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I didn't catch any hints as to Mesaana's identity. Were there any? Lanfear Send a noteboard - 24/09/2009 08:51:23 PM
I've only listened to it once, and I was hoping for something as to a clue about Mesaana. I didn't catch anything. The only thing I found out of place was the comment that Egwene notices Katerine and the other red were part of the people who captured her that night when she was on the boat. RJ put that there for some reason and I cannot figure out why. Any ideas?
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I thought it was excellent *NM* Sidious - 24/09/2009 04:32:05 PM 1180 Views
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I adored it. *NM* Deadsy - 24/09/2009 08:37:38 PM 1025 Views
Agreed, but only because of the incredibly slow audio reading. FORTY-FIVE minutes for ONE chapter!!! *NM* Cannoli - 25/09/2009 06:08:27 AM 1087 Views
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Cannoli’s journal of listening to “The Nature of Pain.” Cannoli - 28/09/2009 01:03:35 PM 2078 Views
Chapter summary Sidious - 24/09/2009 04:31:01 PM 2171 Views
sounds like its RJs work from the dialogue *NM* Iceman - 24/09/2009 04:33:57 PM 944 Views
I agree - I'm certain it was RJ *NM* Sidious - 24/09/2009 04:36:12 PM 1111 Views
Agreed. It was RJ through and through. *NM* Shannow - 24/09/2009 04:36:13 PM 1003 Views
+1 Seriana Sedai - 25/09/2009 06:03:44 AM 1618 Views
I should disagree StinkerSkunk - 26/09/2009 10:34:58 PM 1713 Views
Jordan left tons of background info in notes Rurouni_Kenshin - 27/09/2009 07:36:11 PM 1648 Views
Re: Jordan left tons of background info in notes StinkerSkunk - 27/09/2009 08:10:06 PM 1681 Views
Her entry in Encyclopaedia wot makes no mention of her being amyrlin *NM* NaClH2O - 28/09/2009 01:17:49 AM 1034 Views
Jordan could have easily added that to her backstory after LOC. It's been at least ten years. Rurouni_Kenshin - 28/09/2009 09:46:34 PM 1706 Views
Re: Jordan could have easily added that to her backstory after LOC. It's been at least ten years. StinkerSkunk - 28/09/2009 10:04:02 PM 1501 Views
Re: Chapter summary RugbyPlayingAshaman - 24/09/2009 06:50:36 PM 1762 Views
Can someone explain to me where Egwene developed this immense love for the Tower? Shannow - 24/09/2009 04:44:28 PM 1768 Views
Well, she's replaced everything else in her life with the Tower. Darth_Katie - 24/09/2009 04:47:05 PM 1788 Views
I always thought it was the small town thing Sidious - 24/09/2009 04:50:19 PM 1702 Views
Could it be that Fain could have contaminated her in tFOH? AliasRY - 24/09/2009 04:51:56 PM 1643 Views
Can Fain do that? Sidious - 24/09/2009 04:53:57 PM 1612 Views
No he can't (couldn't) DomA - 24/09/2009 05:02:21 PM 1834 Views
So you're saying that an antagonist is being portrayed as idiotic in this series? No way! Shannow - 24/09/2009 04:58:15 PM 1738 Views
I this case, I'm quite forgiving Sidious - 24/09/2009 05:36:59 PM 1644 Views
What has Gawyn done that demonstrates stupidity? Fanatic-Templar - 28/09/2009 05:21:39 AM 1613 Views
Ambitious people are like that redhand - 24/09/2009 05:08:27 PM 1683 Views
