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Re: Maybe, maybe not Fanatic-Templar Send a noteboard - 15/02/2012 06:11:42 PM
RJ never really went into the OP defying properties of C. The fireballs are pure weaves of fire, no weave, no fire, no heat. We also do not know about the heat transferance properties of C. For all we know it could pass heat like tin foil, or be so resistant to it you could hold it in your hand while someone plays a palsma torch over it. We just don't know. Lightning might or might not be effective. C started as iron, but is it still ferrous? If not, just how perfect an insulator is it? It could be such a high value insulator that lighting will not strike it, again we just don't know.


I agree we can't know if lightning would work or not, but you're the one who asserted that cuendillar would be useful against channelers, so the burden of proof is on you. As for fireballs, heartstone does not break weaves, it's just invulnerable to them, and since as I've mentioned we know that cuendillar requires cracks in the armour, fire could easily seep through. Just because you're wearing something indestructible does not make you indestructible.

An interesting debate might be what would happen if someone wearing C armor got hit by balefire. Balefire is pure OP that burns you out of the pattern backwards, but C is immune to the OP. Would it just wash off you, or could (theoretically) a channeler use enough OP to burn far enough back to before you put it on, or before the armor was converted from iron...


It's much simpler than that. Again, while the armour is resistant to balefire, the person inside is not. We don't even know that cuendillar even deflects balefire, but even if it does, the armour remains full of cracks. For an analogy, a house may not be swept away by a flood, but people and objects inside are not therefore automatically safe.

My position is simple. C armor would not be hard to make, making it would not violate any of the oaths, and C armor is substantially better than normal armor. just how much better is something we can go round and round on because only RJ could have given a definitive answer; but he never did.


Actually,Cuendillar armour would be substantially difficult to make. A soldier wearing one would have a king's fortune on his back.
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Functional Cuendillar Armor: Possible or impossible? - 10/02/2012 04:45:34 PM 1732 Views
You posted this exact same question one year ago, with a lot of discussion - 10/02/2012 06:29:28 PM 1200 Views
You busted him! I wonder why he would post it again... *NM* - 10/02/2012 07:25:47 PM 620 Views
I suppose I am on a... - 10/02/2012 11:00:47 PM 1129 Views
No, you go back and re-read what everyone said. - 11/02/2012 11:02:47 PM 1197 Views
We're actually losing them by the troves. My apologies. *NM* - 12/02/2012 02:52:01 AM 577 Views
I rest my case. - 10/05/2012 04:34:02 PM 1104 Views
Re: You posted this exact same question one year ago, with a lot of discussion - 11/02/2012 01:37:27 PM 1272 Views
Agreed. - 11/02/2012 06:24:36 PM 1067 Views
why not some plate armor. duh. *NM* - 12/02/2012 09:54:43 PM 619 Views
See? - 10/05/2012 04:35:25 PM 1076 Views
Possible, but hard. - 11/02/2012 01:56:03 AM 1230 Views
scale or plate armor would be quite easy *NM* - 11/02/2012 01:38:47 PM 537 Views
My thought was always about weapons. - 11/02/2012 06:31:45 AM 1333 Views
Re: My thought was always about weapons. - 12/02/2012 10:51:43 AM 1120 Views
Re: My thought was always about weapons. - 14/02/2012 01:53:59 PM 1107 Views
Should be perfectly feasible - 11/02/2012 12:28:47 PM 1111 Views
Exactly - 11/02/2012 01:53:24 PM 1116 Views
Certainly possible, but given the effort most women have to put toward changing even a small item - 12/02/2012 05:10:35 AM 1199 Views
Ummm, Warders... - 14/02/2012 01:39:23 PM 1061 Views
How would Cuendillar armour help against channelers? - 14/02/2012 07:58:58 PM 1107 Views
It can not be directly effected by the OP - 14/02/2012 09:08:57 PM 997 Views
some simple ideas for defeating warders armoured such. - 14/02/2012 09:52:41 PM 1158 Views
Re: some simple ideas for defeating warders armoured such. - 14/02/2012 10:54:26 PM 977 Views
which way is it? - 15/02/2012 04:14:41 AM 984 Views
Actually I'd call the Seanchan tactically inferior to the White Tower in using the power - 15/02/2012 01:48:55 PM 1098 Views
That's really not my point. - 15/02/2012 03:21:15 PM 993 Views
My point is - 15/02/2012 03:52:43 PM 965 Views
Agree on all points *NM* - 15/02/2012 07:06:09 PM 677 Views
I never said that they could not be stopped - 15/02/2012 01:58:41 PM 1074 Views
I really think you're over-estimating how difficult it would be. - 15/02/2012 03:22:44 PM 1048 Views
Not nesecarrily - 15/02/2012 04:01:45 PM 1031 Views
You just said that most of their tactics are indirect. - 15/02/2012 05:44:22 PM 1133 Views
..and you are creating new tactics - 15/02/2012 06:32:02 PM 1010 Views
*shrug* I don't see it as some world-shaking action - 15/02/2012 08:47:40 PM 960 Views
Not accurate - 15/02/2012 03:54:00 PM 1097 Views
You are thinking too far inside the box - 15/02/2012 04:23:28 PM 1070 Views
I disagree - 15/02/2012 04:43:33 PM 1032 Views
If armor is of no benefit... - 15/02/2012 06:19:30 PM 961 Views
Missing my point ... Cuendillar armor is impractical not useless - 15/02/2012 07:00:48 PM 1093 Views
nope - 15/02/2012 07:21:03 PM 968 Views
*Shrug* - 15/02/2012 08:28:48 PM 1135 Views
Re: *Shrug* - 15/02/2012 09:07:24 PM 1290 Views
Re: It can not be directly effected by the OP - 15/02/2012 02:37:40 AM 973 Views
Maybe, maybe not - 15/02/2012 02:12:59 PM 948 Views
Re: Maybe, maybe not - 15/02/2012 06:11:42 PM 1150 Views
I'll happily amend my initial statement to "maybe even challeling ones" - 15/02/2012 07:03:48 PM 992 Views
Fair enough. - 16/02/2012 02:08:19 AM 990 Views
what a lot of people are forgetting with their suggestions of plate armor... - 13/02/2012 02:36:50 PM 1159 Views
Your understanding of how plate armor functions is in error - 14/02/2012 01:45:37 PM 1009 Views
I believe AND I was hoping you would go into the physics of it :p - 14/02/2012 11:01:18 PM 975 Views
here ya go, I still skipped almost all of the math though. - 15/02/2012 03:00:09 PM 1101 Views
Two things: *NM* - 16/02/2012 04:03:52 PM 601 Views

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