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Egwene's respect reminds me of Niall's comment to Morgase ajfurst Send a noteboard - 25/09/2009 03:39:19 AM
2.It seems to me, all this respect Egwene is earning in the tower is all nice and well, but... The revolution will need some external crisis to trigger it.

The one about Ailron coming closer every day, but no matter what Morgase does he won't give her troops. And I agree with all the respect she's earning. It's certainly not a waste. It ensures she'll have a more solid leadership once she has it, and be more likely to be followed during said external crisis, but on it's own it's not enough.
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Your thoughts about TGS - chapter 2 *spoilers* Sidious - 24/09/2009 03:17:07 PM 7613 Views
Mind-numbingly boring... Shannow - 24/09/2009 04:22:52 PM 2330 Views
I thought it was excellent *NM* Sidious - 24/09/2009 04:32:05 PM 1284 Views
Only for someone who can't read between the lines. Rurouni_Kenshin - 24/09/2009 07:40:18 PM 2187 Views
I adored it. *NM* Deadsy - 24/09/2009 08:37:38 PM 1127 Views
Agreed, but only because of the incredibly slow audio reading. FORTY-FIVE minutes for ONE chapter!!! *NM* Cannoli - 25/09/2009 06:08:27 AM 1189 Views
EVERY Chapter in the entire series is read that way. Yvves - 25/09/2009 01:40:07 PM 1832 Views
Yup, they're a lot of fun to listen to. BlackAdder - 26/09/2009 08:26:52 PM 1772 Views
Agreed. As for the speed issue... RandAllThor - 28/09/2009 02:11:13 PM 1678 Views
Cannoli’s journal of listening to “The Nature of Pain.” Cannoli - 28/09/2009 01:03:35 PM 2314 Views
Chapter summary Sidious - 24/09/2009 04:31:01 PM 2415 Views
sounds like its RJs work from the dialogue *NM* Iceman - 24/09/2009 04:33:57 PM 1045 Views
I agree - I'm certain it was RJ *NM* Sidious - 24/09/2009 04:36:12 PM 1210 Views
Agreed. It was RJ through and through. *NM* Shannow - 24/09/2009 04:36:13 PM 1103 Views
+1 Seriana Sedai - 25/09/2009 06:03:44 AM 1868 Views
I should disagree StinkerSkunk - 26/09/2009 10:34:58 PM 1953 Views
Jordan left tons of background info in notes Rurouni_Kenshin - 27/09/2009 07:36:11 PM 1913 Views
Re: Jordan left tons of background info in notes StinkerSkunk - 27/09/2009 08:10:06 PM 1934 Views
Her entry in Encyclopaedia wot makes no mention of her being amyrlin *NM* NaClH2O - 28/09/2009 01:17:49 AM 1133 Views
Jordan could have easily added that to her backstory after LOC. It's been at least ten years. Rurouni_Kenshin - 28/09/2009 09:46:34 PM 1965 Views
Re: Jordan could have easily added that to her backstory after LOC. It's been at least ten years. StinkerSkunk - 28/09/2009 10:04:02 PM 1741 Views
Re: Chapter summary RugbyPlayingAshaman - 24/09/2009 06:50:36 PM 2009 Views
Can someone explain to me where Egwene developed this immense love for the Tower? Shannow - 24/09/2009 04:44:28 PM 2011 Views
Well, she's replaced everything else in her life with the Tower. Darth_Katie - 24/09/2009 04:47:05 PM 2037 Views
I always thought it was the small town thing Sidious - 24/09/2009 04:50:19 PM 1974 Views
Could it be that Fain could have contaminated her in tFOH? AliasRY - 24/09/2009 04:51:56 PM 1890 Views
Can Fain do that? Sidious - 24/09/2009 04:53:57 PM 1868 Views
No he can't (couldn't) DomA - 24/09/2009 05:02:21 PM 2077 Views
