23/02/2011 08:06:16 AM 838 Views
Oh GAWD!... not another pointer to Robert Adam's incoherant muckraking HyogaRott - 24/02/2011 07:47:35 PM 1304 Views
I think DomA answered the question best, but the "do you like it" argument is weak. Tom - 22/02/2011 10:32:51 PM 1672 Views
Re: I think DomA answered the question best, but the "do you like it" argument is weak. Lo'oris - 22/02/2011 11:16:24 PM 1590 Views
The Necronomicon isn't actually a book, you know. *NM* Ghavrel - 22/02/2011 11:28:29 PM 786 Views
There are nine, actually... Lo'oris - 23/02/2011 12:04:55 AM 1592 Views
Lovecraft's Necronomicon was fictitious. If you want to count fanfiction, fine. *NM* Ghavrel - 23/02/2011 12:38:07 AM 857 Views
Based on how poorly worded that response was, I'm not sure what to think of it. *NM* Tom - 23/02/2011 12:13:00 AM 845 Views
I hope I am misunderstanding you. Stephen - 23/02/2011 10:57:47 PM 1272 Views
Re: I hope I am misunderstanding you. Lo'oris - 24/02/2011 10:41:09 AM 1413 Views
If the core of the story is all that matters, why read a book Stephen - 24/02/2011 10:32:01 PM 1373 Views
Re: If the core of the story is all that matters, why read a book Lo'oris - 24/02/2011 11:23:42 PM 1262 Views
So wait, style is good? Stephen - 25/02/2011 12:32:07 AM 1624 Views
Re: So wait, style is good? Lo'oris - 25/02/2011 08:53:55 AM 1241 Views
I'm not trolling Stephen - 25/02/2011 11:57:18 PM 1260 Views
That depends... DomA - 23/02/2011 03:00:35 AM 1535 Views
I didn't say aesthetics was the primary criterion. I named three criteria. Tom - 23/02/2011 05:39:03 AM 1406 Views
the "do you like it" is the most important criterion RabidWombat - 23/02/2011 10:45:17 PM 1377 Views
Re: the "do you like it" is the most important criterion DomA - 24/02/2011 01:53:59 AM 1362 Views
Thumbs up - IMHO, all discussion can end here Nargs - 28/02/2011 05:45:34 PM 1488 Views
Not for quality of writing. Tom - 24/02/2011 05:17:52 PM 1333 Views
Those who can do, the rest are critics. *NM* HyogaRott - 24/02/2011 07:55:50 PM 855 Views
I object, sir! People don't read WoT for the way it's told? newyorkersedai - 24/02/2011 12:58:58 AM 1417 Views
If you don't mind me asking... Fanatic-Templar - 24/02/2011 01:05:12 AM 1227 Views
Re: If you don't mind me asking... DomA - 24/02/2011 02:19:17 AM 1296 Views
I still don't get it. Fanatic-Templar - 24/02/2011 08:27:50 AM 1212 Views
Re: If you don't mind me asking... Lo'oris - 24/02/2011 11:29:14 PM 1275 Views
I don't mind that you ask, but I'm not going to engage in a defense of literature. Tom - 24/02/2011 05:35:27 PM 1229 Views
Re: I don't mind that you ask, but I'm not going to engage in a defense of literature. Lo'oris - 24/02/2011 11:26:55 PM 1352 Views
I'm sure you have a wonderful job awaiting in fast food service. Tom - 25/02/2011 01:57:15 AM 1401 Views
Re: I'm sure you have a wonderful job awaiting in fast food service. Lo'oris - 25/02/2011 08:56:06 AM 1315 Views
Jack @$$ snobbery at its best. WOW *NM* Nargs - 28/02/2011 05:48:43 PM 860 Views
... Fanatic-Templar - 25/02/2011 01:07:22 AM 1244 Views
Maybe you should have used better prose? fionwe1987 - 25/02/2011 01:23:17 AM 1112 Views
It is not a serious question. Tom - 25/02/2011 01:53:59 AM 1289 Views
How so? fionwe1987 - 25/02/2011 02:59:05 AM 1398 Views
I have every right to use that tone. Tom - 25/02/2011 03:08:14 PM 1338 Views
Is that so? Fanatic-Templar - 25/02/2011 05:58:31 AM 1398 Views
I'm not fixated with Jordan. Tom - 25/02/2011 03:13:56 PM 1344 Views
Then why do you keep trying to qualify the passage in relation to him? Fanatic-Templar - 25/02/2011 06:29:31 PM 1391 Views
You're conflating two things. Tom - 25/02/2011 07:32:59 PM 1419 Views
All right, now we're getting somewhere. Fanatic-Templar - 26/02/2011 12:40:57 AM 1322 Views
you raise very good questions... *NM* Nargs - 26/02/2011 09:21:13 AM 788 Views
Okay, here you go. I am giving you the benefit of the doubt as to your sincerity. Tom - 26/02/2011 03:20:44 PM 1146 Views