Re: Can someone explain to me where Egwene developed this immense love for the Tower? RugbyPlayingAshaman - 24/09/2009 06:01:46 PM 1639 Views
I don't think its necessarily for the tower itself FredWeasley - 24/09/2009 08:30:15 PM 1624 Views
This made my morning happy. Darth_Katie - 24/09/2009 04:45:08 PM 1713 Views
I think it's different. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 24/09/2009 05:51:11 PM 1771 Views
True. Darth_Katie - 24/09/2009 07:21:36 PM 1771 Views
Re: True. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 24/09/2009 07:30:06 PM 1632 Views
I also think Egwene might free them from it once she becomes recognized Amyrlin *NM* Deadsy - 24/09/2009 08:36:55 PM 1068 Views
Re: I think it's different. BlackAdder - 25/09/2009 03:24:22 AM 1625 Views
There's still a difference... fionwe1987 - 25/09/2009 04:28:55 AM 1529 Views
Re: There's still a difference... BlackAdder - 26/09/2009 12:30:28 PM 1553 Views
But... fionwe1987 - 26/09/2009 03:44:31 PM 1564 Views
Re: But... Amyrlin Seat - 26/09/2009 04:08:35 PM 1568 Views
She could have not bungled up... fionwe1987 - 26/09/2009 05:17:02 PM 1368 Views
In PoD, it is revealed that Alviarin makes Elaida swear obedience to her. BlackAdder - 26/09/2009 07:48:01 PM 1642 Views
he's saying that. Deadsy - 26/09/2009 10:12:16 PM 1465 Views
She also deposes Alviarin... fionwe1987 - 26/09/2009 10:47:07 PM 1522 Views
Egwene matured a bit, BUT redhand - 24/09/2009 04:51:53 PM 1603 Views
Ever had rancid oil? Kiera - 01/10/2009 08:42:59 PM 2313 Views
Is Alviarin finished? Sidious - 24/09/2009 04:52:31 PM 1714 Views
Two possibilities that come to mind RandAllThor - 24/09/2009 05:11:41 PM 1649 Views
Or Sidious - 24/09/2009 05:45:36 PM 1803 Views
Best idea ^ *NM* Deadsy - 24/09/2009 08:27:15 PM 1317 Views
Egwene knows about the letter, and soon the BA hunters will too. Rurouni_Kenshin - 24/09/2009 07:46:34 PM 1686 Views
She's got to be 'raised' to the shawl first, to take the 4 oaths. AgentOrange - 24/09/2009 10:33:42 PM 1611 Views
No they don't Rurouni_Kenshin - 24/09/2009 11:03:09 PM 1508 Views
Oh, I thought you meant Elaida's new obedience oath *NM* AgentOrange - 25/09/2009 09:15:48 AM 990 Views
Her part will probably be... Etzel - 24/09/2009 06:06:08 PM 1684 Views
I think her mission has changed. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 24/09/2009 06:08:11 PM 1447 Views
Re: Is Alviarin finished? Gerbeaud - 24/09/2009 09:08:29 PM 1594 Views
Good 1st chapter of Egwene's plotline! Etzel - 24/09/2009 05:15:32 PM 1660 Views
Painful to listen to Bulgakov - 24/09/2009 05:33:22 PM 1716 Views
Not finished it yet MikeyMikeyMikey - 24/09/2009 05:42:18 PM 1789 Views
WHITE! sue - 24/09/2009 06:20:43 PM 1640 Views
Not White! (spoilers) And Seanchan attack idea. The Angry Druid - 28/09/2009 02:26:06 AM 1695 Views
Yes, Mesaana's plain white dress seems somewhat peculiar Etzel - 24/09/2009 06:43:45 PM 1778 Views
But what if she has no choice but to stay? MikeyMikeyMikey - 24/09/2009 08:02:01 PM 1438 Views
Are you kidding? Moridin would kill her AgentOrange - 24/09/2009 10:50:34 PM 1531 Views
She doesn't.. Etzel - 25/09/2009 06:36:22 AM 1492 Views
I doubt it - I'm of the opinion that Moridin may be next on SH's "personal attentions" list RugbyPlayingAshaman - 25/09/2009 05:16:38 PM 1657 Views