So you're saying that an antagonist is being portrayed as idiotic in this series? No way! Shannow - 24/09/2009 04:58:15 PM 1989 Views
I this case, I'm quite forgiving Sidious - 24/09/2009 05:36:59 PM 1893 Views
What has Gawyn done that demonstrates stupidity? Fanatic-Templar - 28/09/2009 05:21:39 AM 1856 Views
Ambitious people are like that redhand - 24/09/2009 05:08:27 PM 1936 Views
Re: Can someone explain to me where Egwene developed this immense love for the Tower? RugbyPlayingAshaman - 24/09/2009 06:01:46 PM 1881 Views
I don't think its necessarily for the tower itself FredWeasley - 24/09/2009 08:30:15 PM 1867 Views
This made my morning happy. Darth_Katie - 24/09/2009 04:45:08 PM 1956 Views
I think it's different. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 24/09/2009 05:51:11 PM 2020 Views
True. Darth_Katie - 24/09/2009 07:21:36 PM 2021 Views
Re: True. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 24/09/2009 07:30:06 PM 1879 Views
I also think Egwene might free them from it once she becomes recognized Amyrlin *NM* Deadsy - 24/09/2009 08:36:55 PM 1171 Views
Re: I think it's different. BlackAdder - 25/09/2009 03:24:22 AM 1875 Views
There's still a difference... fionwe1987 - 25/09/2009 04:28:55 AM 1777 Views
Re: There's still a difference... BlackAdder - 26/09/2009 12:30:28 PM 1792 Views
But... fionwe1987 - 26/09/2009 03:44:31 PM 1813 Views
Re: But... Amyrlin Seat - 26/09/2009 04:08:35 PM 1808 Views
She could have not bungled up... fionwe1987 - 26/09/2009 05:17:02 PM 1613 Views
In PoD, it is revealed that Alviarin makes Elaida swear obedience to her. BlackAdder - 26/09/2009 07:48:01 PM 1963 Views
he's saying that. Deadsy - 26/09/2009 10:12:16 PM 1705 Views
She also deposes Alviarin... fionwe1987 - 26/09/2009 10:47:07 PM 1772 Views
Egwene matured a bit, BUT redhand - 24/09/2009 04:51:53 PM 1850 Views
Ever had rancid oil? Kiera - 01/10/2009 08:42:59 PM 2566 Views
Is Alviarin finished? Sidious - 24/09/2009 04:52:31 PM 1967 Views
Two possibilities that come to mind RandAllThor - 24/09/2009 05:11:41 PM 1904 Views
Or Sidious - 24/09/2009 05:45:36 PM 2051 Views
Best idea ^ *NM* Deadsy - 24/09/2009 08:27:15 PM 1429 Views
Egwene knows about the letter, and soon the BA hunters will too. Rurouni_Kenshin - 24/09/2009 07:46:34 PM 1934 Views
She's got to be 'raised' to the shawl first, to take the 4 oaths. AgentOrange - 24/09/2009 10:33:42 PM 1861 Views
No they don't Rurouni_Kenshin - 24/09/2009 11:03:09 PM 1759 Views
Oh, I thought you meant Elaida's new obedience oath *NM* AgentOrange - 25/09/2009 09:15:48 AM 1092 Views
Her part will probably be... Etzel - 24/09/2009 06:06:08 PM 1932 Views
I think her mission has changed. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 24/09/2009 06:08:11 PM 1709 Views
Re: Is Alviarin finished? Gerbeaud - 24/09/2009 09:08:29 PM 1842 Views
Good 1st chapter of Egwene's plotline! Etzel - 24/09/2009 05:15:32 PM 1900 Views
Painful to listen to Bulgakov - 24/09/2009 05:33:22 PM 1955 Views
Not finished it yet MikeyMikeyMikey - 24/09/2009 05:42:18 PM 2034 Views
WHITE! sue - 24/09/2009 06:20:43 PM 1883 Views
Not White! (spoilers) And Seanchan attack idea. The Angry Druid - 28/09/2009 02:26:06 AM 1953 Views
Yes, Mesaana's plain white dress seems somewhat peculiar Etzel - 24/09/2009 06:43:45 PM 2020 Views
