That depends on what controls channeling, doesn't it? if it's genetic, is it completely unlikely that it's controlled by more than one gene, and that having two parents with the right genes could make potentially make you a stronger channeler than having just one parent with those genes? And if channeling is controlled by the soul, who is to say which souls the pattern spins out? If there are ages when channeling is unknown, why not ages when channelers are weaker?
Its soul based. Both transmigrated Foresaken and the one known definite rebirth of a soul have exactly the same strength they had before. Heck, a male Foresaken in a female body still channeled saidin. Genetics allows you to channel or not. It has nothing to do with how strong you are.
Also, I don't know if anyone has done this before, but I made a plot of the famous bell curve, by using <a href="http://13depository.blogspot.no/2009/02/saidar-strength-ranking.html">data from the Thirteenth Depository</a>, not including the female Forsaken. Assuming that those data are correct, and that this is a sufficiently large sample, I would say it seems to peak somewhat below the middle. Also, large numbers of novices and accepted are sent away without becoming Aes Sedai. If they are sent away because they are too weak, the peak would be even lower than this chart suggests.
Yeah, that's all wrong. For one thing, RJ said strength is distributed over a bell curve, not strength levels. You're plotting the wrong data points.
That said, obviously each level corresponds to a range on the strength scale (whatever it was in RJ's, we can take it to be 1-100 and it will still work the same). The 21 levels are distributed over this scale. We don't know if each level represents an equal interval in the strength scale, but assuming we do, we'd expect a peak around 10/11, which is where you find it. However, you also need to note that the sampling in that list is atrocious. We tend to see and hear more about stronger Aes Sedai and very little about women too weak to become AS. That definitely causes skewing. Plus, the list is very subjective, and tries to make quantitative differences between "strong" and "very strong" and such terms.
To me, it looks like the average strength today is at something like a third of Lanfear's strength. This in itself doesn't prove anything, and with very little data available from the Age of Legends, I don't see how it's possible to make any solid claims about the distribution being different or not.
RJ spoke of the same bell curve holding now. He said strength was distributed over a bell curve. That 67.5% of channelers in that curve would be strong enough to be Aes Sedai. That this is true only in the modern age, since in the AoL, anyone</> could become Aes Sedai. There's no doubt at all that its the same bell curve.
Ch2 : Pevara & Androl and channeling implications
- 24/10/2012 06:40:47 PM
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Did Perva actually initiate the link or was it Androl? *NM*
- 24/10/2012 07:02:15 PM
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Androl did. *NM*
- 25/10/2012 05:10:31 AM
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But didn't Nynaeve do it first at the cleansing?
- 25/10/2012 12:43:15 PM
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Pevara was thinking on very sketchy information.
- 25/10/2012 08:56:20 PM
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Re: Ch2 : Pevara & Androl and channeling implications
- 25/10/2012 05:13:43 AM
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Travelling
- 25/10/2012 08:56:41 AM
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Yes that's a pet theory of mine
- 25/10/2012 04:21:53 PM
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Re: Yes that's a pet theory of mine
- 25/10/2012 06:12:21 PM
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Re: Yes that's a pet theory of mine
- 25/10/2012 08:50:15 PM
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Perhaps, but if no on in the AoL could do it when mixed circles were common
- 28/10/2012 04:22:20 PM
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How strong Pevara is...
- 25/10/2012 07:08:26 PM
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I'm pretty sure Moiraine is closer to 30...
- 25/10/2012 07:41:37 PM
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Agreed
- 25/10/2012 08:37:24 PM
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That was disproved long ago...
- 26/10/2012 01:36:24 AM
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But Moiraine isn't 'exceptionally strong'
- 26/10/2012 05:16:10 AM
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Not particularly strong evidence for that last.
- 26/10/2012 05:36:54 AM
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But we know that it takes significantly more strength to maintain multiple weaves
- 26/10/2012 08:14:58 AM
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The Bell Curve explained...
- 26/10/2012 10:27:34 AM
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Re: The Bell Curve explained...
- 26/10/2012 11:40:04 AM
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Re: The Bell Curve explained...
- 26/10/2012 12:32:01 PM
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Re: The Bell Curve explained...
- 26/10/2012 12:48:51 PM
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Re: The Bell Curve explained...
- 26/10/2012 01:07:39 PM
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Re: The Bell Curve explained...
- 26/10/2012 01:18:32 PM
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Yet Sharina, Nynaeve etc exist, thus the BC is the same
- 27/10/2012 09:39:58 PM
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The curve is OBVIOUSLY the same...
- 28/10/2012 01:50:37 AM
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Re: The curve is OBVIOUSLY the same...