If this is true, it could be a ploy BlackAdder - 25/09/2009 03:06:45 AM 1626 Views
Plus, it avoids getting tangled in the Black Ajah hunt BlackAdder - 25/09/2009 03:11:38 AM 1419 Views
I struggle to think of Mesaana as a novice Sidious - 25/09/2009 05:16:57 AM 1619 Views
I disagree Marshall - 25/09/2009 11:08:34 AM 1715 Views
nice idea *NM* Deadsy - 24/09/2009 08:29:56 PM 939 Views
I liked it *Spoilers* RugbyPlayingAshaman - 24/09/2009 05:49:41 PM 1603 Views
I think... Etzel - 24/09/2009 07:01:42 PM 1794 Views
Re: I think... RugbyPlayingAshaman - 24/09/2009 07:33:34 PM 1390 Views
Re: I think... Sidious - 24/09/2009 08:00:09 PM 1751 Views
Wasn't there a high turnover in War of Power as well? Rurouni_Kenshin - 24/09/2009 08:07:38 PM 1489 Views
Re: Wasn't there a high turnover in War of Power as well? Sidious - 25/09/2009 03:43:22 PM 1628 Views
Chosen have been mindtrapped before Rurouni_Kenshin - 25/09/2009 04:32:18 PM 1386 Views
Re: I think... Ryan - 25/09/2009 07:25:34 PM 1549 Views
Surely worse happened in the War of Power though before the seals were laid Rurouni_Kenshin - 24/09/2009 07:58:54 PM 1579 Views
I was totally caught off guard! entyti - 24/09/2009 05:50:39 PM 1610 Views
I all excited! sue - 24/09/2009 06:26:23 PM 1516 Views
Yay Deadsy - 24/09/2009 07:00:41 PM 1790 Views
Egwene is arrogant as ever...thinking Rand can't possibly get along without guidance *NM* Lanfear - 24/09/2009 08:25:24 PM 1165 Views
is she wrong? Deadsy - 24/09/2009 08:34:44 PM 1670 Views
The problem is that Egwene isn't honest with herself. Two afterthouts as edits Lanfear - 24/09/2009 08:43:38 PM 1843 Views
Re: The problem is that Egwene isn't honest with herself. Deadsy - 24/09/2009 08:46:09 PM 1636 Views
I'm sure Moridin knows how to too Isaac - 27/09/2009 03:59:49 PM 1527 Views
Re: is she wrong? BlackAdder - 25/09/2009 03:38:09 AM 1698 Views
Re: is she wrong? fionwe1987 - 25/09/2009 04:30:28 AM 1482 Views
You're totally wrong Lanfear - 25/09/2009 02:23:27 PM 1645 Views
Re: You're totally wrong Sidious - 25/09/2009 03:32:22 PM 1604 Views
but she was absolutely essential in the successful completion NaClH2O - 29/09/2009 02:55:13 PM 1835 Views
I like Egwene but I didn't like her statement Sidious - 25/09/2009 05:03:33 AM 1799 Views
I agree, and one more reason why I agree Lanfear - 25/09/2009 02:27:44 PM 1680 Views
I disagree in some ways Sidious - 25/09/2009 03:23:35 PM 1442 Views
I agree, and that is Rand's problem in the first place. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 25/09/2009 07:27:22 PM 1591 Views
Rand should invoke the 'Law of War' against the DO ajfurst - 25/09/2009 06:19:56 AM 1545 Views
She wants part of the glory. *NM* Bulgakov - 25/09/2009 06:31:47 AM 911 Views
What will happen first: black ajah hunt ends or Seanchan attack the WT? Lanfear - 24/09/2009 08:38:43 PM 1725 Views
I can never decide what I think will happen Deadsy - 24/09/2009 08:44:03 PM 1662 Views
Re: I can never decide what I think will happen randfandom - 24/09/2009 09:25:18 PM 1596 Views
I disagree, the Rebels are better protected Rurouni_Kenshin - 24/09/2009 09:36:19 PM 1661 Views
I agree with you. Rebels are harder to take (rebels have Asha'man too) *NM* Lanfear - 24/09/2009 09:59:10 PM 998 Views