But what if she has no choice but to stay? MikeyMikeyMikey - 24/09/2009 08:02:01 PM 1684 Views
Are you kidding? Moridin would kill her AgentOrange - 24/09/2009 10:50:34 PM 1782 Views
She doesn't.. Etzel - 25/09/2009 06:36:22 AM 1746 Views
I doubt it - I'm of the opinion that Moridin may be next on SH's "personal attentions" list RugbyPlayingAshaman - 25/09/2009 05:16:38 PM 1903 Views
If this is true, it could be a ploy BlackAdder - 25/09/2009 03:06:45 AM 1876 Views
Plus, it avoids getting tangled in the Black Ajah hunt BlackAdder - 25/09/2009 03:11:38 AM 1659 Views
I struggle to think of Mesaana as a novice Sidious - 25/09/2009 05:16:57 AM 1876 Views
I disagree Marshall - 25/09/2009 11:08:34 AM 1964 Views
nice idea *NM* Deadsy - 24/09/2009 08:29:56 PM 1040 Views
I liked it *Spoilers* RugbyPlayingAshaman - 24/09/2009 05:49:41 PM 1844 Views
I think... Etzel - 24/09/2009 07:01:42 PM 2031 Views
Re: I think... RugbyPlayingAshaman - 24/09/2009 07:33:34 PM 1641 Views
Re: I think... Sidious - 24/09/2009 08:00:09 PM 1994 Views
Wasn't there a high turnover in War of Power as well? Rurouni_Kenshin - 24/09/2009 08:07:38 PM 1740 Views
Re: Wasn't there a high turnover in War of Power as well? Sidious - 25/09/2009 03:43:22 PM 1872 Views
Chosen have been mindtrapped before Rurouni_Kenshin - 25/09/2009 04:32:18 PM 1641 Views
Re: I think... Ryan - 25/09/2009 07:25:34 PM 1801 Views
Surely worse happened in the War of Power though before the seals were laid Rurouni_Kenshin - 24/09/2009 07:58:54 PM 1823 Views
I was totally caught off guard! entyti - 24/09/2009 05:50:39 PM 1853 Views
I all excited! sue - 24/09/2009 06:26:23 PM 1766 Views
Yay Deadsy - 24/09/2009 07:00:41 PM 2031 Views
Egwene is arrogant as ever...thinking Rand can't possibly get along without guidance *NM* Lanfear - 24/09/2009 08:25:24 PM 1260 Views
is she wrong? Deadsy - 24/09/2009 08:34:44 PM 1916 Views
The problem is that Egwene isn't honest with herself. Two afterthouts as edits Lanfear - 24/09/2009 08:43:38 PM 2090 Views
Re: The problem is that Egwene isn't honest with herself. Deadsy - 24/09/2009 08:46:09 PM 1876 Views
I'm sure Moridin knows how to too Isaac - 27/09/2009 03:59:49 PM 1770 Views
Re: is she wrong? BlackAdder - 25/09/2009 03:38:09 AM 1949 Views
Re: is she wrong? fionwe1987 - 25/09/2009 04:30:28 AM 1731 Views
You're totally wrong Lanfear - 25/09/2009 02:23:27 PM 1899 Views
Re: You're totally wrong Sidious - 25/09/2009 03:32:22 PM 1856 Views
but she was absolutely essential in the successful completion NaClH2O - 29/09/2009 02:55:13 PM 2109 Views
I like Egwene but I didn't like her statement Sidious - 25/09/2009 05:03:33 AM 2046 Views
I agree, and one more reason why I agree Lanfear - 25/09/2009 02:27:44 PM 1934 Views
I disagree in some ways Sidious - 25/09/2009 03:23:35 PM 1689 Views
I agree, and that is Rand's problem in the first place. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 25/09/2009 07:27:22 PM 1841 Views
Rand should invoke the 'Law of War' against the DO ajfurst - 25/09/2009 06:19:56 AM 1797 Views
She wants part of the glory. *NM* Bulgakov - 25/09/2009 06:31:47 AM 1017 Views
What will happen first: black ajah hunt ends or Seanchan attack the WT? Lanfear - 24/09/2009 08:38:43 PM 1973 Views
I can never decide what I think will happen Deadsy - 24/09/2009 08:44:03 PM 1918 Views
