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Not so darius_sedai Send a noteboard - 29/10/2012 08:09:29 PM

Hence, all modern Aes Sedai fall below the mean of the Bell Curve.

Where did we learn Moiraine wasn't half as strong as Lanfear? Enlighten me to this quote.


Its where Aviendha tells Egwene that she's stronger than Amys and Melaine combined. And considering Amys is as strong as Moiraine and Lanfear is vastly more powerful than Egwene, its confirmatory evidence. Aviendha's direct quote is one of those useful pieces of information that you and Darius throw out because it doesn't fulfil your unlikely theories.


Moiraine herself tells us that Egwene and Aviendha, who are not at full potential, could overwhelm a female Forsaken. At the time Egwene isn't much stronger than Moiraine herself and Aviendha isn't as strong as Egwene. Even if Egwene was at full potential we know for fact that Aviendha was not even close to hers and Moiraine still felt they were strong enough to overwhelm a Forsaken. Given that Moiraine has been exposed to Nynaeve and several of the male Forsaken at the very least we can say that 100% of Egwene plus 50% of Aviendha is overwhelmingly stronger than Nynaeve.
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Ch2 : Pevara & Androl and channeling implications Sidious - 24/10/2012 06:40:47 PM 3189 Views
Did Perva actually initiate the link or was it Androl? *NM* TheCrownless - 24/10/2012 07:02:15 PM 912 Views
Androl did. *NM* Great Lord of Chaos - 25/10/2012 05:10:31 AM 1103 Views
But didn't Nynaeve do it first at the cleansing? TheCrownless - 25/10/2012 12:43:15 PM 1416 Views
Pevara was thinking on very sketchy information. Great Lord of Chaos - 25/10/2012 08:56:20 PM 1541 Views
did he start the link? or just take it? nigelgoboom - 27/10/2012 07:33:49 AM 1062 Views
I think it's slightly off darius_sedai - 28/10/2012 04:21:05 PM 1329 Views
Re: Ch2 : Pevara & Androl and channeling implications Great Lord of Chaos - 25/10/2012 05:13:43 AM 1684 Views
Re: Ch2 : Pevara & Androl and channeling implications Sidious - 25/10/2012 04:23:20 PM 1361 Views
Re: Ch2 : Pevara & Androl and channeling implications DomA - 25/10/2012 09:52:03 PM 1418 Views
Travelling Tor - 25/10/2012 08:56:41 AM 1398 Views
Yes that's a pet theory of mine Sidious - 25/10/2012 04:21:53 PM 1412 Views
Re: Yes that's a pet theory of mine Tor - 25/10/2012 06:12:21 PM 1376 Views
Re: Yes that's a pet theory of mine DomA - 25/10/2012 08:50:15 PM 1257 Views
Re: Yes that's a pet theory of mine Tor - 25/10/2012 09:45:26 PM 1425 Views
Weren't there 150 or so at Maradon? *NM* Voscaia Sedai - 26/10/2012 03:29:53 PM 821 Views
Re: Yes that's a pet theory of mine DomA - 26/10/2012 08:49:58 PM 1482 Views
Perhaps, but if no on in the AoL could do it when mixed circles were common darius_sedai - 28/10/2012 04:22:20 PM 1219 Views
How strong Pevara is... fionwe1987 - 25/10/2012 07:08:26 PM 1585 Views
I'm pretty sure Moiraine is closer to 30... DREWRULESWOT! - 25/10/2012 07:41:37 PM 1183 Views
Agreed Sidious - 25/10/2012 08:37:24 PM 1325 Views
So... the old story of ignore the bell curve, eh? fionwe1987 - 26/10/2012 01:40:49 AM 1286 Views
No, I fully respect the bell curve Sidious - 26/10/2012 01:51:34 PM 1310 Views
That was disproved long ago... fionwe1987 - 26/10/2012 01:36:24 AM 1374 Views
But Moiraine isn't 'exceptionally strong' DREWRULESWOT! - 26/10/2012 05:16:10 AM 1330 Views
Not particularly strong evidence for that last. Great Lord of Chaos - 26/10/2012 05:36:54 AM 1396 Views
But we know that it takes significantly more strength to maintain multiple weaves DREWRULESWOT! - 26/10/2012 08:14:58 AM 1315 Views
Not true darius_sedai - 27/10/2012 09:15:51 PM 1286 Views