So do the Tower Reds, only the Seanchan don't know that yet... Crackbrained Asha'man - 25/09/2009 04:46:17 AM 1506 Views
Yet according to one of Min's visions, Carlinya gets made "property" NaClH2O - 29/09/2009 03:09:28 PM 1450 Views
Re: Yet according to one of Min's visions, Carlinya gets made "property" StinkerSkunk - 29/09/2009 03:23:45 PM 1579 Views
OK, I didn't remember the details correctly NaClH2O - 29/09/2009 03:38:16 PM 1580 Views
Re: OK, I didn't remember the details correctly StinkerSkunk - 29/09/2009 04:11:22 PM 1645 Views
Harnan's tattoo is of a hawk, not a raven NaClH2O - 29/09/2009 04:37:27 PM 1663 Views
Oops. Then no other interpretations. StinkerSkunk - 29/09/2009 04:51:07 PM 1594 Views
Potential for conflicting prophecies? BlackAdder - 26/09/2009 08:49:04 PM 1376 Views
no.. urizen - 26/09/2009 09:12:52 PM 1476 Views
The title of book 13... Etzel - 24/09/2009 09:19:17 PM 1467 Views
Swing and a miss. The Dude - 24/09/2009 10:33:46 PM 1675 Views
As said Etzel - 25/09/2009 06:37:46 AM 1452 Views
Or maybe the fortress in the blight? Isaac - 25/09/2009 12:51:05 PM 1515 Views
Yes, those Towers... Etzel - 25/09/2009 03:10:40 PM 1583 Views
Seems unlikely to me. RandAllThor - 25/09/2009 01:44:27 PM 1607 Views
Yeah, that's possible. Etzel - 25/09/2009 03:11:33 PM 1559 Views
Egwene's surprising decision... Rand al'Thor - 25/09/2009 08:38:51 PM 1438 Views
I think it's an exaggeration Deadsy - 25/09/2009 09:01:22 PM 1562 Views
Re: Egwene's surprising decision... randfandom - 26/09/2009 12:58:51 AM 1600 Views
The Seanchan attack will happen first AgentOrange - 24/09/2009 10:47:50 PM 1454 Views
I think Egwene is building up an immunity to forkroot. *NM* Lanfear - 25/09/2009 02:03:58 AM 1013 Views
I'm kinda hoping Mesaana hands them all in a basket to Moridin. BlackAdder - 25/09/2009 02:51:55 AM 1356 Views
Egwene's respect reminds me of Niall's comment to Morgase ajfurst - 25/09/2009 03:39:19 AM 1504 Views
Both at once, I don't think it will be a neat A then B, or B then A ajfurst - 25/09/2009 03:53:30 AM 1533 Views
How would they possibly hear of Turan in Arad Doman? Lanfear - 25/09/2009 02:34:34 PM 1527 Views
Raken - they are used as messengers ajfurst - 25/09/2009 02:43:29 PM 1472 Views
Egwene... surprised me. It was great. fionwe1987 - 24/09/2009 08:49:36 PM 1412 Views
I didn't catch any hints as to Mesaana's identity. Were there any? Lanfear - 24/09/2009 08:51:23 PM 1488 Views
Katerine is Black Ajah Rurouni_Kenshin - 24/09/2009 10:48:14 PM 1558 Views
Also... this makes me miss RJ even more Deadsy - 24/09/2009 08:52:52 PM 1816 Views
I experienced just the opposite Bulgakov - 25/09/2009 06:40:53 AM 1651 Views
Totally disagree Rurouni_Kenshin - 25/09/2009 06:58:36 AM 1488 Views
This was a truely beautiful chapter *NM* AgentOrange - 24/09/2009 10:22:48 PM 967 Views
Really? CupofDice - 24/09/2009 11:37:59 PM 1507 Views
Daaayyum - when did Elaida become such a baller/shot caller? BlackAdder - 24/09/2009 11:23:41 PM 1513 Views
I can't wait to actually read the chapter-- I thought it was very well written *NM* Matrimony Cauthon - 25/09/2009 12:18:48 AM 951 Views
In regards to Alviarin. Heiko - 25/09/2009 01:32:09 AM 1619 Views