Re: I can never decide what I think will happen randfandom - 24/09/2009 09:25:18 PM 1834 Views
I disagree, the Rebels are better protected Rurouni_Kenshin - 24/09/2009 09:36:19 PM 1900 Views
I agree with you. Rebels are harder to take (rebels have Asha'man too) *NM* Lanfear - 24/09/2009 09:59:10 PM 1098 Views
So do the Tower Reds, only the Seanchan don't know that yet... Crackbrained Asha'man - 25/09/2009 04:46:17 AM 1747 Views
Yet according to one of Min's visions, Carlinya gets made "property" NaClH2O - 29/09/2009 03:09:28 PM 1694 Views
Re: Yet according to one of Min's visions, Carlinya gets made "property" StinkerSkunk - 29/09/2009 03:23:45 PM 1839 Views
OK, I didn't remember the details correctly NaClH2O - 29/09/2009 03:38:16 PM 1830 Views
Re: OK, I didn't remember the details correctly StinkerSkunk - 29/09/2009 04:11:22 PM 1891 Views
Harnan's tattoo is of a hawk, not a raven NaClH2O - 29/09/2009 04:37:27 PM 1904 Views
Oops. Then no other interpretations. StinkerSkunk - 29/09/2009 04:51:07 PM 1840 Views
Potential for conflicting prophecies? BlackAdder - 26/09/2009 08:49:04 PM 1625 Views
no.. urizen - 26/09/2009 09:12:52 PM 1723 Views
The title of book 13... Etzel - 24/09/2009 09:19:17 PM 1710 Views
Swing and a miss. The Dude - 24/09/2009 10:33:46 PM 1932 Views
As said Etzel - 25/09/2009 06:37:46 AM 1701 Views
Or maybe the fortress in the blight? Isaac - 25/09/2009 12:51:05 PM 1768 Views
Yes, those Towers... Etzel - 25/09/2009 03:10:40 PM 1834 Views
Seems unlikely to me. RandAllThor - 25/09/2009 01:44:27 PM 1845 Views
Yeah, that's possible. Etzel - 25/09/2009 03:11:33 PM 1811 Views
Egwene's surprising decision... Rand al'Thor - 25/09/2009 08:38:51 PM 1691 Views
I think it's an exaggeration Deadsy - 25/09/2009 09:01:22 PM 1818 Views
Re: Egwene's surprising decision... randfandom - 26/09/2009 12:58:51 AM 1851 Views
The Seanchan attack will happen first AgentOrange - 24/09/2009 10:47:50 PM 1709 Views
I think Egwene is building up an immunity to forkroot. *NM* Lanfear - 25/09/2009 02:03:58 AM 1115 Views
I'm kinda hoping Mesaana hands them all in a basket to Moridin. BlackAdder - 25/09/2009 02:51:55 AM 1616 Views
Egwene's respect reminds me of Niall's comment to Morgase ajfurst - 25/09/2009 03:39:19 AM 1754 Views
Both at once, I don't think it will be a neat A then B, or B then A ajfurst - 25/09/2009 03:53:30 AM 1796 Views
How would they possibly hear of Turan in Arad Doman? Lanfear - 25/09/2009 02:34:34 PM 1775 Views
Raken - they are used as messengers ajfurst - 25/09/2009 02:43:29 PM 1742 Views
Egwene... surprised me. It was great. fionwe1987 - 24/09/2009 08:49:36 PM 1657 Views
I didn't catch any hints as to Mesaana's identity. Were there any? Lanfear - 24/09/2009 08:51:23 PM 1738 Views
Katerine is Black Ajah Rurouni_Kenshin - 24/09/2009 10:48:14 PM 1816 Views
Also... this makes me miss RJ even more Deadsy - 24/09/2009 08:52:52 PM 2064 Views
I experienced just the opposite Bulgakov - 25/09/2009 06:40:53 AM 1902 Views
Totally disagree Rurouni_Kenshin - 25/09/2009 06:58:36 AM 1733 Views
This was a truely beautiful chapter *NM* AgentOrange - 24/09/2009 10:22:48 PM 1062 Views
Really? CupofDice - 24/09/2009 11:37:59 PM 1755 Views
Daaayyum - when did Elaida become such a baller/shot caller? BlackAdder - 24/09/2009 11:23:41 PM 1780 Views
