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Re: Not so Sidious Send a noteboard - 29/10/2012 08:43:16 PM

Hence, all modern Aes Sedai fall below the mean of the Bell Curve.

Where did we learn Moiraine wasn't half as strong as Lanfear? Enlighten me to this quote.


Its where Aviendha tells Egwene that she's stronger than Amys and Melaine combined. And considering Amys is as strong as Moiraine and Lanfear is vastly more powerful than Egwene, its confirmatory evidence. Aviendha's direct quote is one of those useful pieces of information that you and Darius throw out because it doesn't fulfil your unlikely theories.


Moiraine herself tells us that Egwene and Aviendha, who are not at full potential, could overwhelm a female Forsaken. At the time Egwene isn't much stronger than Moiraine herself and Aviendha isn't as strong as Egwene. Even if Egwene was at full potential we know for fact that Aviendha was not even close to hers and Moiraine still felt they were strong enough to overwhelm a Forsaken. Given that Moiraine has been exposed to Nynaeve and several of the male Forsaken at the very least we can say that 100% of Egwene plus 50% of Aviendha is overwhelmingly stronger than Nynaeve.


Egwene was much stronger than Moiraine! Egwene was stronger than Moiraine in TSR and this comment was made at the end of TfoH. I agree that Egwene/aviendha together are more powerful than Nynaeve... That's not even being debated.
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Ch2 : Pevara & Androl and channeling implications Sidious - 24/10/2012 06:40:47 PM 2895 Views
Did Perva actually initiate the link or was it Androl? *NM* TheCrownless - 24/10/2012 07:02:15 PM 742 Views
Androl did. *NM* Great Lord of Chaos - 25/10/2012 05:10:31 AM 999 Views
But didn't Nynaeve do it first at the cleansing? TheCrownless - 25/10/2012 12:43:15 PM 1237 Views
Pevara was thinking on very sketchy information. Great Lord of Chaos - 25/10/2012 08:56:20 PM 1173 Views
did he start the link? or just take it? nigelgoboom - 27/10/2012 07:33:49 AM 876 Views
I think it's slightly off darius_sedai - 28/10/2012 04:21:05 PM 1147 Views
Re: Ch2 : Pevara & Androl and channeling implications Great Lord of Chaos - 25/10/2012 05:13:43 AM 1385 Views
Re: Ch2 : Pevara & Androl and channeling implications Sidious - 25/10/2012 04:23:20 PM 1194 Views
Re: Ch2 : Pevara & Androl and channeling implications DomA - 25/10/2012 09:52:03 PM 1238 Views
Travelling Tor - 25/10/2012 08:56:41 AM 1234 Views
Yes that's a pet theory of mine Sidious - 25/10/2012 04:21:53 PM 1253 Views
Re: Yes that's a pet theory of mine Tor - 25/10/2012 06:12:21 PM 1148 Views
Re: Yes that's a pet theory of mine DomA - 25/10/2012 08:50:15 PM 1089 Views
Re: Yes that's a pet theory of mine Tor - 25/10/2012 09:45:26 PM 1174 Views
Weren't there 150 or so at Maradon? *NM* Voscaia Sedai - 26/10/2012 03:29:53 PM 654 Views
Re: Yes that's a pet theory of mine DomA - 26/10/2012 08:49:58 PM 1286 Views
Perhaps, but if no on in the AoL could do it when mixed circles were common darius_sedai - 28/10/2012 04:22:20 PM 967 Views
How strong Pevara is... fionwe1987 - 25/10/2012 07:08:26 PM 1316 Views
I'm pretty sure Moiraine is closer to 30... DREWRULESWOT! - 25/10/2012 07:41:37 PM 1032 Views
Agreed Sidious - 25/10/2012 08:37:24 PM 1121 Views
So... the old story of ignore the bell curve, eh? fionwe1987 - 26/10/2012 01:40:49 AM 1090 Views