Not accurate darius_sedai - 27/10/2012 09:31:05 PM 1206 Views
The Bell Curve explained... Shannow - 26/10/2012 10:27:34 AM 1262 Views
Re: The Bell Curve explained... Tor - 26/10/2012 11:40:04 AM 1257 Views
Re: The Bell Curve explained... Shannow - 26/10/2012 12:32:01 PM 1177 Views
Re: The Bell Curve explained... Tor - 26/10/2012 12:48:51 PM 1309 Views
Re: The Bell Curve explained... Shannow - 26/10/2012 01:07:39 PM 1276 Views
Re: The Bell Curve explained... Tor - 26/10/2012 01:18:32 PM 1466 Views
Re: The Bell Curve explained... Shannow - 26/10/2012 01:57:18 PM 1357 Views
Re: The Bell Curve explained... Tor - 28/10/2012 02:07:39 PM 1315 Views
Yet Sharina, Nynaeve etc exist, thus the BC is the same darius_sedai - 27/10/2012 09:39:58 PM 1541 Views
The curve is OBVIOUSLY the same... fionwe1987 - 28/10/2012 01:50:37 AM 1113 Views
Re: The curve is OBVIOUSLY the same... Tor - 28/10/2012 02:01:59 PM 1217 Views
You need to go read RJ's quotes: fionwe1987 - 28/10/2012 02:41:49 PM 1348 Views
Re: You need to go read RJ's quotes: Tor - 28/10/2012 05:39:12 PM 1132 Views
I need to come and save you from blatant fallacies being spouted by the loonies. Shannow - 28/10/2012 05:56:21 PM 1142 Views
Re: I need to come and save you from blatant fallacies being spouted by the loonies. Tor - 28/10/2012 07:44:02 PM 1240 Views
This is like watching a train-wreck. fionwe1987 - 29/10/2012 02:58:51 AM 1131 Views
Re: This is like watching a train-wreck. DomA - 29/10/2012 01:10:35 PM 1333 Views
So what's your conclusion? Shannow - 29/10/2012 02:14:33 PM 1112 Views
His conclusion is that RJ was right about the books he wrote... fionwe1987 - 29/10/2012 02:19:59 PM 1238 Views
Pretty much... DomA - 30/10/2012 12:57:41 AM 1311 Views
you do realize that is an impossible question to answer from the books right? darius_sedai - 29/10/2012 07:50:02 PM 1312 Views
Excellent points... fionwe1987 - 29/10/2012 02:16:39 PM 1100 Views
Re: Excellent points... Tor - 29/10/2012 02:47:30 PM 1325 Views
You seem confused. fionwe1987 - 29/10/2012 03:22:47 PM 1085 Views
Re: You seem confused. Tor - 29/10/2012 03:41:48 PM 1126 Views
I think the point is that the AS didn't go force every woman in the area darius_sedai - 29/10/2012 07:57:59 PM 1072 Views
Re: You seem confused. fionwe1987 - 29/10/2012 08:23:22 PM 1347 Views
Re: You seem confused. Tor - 29/10/2012 08:57:11 PM 1227 Views
He drew graphs! fionwe1987 - 30/10/2012 12:49:09 AM 1128 Views
Re: He drew graphs! Tor - 30/10/2012 07:43:54 AM 1336 Views
Re: He drew graphs! fionwe1987 - 30/10/2012 01:57:05 PM 1188 Views
Re: Excellent points... DomA - 30/10/2012 12:20:00 AM 1201 Views
Re: Excellent points... Tor - 30/10/2012 07:49:57 AM 1178 Views
Re: Excellent points... DomA - 30/10/2012 01:05:45 PM 1622 Views
Re: Excellent points... Tor - 30/10/2012 01:25:11 PM 1211 Views
Re: Excellent points... DomA - 30/10/2012 12:20:17 AM 1292 Views
AS recruiting is minimal darius_sedai - 28/10/2012 10:41:29 PM 1162 Views
Re: You need to go read RJ's quotes: fionwe1987 - 29/10/2012 02:23:27 AM 1158 Views
Re: You need to go read RJ's quotes: Tor - 29/10/2012 07:33:44 AM 1151 Views
Huh? fionwe1987 - 29/10/2012 02:26:27 PM 1245 Views
Re: Huh? Tor - 29/10/2012 02:42:07 PM 1106 Views
You don't seem to know what random means... fionwe1987 - 29/10/2012 03:25:57 PM 1150 Views
Re: You don't seem to know what random means... Tor - 29/10/2012 03:36:45 PM 1143 Views
Personally I just think that 1000 women being allowed to tag along is a drop darius_sedai - 29/10/2012 08:05:33 PM 1270 Views
Re: Personally I just think that 1000 women being allowed to tag along is a drop Tor - 29/10/2012 09:04:02 PM 1302 Views
Geography alone can do this darius_sedai - 30/10/2012 12:39:53 AM 1132 Views