I can't wait to actually read the chapter-- I thought it was very well written *NM* Matrimony Cauthon - 25/09/2009 12:18:48 AM 1053 Views
In regards to Alviarin. Heiko - 25/09/2009 01:32:09 AM 1870 Views
Could Elaida pass a 4th Oath? Sidious - 25/09/2009 05:13:08 AM 1793 Views
I think it would serve as motivation for those who say "You don't have to like the Amrylin" to turn. Seriana Sedai - 25/09/2009 06:08:19 AM 1816 Views
The Black Ajah would never stand for it, even if the other sisters would Rurouni_Kenshin - 25/09/2009 06:38:19 AM 1969 Views
And therein lies Elaida's genius... BlackAdder - 25/09/2009 07:08:48 PM 1928 Views
Re: The Black Ajah would never stand for it, even if the other sisters would Ryan - 26/09/2009 04:45:32 AM 1737 Views
Fain as the source of much of the Tower's woes Matrimony Cauthon - 25/09/2009 05:30:49 AM 1764 Views
No one else thinks Fain has had any influence on Elaida's erratic behavior? *NM* Matrimony Cauthon - 25/09/2009 05:32:05 PM 1099 Views
I agree. Fain is affecting her, for certain. NT *NM* The Angry Druid - 28/09/2009 02:30:45 AM 1138 Views
What about Mesaana? Darth_Katie - 25/09/2009 06:03:41 PM 1682 Views
Definitely Mesana-- but I was wondering if the Shadar Logoth taint leaked onto Elaida a little Matrimony Cauthon - 25/09/2009 07:43:24 PM 1887 Views
Mat vs Egwene Sidious - 25/09/2009 03:34:35 PM 1814 Views
Re: Mat vs Egwene Rurouni_Kenshin - 25/09/2009 03:38:39 PM 1795 Views
Re: Mat vs Egwene Sidious - 25/09/2009 03:40:32 PM 1813 Views
Re: Mat vs Egwene Gerbeaud - 25/09/2009 04:16:16 PM 1818 Views
We already saw Mat confront Egwene in Salidar. What more Lanfear - 25/09/2009 04:18:21 PM 1949 Views
Re: We already saw Mat confront Egwene in Salidar. What more Gerbeaud - 25/09/2009 04:37:04 PM 1851 Views
That's not his argument though Rurouni_Kenshin - 25/09/2009 04:34:35 PM 1654 Views
Ah okay. Sidious - 25/09/2009 04:36:00 PM 1762 Views
She seemed okay with it in KoD Rurouni_Kenshin - 25/09/2009 04:38:53 PM 1894 Views
I think... Etzel - 25/09/2009 03:47:26 PM 1886 Views
Nice ideas! *NM* Sidious - 25/09/2009 03:51:01 PM 1550 Views
That is really good idea Matrimony Cauthon - 25/09/2009 08:12:34 PM 1989 Views
Though... Etzel - 26/09/2009 01:32:18 PM 1835 Views
Re: Mat vs Egwene Seriana Sedai - 25/09/2009 06:15:56 PM 1644 Views
egwene and elaida's 4th oath aldapelan - 25/09/2009 03:51:36 PM 1783 Views
Egwene's Hypocrisy here is astounding: The Angry Druid - 29/09/2009 03:39:25 AM 1776 Views
Egwene and Mesaana Darth_Katie - 25/09/2009 06:07:37 PM 1831 Views
Come now...even though Mesaana is whimpy for a Forsaken, she would wipe the floor with Egwene... Shannow - 25/09/2009 06:10:13 PM 1853 Views
Alright, I *may* have overlooked that significant point. Darth_Katie - 25/09/2009 06:21:09 PM 1688 Views
Agreed Sidious - 26/09/2009 06:36:01 AM 1747 Views
Depends on where the battle takes place. TAR = Egwene win. The Angry Druid - 02/10/2009 06:10:07 PM 1849 Views
Egwene would need to lead a circle or use an angreal to beat her. *NM* Rurouni_Kenshin - 25/09/2009 06:31:42 PM 1074 Views
Unless it was based on willpower as in a conflict within Tel'Aran'Rhiod RugbyPlayingAshaman - 25/09/2009 07:19:50 PM 1758 Views
Humph. Great Lord of Chaos - 26/09/2009 03:27:09 AM 1710 Views
She was overconfident Rurouni_Kenshin - 26/09/2009 03:24:51 PM 1753 Views
