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Re: Not so Sidious Send a noteboard - 29/10/2012 08:43:16 PM

Hence, all modern Aes Sedai fall below the mean of the Bell Curve.

Where did we learn Moiraine wasn't half as strong as Lanfear? Enlighten me to this quote.


Its where Aviendha tells Egwene that she's stronger than Amys and Melaine combined. And considering Amys is as strong as Moiraine and Lanfear is vastly more powerful than Egwene, its confirmatory evidence. Aviendha's direct quote is one of those useful pieces of information that you and Darius throw out because it doesn't fulfil your unlikely theories.


Moiraine herself tells us that Egwene and Aviendha, who are not at full potential, could overwhelm a female Forsaken. At the time Egwene isn't much stronger than Moiraine herself and Aviendha isn't as strong as Egwene. Even if Egwene was at full potential we know for fact that Aviendha was not even close to hers and Moiraine still felt they were strong enough to overwhelm a Forsaken. Given that Moiraine has been exposed to Nynaeve and several of the male Forsaken at the very least we can say that 100% of Egwene plus 50% of Aviendha is overwhelmingly stronger than Nynaeve.


Egwene was much stronger than Moiraine! Egwene was stronger than Moiraine in TSR and this comment was made at the end of TfoH. I agree that Egwene/aviendha together are more powerful than Nynaeve... That's not even being debated.
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Ch2 : Pevara & Androl and channeling implications Sidious - 24/10/2012 06:40:47 PM 2694 Views
Did Perva actually initiate the link or was it Androl? *NM* TheCrownless - 24/10/2012 07:02:15 PM 656 Views
Androl did. *NM* Great Lord of Chaos - 25/10/2012 05:10:31 AM 906 Views
But didn't Nynaeve do it first at the cleansing? TheCrownless - 25/10/2012 12:43:15 PM 1016 Views
Pevara was thinking on very sketchy information. Great Lord of Chaos - 25/10/2012 08:56:20 PM 957 Views
did he start the link? or just take it? nigelgoboom - 27/10/2012 07:33:49 AM 687 Views
I think it's slightly off darius_sedai - 28/10/2012 04:21:05 PM 985 Views
Re: Ch2 : Pevara & Androl and channeling implications Great Lord of Chaos - 25/10/2012 05:13:43 AM 1183 Views
Re: Ch2 : Pevara & Androl and channeling implications Sidious - 25/10/2012 04:23:20 PM 1022 Views
Re: Ch2 : Pevara & Androl and channeling implications DomA - 25/10/2012 09:52:03 PM 1071 Views
Travelling Tor - 25/10/2012 08:56:41 AM 1044 Views
Yes that's a pet theory of mine Sidious - 25/10/2012 04:21:53 PM 1041 Views
Re: Yes that's a pet theory of mine Tor - 25/10/2012 06:12:21 PM 958 Views
Re: Yes that's a pet theory of mine DomA - 25/10/2012 08:50:15 PM 907 Views
Re: Yes that's a pet theory of mine Tor - 25/10/2012 09:45:26 PM 996 Views
Weren't there 150 or so at Maradon? *NM* Voscaia Sedai - 26/10/2012 03:29:53 PM 579 Views
Re: Yes that's a pet theory of mine DomA - 26/10/2012 08:49:58 PM 1094 Views
Perhaps, but if no on in the AoL could do it when mixed circles were common darius_sedai - 28/10/2012 04:22:20 PM 803 Views
How strong Pevara is... fionwe1987 - 25/10/2012 07:08:26 PM 1114 Views
I'm pretty sure Moiraine is closer to 30... DREWRULESWOT! - 25/10/2012 07:41:37 PM 864 Views
Agreed Sidious - 25/10/2012 08:37:24 PM 946 Views
So... the old story of ignore the bell curve, eh? fionwe1987 - 26/10/2012 01:40:49 AM 896 Views
No, I fully respect the bell curve Sidious - 26/10/2012 01:51:34 PM 947 Views
That was disproved long ago... fionwe1987 - 26/10/2012 01:36:24 AM 903 Views
But Moiraine isn't 'exceptionally strong' DREWRULESWOT! - 26/10/2012 05:16:10 AM 956 Views
Not particularly strong evidence for that last. Great Lord of Chaos - 26/10/2012 05:36:54 AM 903 Views