Thank you, and I agree with all your explanations. *NM* Fanatic-Templar - 26/02/2011 07:28:09 PM 790 Views
Glad to hear that. Tom - 27/02/2011 03:42:33 AM 1218 Views
No problem, these things happen on the internet. *NM* Fanatic-Templar - 27/02/2011 04:36:57 AM 836 Views
No, it is a serious question, just one that can never be seriously answered. HyogaRott - 25/02/2011 03:28:48 PM 1300 Views
Your opinion isn't as valid as anyone else's if that's your opinion. Tom - 25/02/2011 04:44:57 PM 1450 Views
Re: Your opinion isn't as valid as anyone else's if that's your opinion. HyogaRott - 25/02/2011 06:05:18 PM 1825 Views
I'm not wasting my time proving something to an internet moron and troll like you. Tom - 25/02/2011 07:36:19 PM 1205 Views
Ah yes, the wonderful "dissmiss the person who disagrees with me by insulting him tactic" HyogaRott - 28/02/2011 02:30:35 PM 1207 Views
Re: Your opinion isn't as valid as anyone else's if that's your opinion. Lo'oris - 26/02/2011 11:06:26 AM 1232 Views
Jack @$$ snobbery at its best. WOW *NM* Nargs - 28/02/2011 05:51:48 PM 709 Views
double post. oh my! *NM* Nargs - 28/02/2011 05:52:17 PM 737 Views
Just makes you right twice *NM* HyogaRott - 28/02/2011 09:42:19 PM 844 Views
Re: ... Lo'oris - 25/02/2011 08:59:37 AM 1291 Views
And part 2, on the analysis of writing. newyorkersedai - 24/02/2011 01:16:20 AM 1344 Views
Florid desciption is usually not a good thing. Tom - 24/02/2011 05:30:30 PM 1277 Views
Re: I find this whole thing elitist and more than a bit silly GarethBryne - 23/02/2011 06:45:05 AM 1457 Views
Why do you think mind-expanding literature is restricted to the classics? Ghavrel - 23/02/2011 08:03:59 AM 1234 Views
Re: Why do you think mind-expanding literature is restricted to the classics? GarethBryne - 23/02/2011 09:25:10 AM 1434 Views
Of course people read for pleasure. Ghavrel - 23/02/2011 09:04:24 PM 1238 Views
Ok... Nargs - 24/02/2011 08:59:27 AM 1245 Views
"Yeah well, that's, like, just your opinion, man." Good argument. Ghavrel - 24/02/2011 03:43:24 PM 1337 Views
*NM* Tom - 24/02/2011 05:37:02 PM 757 Views
I find your above average tastes and intelligence uninspiring. Nargs - 24/02/2011 08:42:03 PM 1189 Views
I'm curious to hear who Tom and DomA consider a "very good writer"? VTHokie - 24/02/2011 05:49:13 PM 1324 Views
Among living writers? Tom - 24/02/2011 08:16:08 PM 1388 Views
No Rushdie? fionwe1987 - 24/02/2011 09:22:46 PM 1257 Views
I was considering mentioning Rushdie. Tom - 24/02/2011 09:32:20 PM 1221 Views
My list would be similar... DomA - 26/02/2011 07:24:11 AM 1487 Views
That was a very good list. Tom - 26/02/2011 03:07:31 PM 1376 Views
Re: That was a very good list. DomA - 27/02/2011 04:51:43 AM 1403 Views
Once I finish Hugo I'm probably going to read Druon. Tom - 27/02/2011 02:30:03 PM 1215 Views
Oh, and another question Tom - 27/02/2011 05:28:47 PM 1141 Views
Re: Oh, and another question DomA - 01/03/2011 03:42:02 AM 1344 Views
One final question, if you'll indulge me... Tom - 01/03/2011 06:43:23 PM 1190 Views
Well, until I have time to return to your previous post but... DomA - 01/03/2011 07:45:13 PM 1392 Views
I think the two of you have taken too narrow a meaning of 'great' Iain83 - 27/02/2011 11:14:30 AM 1534 Views
You like Solzhenitsyn but not other Russian writers? Tom - 27/02/2011 02:43:46 PM 1354 Views
Re: You like Solzhenitsyn but not other Russian writers? Iain83 - 02/03/2011 11:47:19 PM 1515 Views
Re: I think the two of you have taken too narrow a meaning of 'great' DomA - 28/02/2011 11:51:49 PM 1443 Views
Re: I think the two of you have taken too narrow a meaning of 'great' Iain83 - 03/03/2011 12:01:30 AM 1445 Views
Link to DomA Post from up above: Nargs - 03/03/2011 12:20:11 AM 1579 Views
Re: I think the two of you have taken too narrow a meaning of 'great' DomA - 03/03/2011 02:17:06 PM 1319 Views
He's a great storyteller, but his prose is somewhat uninspiring. *NM* Marshall - 27/02/2011 07:28:00 PM 870 Views
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