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Ch2 : Pevara & Androl and channeling implications Sidious Send a noteboard - 24/10/2012 06:40:47 PM

I loved the chapter between Pevara and Androl. It reminded me of how the very first channelers must have interacted. I found the following interesting...

1. Androl directly compares his strength to her and says that she is 'very strong'. He is very weak in the Power, but its extremely important that a male can compare his power to a woman. Androl has felt saidin in other Asha'aman though he's never channeled so much as when he linked with her, but his comment was interesting. It seems that Pevara is perhaps significantly powerful even compared to other men.

2. Pevara wonders if the strength required to Travel is the same between men and women.

3. Androl draws on Pevara's ability and starts to lift objects in the room. Most interestingly she cannot see the weaves even though he's weaving with saidar too. I was wondering whether this was a mistake. When Sammael linked with Graendal the Shaido Wise Ones said that she was weaving a barrier. He was using saidar and they could see it, though this chapter implies that if a male leads a circle he actually uses saidar to reinforce his weaves. In a way he 'converts' it to saidin... Pevara even wonders if he is filtering it.

4. They bond each other. The scene was actually quite funny. It seems that she can sense his strength in the Power using the bond. Interesting!

Any other thoughts?
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Ch2 : Pevara & Androl and channeling implications - 24/10/2012 06:40:47 PM 2896 Views
Did Perva actually initiate the link or was it Androl? *NM* - 24/10/2012 07:02:15 PM 742 Views
Androl did. *NM* - 25/10/2012 05:10:31 AM 999 Views
But didn't Nynaeve do it first at the cleansing? - 25/10/2012 12:43:15 PM 1237 Views
Pevara was thinking on very sketchy information. - 25/10/2012 08:56:20 PM 1173 Views
did he start the link? or just take it? - 27/10/2012 07:33:49 AM 876 Views
I think it's slightly off - 28/10/2012 04:21:05 PM 1149 Views
Re: Ch2 : Pevara & Androl and channeling implications - 25/10/2012 05:13:43 AM 1387 Views
Re: Ch2 : Pevara & Androl and channeling implications - 25/10/2012 04:23:20 PM 1194 Views
Re: Ch2 : Pevara & Androl and channeling implications - 25/10/2012 09:52:03 PM 1238 Views
Travelling - 25/10/2012 08:56:41 AM 1234 Views
Yes that's a pet theory of mine - 25/10/2012 04:21:53 PM 1253 Views
Re: Yes that's a pet theory of mine - 25/10/2012 06:12:21 PM 1150 Views
Re: Yes that's a pet theory of mine - 25/10/2012 08:50:15 PM 1089 Views
Re: Yes that's a pet theory of mine - 25/10/2012 09:45:26 PM 1174 Views
Weren't there 150 or so at Maradon? *NM* - 26/10/2012 03:29:53 PM 654 Views
Re: Yes that's a pet theory of mine - 26/10/2012 08:49:58 PM 1286 Views
Perhaps, but if no on in the AoL could do it when mixed circles were common - 28/10/2012 04:22:20 PM 969 Views
How strong Pevara is... - 25/10/2012 07:08:26 PM 1316 Views
I'm pretty sure Moiraine is closer to 30... - 25/10/2012 07:41:37 PM 1032 Views
Agreed - 25/10/2012 08:37:24 PM 1121 Views
So... the old story of ignore the bell curve, eh? - 26/10/2012 01:40:49 AM 1091 Views