Could Elaida pass a 4th Oath? Sidious - 25/09/2009 05:13:08 AM 1546 Views
I think it would serve as motivation for those who say "You don't have to like the Amrylin" to turn. Seriana Sedai - 25/09/2009 06:08:19 AM 1577 Views
The Black Ajah would never stand for it, even if the other sisters would Rurouni_Kenshin - 25/09/2009 06:38:19 AM 1716 Views
And therein lies Elaida's genius... BlackAdder - 25/09/2009 07:08:48 PM 1678 Views
Re: The Black Ajah would never stand for it, even if the other sisters would Ryan - 26/09/2009 04:45:32 AM 1492 Views
Fain as the source of much of the Tower's woes Matrimony Cauthon - 25/09/2009 05:30:49 AM 1517 Views
No one else thinks Fain has had any influence on Elaida's erratic behavior? *NM* Matrimony Cauthon - 25/09/2009 05:32:05 PM 1000 Views
I agree. Fain is affecting her, for certain. NT *NM* The Angry Druid - 28/09/2009 02:30:45 AM 1043 Views
What about Mesaana? Darth_Katie - 25/09/2009 06:03:41 PM 1430 Views
Definitely Mesana-- but I was wondering if the Shadar Logoth taint leaked onto Elaida a little Matrimony Cauthon - 25/09/2009 07:43:24 PM 1640 Views
Mat vs Egwene Sidious - 25/09/2009 03:34:35 PM 1565 Views
Re: Mat vs Egwene Rurouni_Kenshin - 25/09/2009 03:38:39 PM 1548 Views
Re: Mat vs Egwene Sidious - 25/09/2009 03:40:32 PM 1568 Views
Re: Mat vs Egwene Gerbeaud - 25/09/2009 04:16:16 PM 1568 Views
We already saw Mat confront Egwene in Salidar. What more Lanfear - 25/09/2009 04:18:21 PM 1704 Views
Re: We already saw Mat confront Egwene in Salidar. What more Gerbeaud - 25/09/2009 04:37:04 PM 1596 Views
That's not his argument though Rurouni_Kenshin - 25/09/2009 04:34:35 PM 1402 Views
Ah okay. Sidious - 25/09/2009 04:36:00 PM 1513 Views
She seemed okay with it in KoD Rurouni_Kenshin - 25/09/2009 04:38:53 PM 1645 Views
I think... Etzel - 25/09/2009 03:47:26 PM 1638 Views
Nice ideas! *NM* Sidious - 25/09/2009 03:51:01 PM 1297 Views
That is really good idea Matrimony Cauthon - 25/09/2009 08:12:34 PM 1734 Views
Though... Etzel - 26/09/2009 01:32:18 PM 1582 Views
Re: Mat vs Egwene Seriana Sedai - 25/09/2009 06:15:56 PM 1399 Views
egwene and elaida's 4th oath aldapelan - 25/09/2009 03:51:36 PM 1539 Views
Egwene's Hypocrisy here is astounding: The Angry Druid - 29/09/2009 03:39:25 AM 1518 Views
Egwene and Mesaana Darth_Katie - 25/09/2009 06:07:37 PM 1583 Views
Come now...even though Mesaana is whimpy for a Forsaken, she would wipe the floor with Egwene... Shannow - 25/09/2009 06:10:13 PM 1610 Views
Alright, I *may* have overlooked that significant point. Darth_Katie - 25/09/2009 06:21:09 PM 1442 Views
Agreed Sidious - 26/09/2009 06:36:01 AM 1499 Views
Depends on where the battle takes place. TAR = Egwene win. The Angry Druid - 02/10/2009 06:10:07 PM 1608 Views
Egwene would need to lead a circle or use an angreal to beat her. *NM* Rurouni_Kenshin - 25/09/2009 06:31:42 PM 972 Views
Unless it was based on willpower as in a conflict within Tel'Aran'Rhiod RugbyPlayingAshaman - 25/09/2009 07:19:50 PM 1508 Views
Humph. Great Lord of Chaos - 26/09/2009 03:27:09 AM 1464 Views
She was overconfident Rurouni_Kenshin - 26/09/2009 03:24:51 PM 1506 Views
A lie by Elaida? Etzel - 27/09/2009 02:31:36 PM 1759 Views