Re: Geography alone can do this Tor - 30/10/2012 09:45:58 AM 1112 Views
Not really darius_sedai - 30/10/2012 02:49:05 PM 1109 Views
Here's why its not random... fionwe1987 - 30/10/2012 01:04:18 AM 1110 Views
Re: Here's why its not random... Tor - 30/10/2012 09:42:35 AM 1336 Views
Re: Here's why its not random... fionwe1987 - 30/10/2012 01:51:03 PM 1097 Views
Re: Here's why its not random... Tor - 30/10/2012 02:21:04 PM 1157 Views
YEah, there's no point debating this... fionwe1987 - 30/10/2012 02:46:39 PM 1168 Views
Genetics plays a role darius_sedai - 30/10/2012 03:03:41 PM 1345 Views
Re: You don't seem to know what random means... fionwe1987 - 29/10/2012 08:22:40 PM 1070 Views
Re: You don't seem to know what random means... Tor - 29/10/2012 09:06:08 PM 1187 Views
Why must there be a mechanism? fionwe1987 - 30/10/2012 01:06:29 AM 1140 Views
Re: Why must there be a mechanism? Tor - 30/10/2012 09:48:16 AM 1140 Views
Nope... fionwe1987 - 30/10/2012 01:43:56 PM 1273 Views
Re: Nope... Tor - 30/10/2012 02:34:51 PM 1116 Views
Oh my... fionwe1987 - 30/10/2012 02:50:12 PM 1142 Views
Thought experment time! Hurrah! Tor - 30/10/2012 03:27:01 PM 1114 Views
But it is still possible in your example to get wildly varied results darius_sedai - 30/10/2012 03:30:59 PM 1061 Views
Re: But it is still possible in your example to get wildly varied results Tor - 30/10/2012 03:36:03 PM 1137 Views
LOL darius_sedai - 30/10/2012 04:49:06 PM 1774 Views
Re: Yet Sharina, Nynaeve etc exist, thus the BC is the same Tor - 28/10/2012 01:39:55 PM 1196 Views
The point is there are still people being born in the highest strength categories darius_sedai - 28/10/2012 04:18:55 PM 1223 Views
Re: The point is there are still people being born in the highest strength categories Tor - 28/10/2012 05:21:44 PM 1130 Views
The curve hasn't shifted! fionwe1987 - 28/10/2012 05:39:42 PM 1320 Views
The fact is, Moiraine is not half as strong as Lanfear, hence she is below average strength. Shannow - 28/10/2012 06:02:04 PM 1167 Views
Re: The fact is, Moiraine is not half as strong as Lanfear, hence she is below average strength. Tor - 28/10/2012 07:27:26 PM 1172 Views
There is not a single quote in the series that states Moiraine is less than half the strength darius_sedai - 28/10/2012 10:31:28 PM 1224 Views
How is this fact? fionwe1987 - 29/10/2012 02:59:49 AM 1281 Views
Re: How is this fact? Sidious - 29/10/2012 07:04:15 PM 1163 Views
Not so darius_sedai - 29/10/2012 08:09:29 PM 1121 Views
Re: Not so Sidious - 29/10/2012 08:43:16 PM 1282 Views
Sure it is darius_sedai - 30/10/2012 01:43:39 AM 1238 Views
Explain Elza-Merise-Cadsuane then... fionwe1987 - 29/10/2012 08:20:14 PM 1134 Views
Re: Explain Elza-Merise-Cadsuane then... Sidious - 29/10/2012 08:38:11 PM 1237 Views
Are you blind man? fionwe1987 - 30/10/2012 01:12:26 AM 1159 Views
Re: Are you blind man? Sidious - 30/10/2012 09:23:37 AM 1180 Views
Cadsuane is just below Egwene... fionwe1987 - 30/10/2012 01:37:54 PM 1115 Views
Your strength scores don't square with the Pevara quote darius_sedai - 30/10/2012 03:15:22 PM 1128 Views
Re: The curve hasn't shifted! Tor - 28/10/2012 07:36:36 PM 1140 Views
Well the most obvious thing is that RJ was quoted on the subject any number of times darius_sedai - 28/10/2012 11:34:18 PM 1261 Views
On Raw strength scores I think you are pretty inline with my thinking darius_sedai - 27/10/2012 09:37:25 PM 1282 Views
And the facing a Foresaken comment is out of context anyway... fionwe1987 - 28/10/2012 01:56:12 AM 1315 Views
Excellent point on raw v. Effective strength *NM* darius_sedai - 28/10/2012 04:13:21 PM 815 Views
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