No, I fully respect the bell curve - 26/10/2012 01:51:34 PM 1141 Views
That was disproved long ago... - 26/10/2012 01:36:24 AM 1107 Views
But Moiraine isn't 'exceptionally strong' - 26/10/2012 05:16:10 AM 1151 Views
Not particularly strong evidence for that last. - 26/10/2012 05:36:54 AM 1103 Views
But we know that it takes significantly more strength to maintain multiple weaves - 26/10/2012 08:14:58 AM 1016 Views
Not true - 27/10/2012 09:15:51 PM 1027 Views
Not accurate - 27/10/2012 09:31:05 PM 1015 Views
The Bell Curve explained... - 26/10/2012 10:27:34 AM 1073 Views
Re: The Bell Curve explained... - 26/10/2012 11:40:04 AM 1071 Views
Re: The Bell Curve explained... - 26/10/2012 12:32:01 PM 997 Views
Re: The Bell Curve explained... - 26/10/2012 12:48:51 PM 1105 Views
Re: The Bell Curve explained... - 26/10/2012 01:07:39 PM 1086 Views
Re: The Bell Curve explained... - 26/10/2012 01:18:32 PM 1110 Views
Re: The Bell Curve explained... - 26/10/2012 01:57:18 PM 1154 Views
Re: The Bell Curve explained... - 28/10/2012 02:07:39 PM 842 Views
Yet Sharina, Nynaeve etc exist, thus the BC is the same - 27/10/2012 09:39:58 PM 1192 Views
The curve is OBVIOUSLY the same... - 28/10/2012 01:50:37 AM 954 Views
Re: The curve is OBVIOUSLY the same... - 28/10/2012 02:01:59 PM 1043 Views
You need to go read RJ's quotes: - 28/10/2012 02:41:49 PM 1059 Views
Re: You need to go read RJ's quotes: - 28/10/2012 05:39:12 PM 965 Views
I need to come and save you from blatant fallacies being spouted by the loonies. - 28/10/2012 05:56:21 PM 978 Views
This is like watching a train-wreck. - 29/10/2012 02:58:51 AM 934 Views
Re: This is like watching a train-wreck. - 29/10/2012 01:10:35 PM 1152 Views
So what's your conclusion? - 29/10/2012 02:14:33 PM 932 Views
His conclusion is that RJ was right about the books he wrote... - 29/10/2012 02:19:59 PM 1059 Views
Pretty much... - 30/10/2012 12:57:41 AM 1147 Views
Excellent points... - 29/10/2012 02:16:39 PM 915 Views
Re: Excellent points... - 29/10/2012 02:47:30 PM 1040 Views
You seem confused. - 29/10/2012 03:22:47 PM 916 Views
Re: You seem confused. - 29/10/2012 03:41:48 PM 968 Views
I think the point is that the AS didn't go force every woman in the area - 29/10/2012 07:57:59 PM 911 Views
Re: You seem confused. - 29/10/2012 08:23:22 PM 1063 Views
Re: You seem confused. - 29/10/2012 08:57:11 PM 1060 Views
He drew graphs! - 30/10/2012 12:49:09 AM 940 Views
Re: He drew graphs! - 30/10/2012 07:43:54 AM 998 Views
Re: He drew graphs! - 30/10/2012 01:57:05 PM 961 Views
Re: Excellent points... - 30/10/2012 12:20:00 AM 991 Views
Re: Excellent points... - 30/10/2012 07:49:57 AM 1003 Views
Re: Excellent points... - 30/10/2012 01:05:45 PM 1341 Views
Re: Excellent points... - 30/10/2012 01:25:11 PM 1020 Views
Re: Excellent points... - 30/10/2012 12:20:17 AM 1093 Views
AS recruiting is minimal - 28/10/2012 10:41:29 PM 969 Views
Re: You need to go read RJ's quotes: - 29/10/2012 02:23:27 AM 969 Views
Re: You need to go read RJ's quotes: - 29/10/2012 07:33:44 AM 968 Views
Huh? - 29/10/2012 02:26:27 PM 979 Views
Re: Huh? - 29/10/2012 02:42:07 PM 943 Views
You don't seem to know what random means... - 29/10/2012 03:25:57 PM 955 Views