Re: A lie by Elaida? StinkerSkunk - 27/09/2009 02:50:49 PM 1523 Views
Re: A lie by Elaida? Amyrlin Seat - 27/09/2009 03:01:06 PM 1472 Views
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She believes what she said *NM* Sidious - 28/09/2009 04:51:52 AM 954 Views
Remember, perspective. Great Lord of Chaos - 29/09/2009 12:14:59 AM 1407 Views
It might well be true BlackAdder - 29/09/2009 12:38:20 AM 1518 Views
Well... that elicited quite a reaction. Fanatic-Templar - 28/09/2009 06:25:52 AM 1328 Views
I had many of those same thoughts. Narg - 28/09/2009 05:27:43 PM 1587 Views
Re: I had many of those same thoughts. Watcher - 28/09/2009 06:42:56 PM 1348 Views
Re: I had many of those same thoughts. Knightscape - 28/09/2009 11:08:00 PM 1494 Views
She'll do everything to re-unite the Tower - except anything that could actually re-unite it ajfurst - 29/09/2009 02:26:10 AM 1587 Views
I've just learned to skip any female POV's written by RJ Lord o' Salv - 29/09/2009 04:38:45 AM 1531 Views
Hmmm.... fionwe1987 - 29/09/2009 05:30:44 AM 1565 Views
Re: Hmmm.... Fanatic-Templar - 29/09/2009 06:26:17 AM 1576 Views
Ridiculous Rurouni_Kenshin - 30/09/2009 12:34:07 AM 1398 Views
Very. Fanatic-Templar - 30/09/2009 02:40:07 AM 1529 Views
Re: Hmmm.... fionwe1987 - 30/09/2009 03:00:01 AM 1520 Views
Re: Hmmm.... Fanatic-Templar - 30/09/2009 04:32:14 AM 1571 Views
Re: Hmmm.... fionwe1987 - 01/10/2009 03:23:21 AM 1472 Views
Re: Hmmm.... Fanatic-Templar - 01/10/2009 04:51:14 AM 1501 Views
Re: Hmmm.... RandAllThor - 03/10/2009 01:57:24 PM 1831 Views
That's Mesaana's purpose actually *NM* guttering flame - 06/11/2009 07:03:12 AM 920 Views
Elaida, Formidable? Rurouni_Kenshin - 29/09/2009 11:48:04 PM 1615 Views
How do you figure? Fanatic-Templar - 30/09/2009 12:15:47 AM 1317 Views
Aside from successfuly orchastrate the coup what has she done? Rurouni_Kenshin - 30/09/2009 12:35:07 AM 1540 Views
Re: Aside from successfuly orchastrate the coup what has she done? Fanatic-Templar - 30/09/2009 02:29:37 AM 1431 Views
Broke the Black Ajah's hold on the Amyrlin seat??????? Rurouni_Kenshin - 30/09/2009 06:09:08 PM 1386 Views
Ignore *NM* Rurouni_Kenshin - 30/09/2009 06:20:12 PM 930 Views
Oh yeah, and... Fanatic-Templar - 29/09/2009 04:22:57 AM 1650 Views
Egwene in this chapter... fionwe1987 - 29/09/2009 05:04:35 AM 1581 Views
Re: Egwene in this chapter... Fanatic-Templar - 29/09/2009 05:59:33 AM 1707 Views
Author thoughts - Audiobook versus reading ajfurst - 29/09/2009 05:30:39 AM 1534 Views
Yes, I've felt very much the same *NM* AgentOrange - 29/09/2009 12:52:52 PM 1066 Views
A lot of that is the narrator Isaac - 29/09/2009 04:36:47 PM 1593 Views
The Dark One's Touch Rurouni_Kenshin - 30/09/2009 06:21:24 PM 1626 Views
Good point! *NM* Etzel - 30/09/2009 06:26:51 PM 985 Views
Re: The Dark One's Touch Sidious - 30/09/2009 06:44:53 PM 1416 Views
What about the person who has the ter'angreal dagger? Lanfear - 30/09/2009 07:11:18 PM 1386 Views
Re: What about the person who has the ter'angreal dagger? Rurouni_Kenshin - 30/09/2009 07:17:06 PM 1630 Views
The Irony of Elaida dadof5 - 30/09/2009 11:10:08 PM 1540 Views
LOL, I agree. Great Lord of Chaos - 01/10/2009 02:47:18 AM 1498 Views
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