A lie by Elaida? Etzel - 27/09/2009 02:31:36 PM 2028 Views
Re: A lie by Elaida? StinkerSkunk - 27/09/2009 02:50:49 PM 1772 Views
Re: A lie by Elaida? Amyrlin Seat - 27/09/2009 03:01:06 PM 1719 Views
I don't think it covers things like that Isaac - 27/09/2009 04:10:05 PM 1736 Views
She believes what she said *NM* Sidious - 28/09/2009 04:51:52 AM 1055 Views
Remember, perspective. Great Lord of Chaos - 29/09/2009 12:14:59 AM 1656 Views
It might well be true BlackAdder - 29/09/2009 12:38:20 AM 1763 Views
Well... that elicited quite a reaction. Fanatic-Templar - 28/09/2009 06:25:52 AM 1581 Views
I had many of those same thoughts. Narg - 28/09/2009 05:27:43 PM 1836 Views
Re: I had many of those same thoughts. Watcher - 28/09/2009 06:42:56 PM 1586 Views
Re: I had many of those same thoughts. Knightscape - 28/09/2009 11:08:00 PM 1740 Views
She'll do everything to re-unite the Tower - except anything that could actually re-unite it ajfurst - 29/09/2009 02:26:10 AM 1831 Views
I've just learned to skip any female POV's written by RJ Lord o' Salv - 29/09/2009 04:38:45 AM 1771 Views
Hmmm.... fionwe1987 - 29/09/2009 05:30:44 AM 1814 Views
Re: Hmmm.... Fanatic-Templar - 29/09/2009 06:26:17 AM 1819 Views
Ridiculous Rurouni_Kenshin - 30/09/2009 12:34:07 AM 1642 Views
Very. Fanatic-Templar - 30/09/2009 02:40:07 AM 1770 Views
Re: Hmmm.... fionwe1987 - 30/09/2009 03:00:01 AM 1765 Views
Re: Hmmm.... Fanatic-Templar - 30/09/2009 04:32:14 AM 1821 Views
Re: Hmmm.... fionwe1987 - 01/10/2009 03:23:21 AM 1731 Views
Re: Hmmm.... Fanatic-Templar - 01/10/2009 04:51:14 AM 1751 Views
Re: Hmmm.... RandAllThor - 03/10/2009 01:57:24 PM 2097 Views
That's Mesaana's purpose actually *NM* guttering flame - 06/11/2009 07:03:12 AM 1019 Views
Elaida, Formidable? Rurouni_Kenshin - 29/09/2009 11:48:04 PM 1915 Views
How do you figure? Fanatic-Templar - 30/09/2009 12:15:47 AM 1554 Views
Aside from successfuly orchastrate the coup what has she done? Rurouni_Kenshin - 30/09/2009 12:35:07 AM 1793 Views
Re: Aside from successfuly orchastrate the coup what has she done? Fanatic-Templar - 30/09/2009 02:29:37 AM 1679 Views
Broke the Black Ajah's hold on the Amyrlin seat??????? Rurouni_Kenshin - 30/09/2009 06:09:08 PM 1642 Views
Ignore *NM* Rurouni_Kenshin - 30/09/2009 06:20:12 PM 1029 Views
Oh yeah, and... Fanatic-Templar - 29/09/2009 04:22:57 AM 1934 Views
Egwene in this chapter... fionwe1987 - 29/09/2009 05:04:35 AM 1874 Views
Re: Egwene in this chapter... Fanatic-Templar - 29/09/2009 05:59:33 AM 1976 Views
Author thoughts - Audiobook versus reading ajfurst - 29/09/2009 05:30:39 AM 1778 Views
Yes, I've felt very much the same *NM* AgentOrange - 29/09/2009 12:52:52 PM 1163 Views
A lot of that is the narrator Isaac - 29/09/2009 04:36:47 PM 1837 Views
The Dark One's Touch Rurouni_Kenshin - 30/09/2009 06:21:24 PM 1879 Views
Good point! *NM* Etzel - 30/09/2009 06:26:51 PM 1090 Views
Re: The Dark One's Touch Sidious - 30/09/2009 06:44:53 PM 1665 Views
What about the person who has the ter'angreal dagger? Lanfear - 30/09/2009 07:11:18 PM 1619 Views
Re: What about the person who has the ter'angreal dagger? Rurouni_Kenshin - 30/09/2009 07:17:06 PM 1878 Views
The Irony of Elaida dadof5 - 30/09/2009 11:10:08 PM 1779 Views
LOL, I agree. Great Lord of Chaos - 01/10/2009 02:47:18 AM 1752 Views
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