But we know that it takes significantly more strength to maintain multiple weaves DREWRULESWOT! - 26/10/2012 08:14:58 AM 833 Views
Not true darius_sedai - 27/10/2012 09:15:51 PM 832 Views
Not accurate darius_sedai - 27/10/2012 09:31:05 PM 847 Views
The Bell Curve explained... Shannow - 26/10/2012 10:27:34 AM 899 Views
Re: The Bell Curve explained... Tor - 26/10/2012 11:40:04 AM 899 Views
Re: The Bell Curve explained... Shannow - 26/10/2012 12:32:01 PM 794 Views
Re: The Bell Curve explained... Tor - 26/10/2012 12:48:51 PM 913 Views
Re: The Bell Curve explained... Shannow - 26/10/2012 01:07:39 PM 882 Views
Re: The Bell Curve explained... Tor - 26/10/2012 01:18:32 PM 937 Views
Re: The Bell Curve explained... Shannow - 26/10/2012 01:57:18 PM 992 Views
Re: The Bell Curve explained... Tor - 28/10/2012 02:07:39 PM 693 Views
Yet Sharina, Nynaeve etc exist, thus the BC is the same darius_sedai - 27/10/2012 09:39:58 PM 931 Views
The curve is OBVIOUSLY the same... fionwe1987 - 28/10/2012 01:50:37 AM 829 Views
Re: The curve is OBVIOUSLY the same... Tor - 28/10/2012 02:01:59 PM 867 Views
You need to go read RJ's quotes: fionwe1987 - 28/10/2012 02:41:49 PM 871 Views
Re: You need to go read RJ's quotes: Tor - 28/10/2012 05:39:12 PM 789 Views
I need to come and save you from blatant fallacies being spouted by the loonies. Shannow - 28/10/2012 05:56:21 PM 770 Views
Re: I need to come and save you from blatant fallacies being spouted by the loonies. Tor - 28/10/2012 07:44:02 PM 760 Views
This is like watching a train-wreck. fionwe1987 - 29/10/2012 02:58:51 AM 767 Views
Re: This is like watching a train-wreck. DomA - 29/10/2012 01:10:35 PM 950 Views
So what's your conclusion? Shannow - 29/10/2012 02:14:33 PM 721 Views
His conclusion is that RJ was right about the books he wrote... fionwe1987 - 29/10/2012 02:19:59 PM 863 Views
Pretty much... DomA - 30/10/2012 12:57:41 AM 955 Views
you do realize that is an impossible question to answer from the books right? darius_sedai - 29/10/2012 07:50:02 PM 831 Views
Excellent points... fionwe1987 - 29/10/2012 02:16:39 PM 727 Views
Re: Excellent points... Tor - 29/10/2012 02:47:30 PM 831 Views
You seem confused. fionwe1987 - 29/10/2012 03:22:47 PM 750 Views
Re: You seem confused. Tor - 29/10/2012 03:41:48 PM 766 Views
I think the point is that the AS didn't go force every woman in the area darius_sedai - 29/10/2012 07:57:59 PM 746 Views
Re: You seem confused. fionwe1987 - 29/10/2012 08:23:22 PM 869 Views
Re: You seem confused. Tor - 29/10/2012 08:57:11 PM 862 Views
He drew graphs! fionwe1987 - 30/10/2012 12:49:09 AM 761 Views
Re: He drew graphs! Tor - 30/10/2012 07:43:54 AM 811 Views
Re: He drew graphs! fionwe1987 - 30/10/2012 01:57:05 PM 787 Views
Re: Excellent points... DomA - 30/10/2012 12:20:00 AM 792 Views
Re: Excellent points... Tor - 30/10/2012 07:49:57 AM 820 Views
Re: Excellent points... DomA - 30/10/2012 01:05:45 PM 1164 Views
Re: Excellent points... Tor - 30/10/2012 01:25:11 PM 834 Views
Re: Excellent points... DomA - 30/10/2012 12:20:17 AM 903 Views
AS recruiting is minimal darius_sedai - 28/10/2012 10:41:29 PM 827 Views
Re: You need to go read RJ's quotes: fionwe1987 - 29/10/2012 02:23:27 AM 804 Views
Re: You need to go read RJ's quotes: Tor - 29/10/2012 07:33:44 AM 772 Views
Huh? fionwe1987 - 29/10/2012 02:26:27 PM 771 Views
Re: Huh? Tor - 29/10/2012 02:42:07 PM 785 Views
You don't seem to know what random means... fionwe1987 - 29/10/2012 03:25:57 PM 785 Views
Re: You don't seem to know what random means... Tor - 29/10/2012 03:36:45 PM 819 Views
Personally I just think that 1000 women being allowed to tag along is a drop darius_sedai - 29/10/2012 08:05:33 PM 822 Views
Re: Personally I just think that 1000 women being allowed to tag along is a drop Tor - 29/10/2012 09:04:02 PM 842 Views