- 28/10/2012 02:01:59 PM
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You need to go read RJ's quotes:
- 28/10/2012 02:41:49 PM
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Re: You need to go read RJ's quotes:
- 28/10/2012 05:39:12 PM
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I need to come and save you from blatant fallacies being spouted by the loonies.
- 28/10/2012 05:56:21 PM
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Re: I need to come and save you from blatant fallacies being spouted by the loonies.
- 28/10/2012 07:44:02 PM
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This is like watching a train-wreck.
- 29/10/2012 02:58:51 AM
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Re: This is like watching a train-wreck.
- 29/10/2012 01:10:35 PM
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So what's your conclusion?
- 29/10/2012 02:14:33 PM
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you do realize that is an impossible question to answer from the books right?
- 29/10/2012 07:50:02 PM
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Excellent points...
- 29/10/2012 02:16:39 PM
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Re: Excellent points...
- 29/10/2012 02:47:30 PM
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You seem confused.
- 29/10/2012 03:22:47 PM
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Re: You seem confused.
- 29/10/2012 03:41:48 PM
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I think the point is that the AS didn't go force every woman in the area
- 29/10/2012 07:57:59 PM
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Re: You seem confused.
- 29/10/2012 08:23:22 PM
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Re: You seem confused.
- 29/10/2012 08:57:11 PM
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He drew graphs!
- 30/10/2012 12:49:09 AM
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He drew graphs!
- 30/10/2012 12:49:09 AM
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Re: Excellent points...
- 30/10/2012 12:20:00 AM
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Re: Excellent points...
- 30/10/2012 07:49:57 AM
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Re: You need to go read RJ's quotes:
- 29/10/2012 02:23:27 AM
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Re: You need to go read RJ's quotes:
- 29/10/2012 07:33:44 AM
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Huh?
- 29/10/2012 02:26:27 PM
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Re: Huh?
- 29/10/2012 02:42:07 PM
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You don't seem to know what random means...
- 29/10/2012 03:25:57 PM
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Re: You don't seem to know what random means...
- 29/10/2012 03:36:45 PM
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Personally I just think that 1000 women being allowed to tag along is a drop
- 29/10/2012 08:05:33 PM
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Re: Personally I just think that 1000 women being allowed to tag along is a drop
- 29/10/2012 09:04:02 PM
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Geography alone can do this
- 30/10/2012 12:39:53 AM
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Here's why its not random...
- 30/10/2012 01:04:18 AM
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Re: Here's why its not random...
- 30/10/2012 09:42:35 AM
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Re: Here's why its not random...
- 30/10/2012 01:51:03 PM
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Re: You don't seem to know what random means...
- 29/10/2012 08:22:40 PM
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Re: You don't seem to know what random means...
- 29/10/2012 09:06:08 PM
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Why must there be a mechanism?
- 30/10/2012 01:06:29 AM
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Re: Why must there be a mechanism?
- 30/10/2012 09:48:16 AM
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Nope...
- 30/10/2012 01:43:56 PM
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Re: Nope...
- 30/10/2012 02:34:51 PM
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Oh my...
- 30/10/2012 02:50:12 PM
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Thought experment time! Hurrah!
- 30/10/2012 03:27:01 PM
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But it is still possible in your example to get wildly varied results
- 30/10/2012 03:30:59 PM
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Re: But it is still possible in your example to get wildly varied results
- 30/10/2012 03:36:03 PM
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Re: Yet Sharina, Nynaeve etc exist, thus the BC is the same
- 28/10/2012 01:39:55 PM
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The point is there are still people being born in the highest strength categories
- 28/10/2012 04:18:55 PM
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Re: The point is there are still people being born in the highest strength categories
- 28/10/2012 05:21:44 PM
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The curve hasn't shifted!
- 28/10/2012 05:39:42 PM
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The fact is, Moiraine is not half as strong as Lanfear, hence she is below average strength.
- 28/10/2012 06:02:04 PM
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Re: The fact is, Moiraine is not half as strong as Lanfear, hence she is below average strength.
- 28/10/2012 07:27:26 PM
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There is not a single quote in the series that states Moiraine is less than half the strength
- 28/10/2012 10:31:28 PM
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How is this fact?
- 29/10/2012 02:59:49 AM
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Re: How is this fact?
- 29/10/2012 07:04:15 PM
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Explain Elza-Merise-Cadsuane then...
- 29/10/2012 08:20:14 PM
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Re: Explain Elza-Merise-Cadsuane then...
- 29/10/2012 08:38:11 PM
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Are you blind man?
- 30/10/2012 01:12:26 AM
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Re: The curve hasn't shifted!
- 28/10/2012 07:36:36 PM
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Well the most obvious thing is that RJ was quoted on the subject any number of times
- 28/10/2012 11:34:18 PM
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On Raw strength scores I think you are pretty inline with my thinking
- 27/10/2012 09:37:25 PM
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