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Ah okay. Sidious Send a noteboard - 25/09/2009 04:36:00 PM

Do you really think it will play out in that manner, though?

It's possible that Mat disagrees with Tuon on the invasion, but I can't see Egwene taking this well.

I'm not sure it's a worthy defense though... "I saved Aes Sedai, so I can destroy the Tower." A little lame, if you ask me.


His argument will be I'm not planning or working toward destroying the Tower, I'm actively waging war against my wife and her is the evidence.


I wonder how Tuon will take it then :)
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Ignore *NM* Rurouni_Kenshin - 30/09/2009 06:20:12 PM 1353 Views
Oh yeah, and... Fanatic-Templar - 29/09/2009 04:22:57 AM 2505 Views
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Re: Egwene in this chapter... Fanatic-Templar - 29/09/2009 05:59:33 AM 2592 Views
Author thoughts - Audiobook versus reading ajfurst - 29/09/2009 05:30:39 AM 2335 Views
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The Dark One's Touch Rurouni_Kenshin - 30/09/2009 06:21:24 PM 2481 Views
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LOL, I agree. Great Lord of Chaos - 01/10/2009 02:47:18 AM 2322 Views
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