Geography alone can do this darius_sedai - 30/10/2012 12:39:53 AM 792 Views
Re: Geography alone can do this Tor - 30/10/2012 09:45:58 AM 782 Views
Not really darius_sedai - 30/10/2012 02:49:05 PM 740 Views
Here's why its not random... fionwe1987 - 30/10/2012 01:04:18 AM 744 Views
Re: Here's why its not random... Tor - 30/10/2012 09:42:35 AM 882 Views
Re: Here's why its not random... fionwe1987 - 30/10/2012 01:51:03 PM 750 Views
Re: Here's why its not random... Tor - 30/10/2012 02:21:04 PM 809 Views
YEah, there's no point debating this... fionwe1987 - 30/10/2012 02:46:39 PM 765 Views
Genetics plays a role darius_sedai - 30/10/2012 03:03:41 PM 894 Views
Re: You don't seem to know what random means... fionwe1987 - 29/10/2012 08:22:40 PM 748 Views
Re: You don't seem to know what random means... Tor - 29/10/2012 09:06:08 PM 785 Views
Why must there be a mechanism? fionwe1987 - 30/10/2012 01:06:29 AM 749 Views
Re: Why must there be a mechanism? Tor - 30/10/2012 09:48:16 AM 700 Views
Nope... fionwe1987 - 30/10/2012 01:43:56 PM 894 Views
Re: Nope... Tor - 30/10/2012 02:34:51 PM 743 Views
Oh my... fionwe1987 - 30/10/2012 02:50:12 PM 838 Views
Thought experment time! Hurrah! Tor - 30/10/2012 03:27:01 PM 755 Views
But it is still possible in your example to get wildly varied results darius_sedai - 30/10/2012 03:30:59 PM 703 Views
Re: But it is still possible in your example to get wildly varied results Tor - 30/10/2012 03:36:03 PM 791 Views
LOL darius_sedai - 30/10/2012 04:49:06 PM 1321 Views
Re: Yet Sharina, Nynaeve etc exist, thus the BC is the same Tor - 28/10/2012 01:39:55 PM 768 Views
The point is there are still people being born in the highest strength categories darius_sedai - 28/10/2012 04:18:55 PM 798 Views
Re: The point is there are still people being born in the highest strength categories Tor - 28/10/2012 05:21:44 PM 782 Views
The curve hasn't shifted! fionwe1987 - 28/10/2012 05:39:42 PM 850 Views
The fact is, Moiraine is not half as strong as Lanfear, hence she is below average strength. Shannow - 28/10/2012 06:02:04 PM 793 Views
Re: The fact is, Moiraine is not half as strong as Lanfear, hence she is below average strength. Tor - 28/10/2012 07:27:26 PM 708 Views
There is not a single quote in the series that states Moiraine is less than half the strength darius_sedai - 28/10/2012 10:31:28 PM 763 Views
How is this fact? fionwe1987 - 29/10/2012 02:59:49 AM 823 Views
Re: How is this fact? Sidious - 29/10/2012 07:04:15 PM 797 Views
Not so darius_sedai - 29/10/2012 08:09:29 PM 759 Views
Re: Not so Sidious - 29/10/2012 08:43:16 PM 849 Views
Sure it is darius_sedai - 30/10/2012 01:43:39 AM 725 Views
Explain Elza-Merise-Cadsuane then... fionwe1987 - 29/10/2012 08:20:14 PM 760 Views
Re: Explain Elza-Merise-Cadsuane then... Sidious - 29/10/2012 08:38:11 PM 786 Views
Are you blind man? fionwe1987 - 30/10/2012 01:12:26 AM 804 Views
Re: Are you blind man? Sidious - 30/10/2012 09:23:37 AM 831 Views
Cadsuane is just below Egwene... fionwe1987 - 30/10/2012 01:37:54 PM 780 Views
Your strength scores don't square with the Pevara quote darius_sedai - 30/10/2012 03:15:22 PM 773 Views
Re: The curve hasn't shifted! Tor - 28/10/2012 07:36:36 PM 775 Views
Well the most obvious thing is that RJ was quoted on the subject any number of times darius_sedai - 28/10/2012 11:34:18 PM 808 Views
On Raw strength scores I think you are pretty inline with my thinking darius_sedai - 27/10/2012 09:37:25 PM 921 Views
And the facing a Foresaken comment is out of context anyway... fionwe1987 - 28/10/2012 01:56:12 AM 907 Views
Excellent point on raw v. Effective strength *NM* darius_sedai - 28/10/2012 04:13:21 PM 571 Views
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