Re: You don't seem to know what random means... - 29/10/2012 03:36:45 PM 985 Views
Personally I just think that 1000 women being allowed to tag along is a drop - 29/10/2012 08:05:33 PM 1006 Views
Re: Personally I just think that 1000 women being allowed to tag along is a drop - 29/10/2012 09:04:02 PM 1024 Views
Geography alone can do this - 30/10/2012 12:39:53 AM 961 Views
Re: Geography alone can do this - 30/10/2012 09:45:58 AM 947 Views
Not really - 30/10/2012 02:49:05 PM 939 Views
Here's why its not random... - 30/10/2012 01:04:18 AM 933 Views
Re: Here's why its not random... - 30/10/2012 09:42:35 AM 1076 Views
Re: Here's why its not random... - 30/10/2012 01:51:03 PM 933 Views
Re: Here's why its not random... - 30/10/2012 02:21:04 PM 975 Views
YEah, there's no point debating this... - 30/10/2012 02:46:39 PM 939 Views
Genetics plays a role - 30/10/2012 03:03:41 PM 1085 Views
Re: You don't seem to know what random means... - 29/10/2012 08:22:40 PM 923 Views
Re: You don't seem to know what random means... - 29/10/2012 09:06:08 PM 966 Views
Why must there be a mechanism? - 30/10/2012 01:06:29 AM 946 Views
Re: Why must there be a mechanism? - 30/10/2012 09:48:16 AM 869 Views
Nope... - 30/10/2012 01:43:56 PM 1078 Views
Re: Nope... - 30/10/2012 02:34:51 PM 927 Views
Oh my... - 30/10/2012 02:50:12 PM 993 Views
Thought experment time! Hurrah! - 30/10/2012 03:27:01 PM 942 Views
But it is still possible in your example to get wildly varied results - 30/10/2012 03:30:59 PM 891 Views
Re: But it is still possible in your example to get wildly varied results - 30/10/2012 03:36:03 PM 975 Views
LOL - 30/10/2012 04:49:06 PM 1509 Views
Re: Yet Sharina, Nynaeve etc exist, thus the BC is the same - 28/10/2012 01:39:55 PM 936 Views
The point is there are still people being born in the highest strength categories - 28/10/2012 04:18:55 PM 986 Views
Re: The point is there are still people being born in the highest strength categories - 28/10/2012 05:21:44 PM 974 Views
The curve hasn't shifted! - 28/10/2012 05:39:42 PM 1056 Views
The fact is, Moiraine is not half as strong as Lanfear, hence she is below average strength. - 28/10/2012 06:02:04 PM 1012 Views
How is this fact? - 29/10/2012 02:59:49 AM 1010 Views
Re: How is this fact? - 29/10/2012 07:04:15 PM 987 Views
Not so - 29/10/2012 08:09:29 PM 955 Views
Re: Not so - 29/10/2012 08:43:16 PM 1028 Views
Sure it is - 30/10/2012 01:43:39 AM 922 Views
Explain Elza-Merise-Cadsuane then... - 29/10/2012 08:20:14 PM 952 Views
Re: Explain Elza-Merise-Cadsuane then... - 29/10/2012 08:38:11 PM 985 Views
Are you blind man? - 30/10/2012 01:12:26 AM 986 Views
Re: Are you blind man? - 30/10/2012 09:23:37 AM 1025 Views
Cadsuane is just below Egwene... - 30/10/2012 01:37:54 PM 953 Views
Your strength scores don't square with the Pevara quote - 30/10/2012 03:15:22 PM 959 Views
Re: The curve hasn't shifted! - 28/10/2012 07:36:36 PM 984 Views
On Raw strength scores I think you are pretty inline with my thinking - 27/10/2012 09:37:25 PM 1120 Views
And the facing a Foresaken comment is out of context anyway... - 28/10/2012 01:56:12 AM 1075 Views
Excellent point on raw v. Effective strength *NM* - 28/10/2012 04:13:21 PM 651 Views

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