No, I fully respect the bell curve Sidious - 26/10/2012 01:51:34 PM 1141 Views
That was disproved long ago... fionwe1987 - 26/10/2012 01:36:24 AM 1107 Views
But Moiraine isn't 'exceptionally strong' DREWRULESWOT! - 26/10/2012 05:16:10 AM 1151 Views
Not particularly strong evidence for that last. Great Lord of Chaos - 26/10/2012 05:36:54 AM 1102 Views
But we know that it takes significantly more strength to maintain multiple weaves DREWRULESWOT! - 26/10/2012 08:14:58 AM 1016 Views
Not true darius_sedai - 27/10/2012 09:15:51 PM 1026 Views
Not accurate darius_sedai - 27/10/2012 09:31:05 PM 1015 Views
The Bell Curve explained... Shannow - 26/10/2012 10:27:34 AM 1071 Views
Re: The Bell Curve explained... Tor - 26/10/2012 11:40:04 AM 1071 Views
Re: The Bell Curve explained... Shannow - 26/10/2012 12:32:01 PM 995 Views
Re: The Bell Curve explained... Tor - 26/10/2012 12:48:51 PM 1103 Views
Re: The Bell Curve explained... Shannow - 26/10/2012 01:07:39 PM 1086 Views
Re: The Bell Curve explained... Tor - 26/10/2012 01:18:32 PM 1109 Views
Re: The Bell Curve explained... Shannow - 26/10/2012 01:57:18 PM 1154 Views
Re: The Bell Curve explained... Tor - 28/10/2012 02:07:39 PM 839 Views
Yet Sharina, Nynaeve etc exist, thus the BC is the same darius_sedai - 27/10/2012 09:39:58 PM 1190 Views
The curve is OBVIOUSLY the same... fionwe1987 - 28/10/2012 01:50:37 AM 954 Views
Re: The curve is OBVIOUSLY the same... Tor - 28/10/2012 02:01:59 PM 1043 Views
You need to go read RJ's quotes: fionwe1987 - 28/10/2012 02:41:49 PM 1058 Views
Re: You need to go read RJ's quotes: Tor - 28/10/2012 05:39:12 PM 965 Views
I need to come and save you from blatant fallacies being spouted by the loonies. Shannow - 28/10/2012 05:56:21 PM 976 Views
Re: I need to come and save you from blatant fallacies being spouted by the loonies. Tor - 28/10/2012 07:44:02 PM 982 Views
This is like watching a train-wreck. fionwe1987 - 29/10/2012 02:58:51 AM 934 Views
Re: This is like watching a train-wreck. DomA - 29/10/2012 01:10:35 PM 1152 Views
So what's your conclusion? Shannow - 29/10/2012 02:14:33 PM 932 Views
His conclusion is that RJ was right about the books he wrote... fionwe1987 - 29/10/2012 02:19:59 PM 1057 Views
Pretty much... DomA - 30/10/2012 12:57:41 AM 1147 Views
you do realize that is an impossible question to answer from the books right? darius_sedai - 29/10/2012 07:50:02 PM 1041 Views
Excellent points... fionwe1987 - 29/10/2012 02:16:39 PM 915 Views
Re: Excellent points... Tor - 29/10/2012 02:47:30 PM 1040 Views
You seem confused. fionwe1987 - 29/10/2012 03:22:47 PM 916 Views
Re: You seem confused. Tor - 29/10/2012 03:41:48 PM 968 Views
I think the point is that the AS didn't go force every woman in the area darius_sedai - 29/10/2012 07:57:59 PM 911 Views
Re: You seem confused. fionwe1987 - 29/10/2012 08:23:22 PM 1063 Views
Re: You seem confused. Tor - 29/10/2012 08:57:11 PM 1058 Views
He drew graphs! fionwe1987 - 30/10/2012 12:49:09 AM 940 Views
Re: He drew graphs! Tor - 30/10/2012 07:43:54 AM 998 Views
Re: He drew graphs! fionwe1987 - 30/10/2012 01:57:05 PM 961 Views
Re: Excellent points... DomA - 30/10/2012 12:20:00 AM 991 Views
Re: Excellent points... Tor - 30/10/2012 07:49:57 AM 1002 Views
Re: Excellent points... DomA - 30/10/2012 01:05:45 PM 1339 Views
Re: Excellent points... Tor - 30/10/2012 01:25:11 PM 1020 Views
Re: Excellent points... DomA - 30/10/2012 12:20:17 AM 1093 Views
AS recruiting is minimal darius_sedai - 28/10/2012 10:41:29 PM 969 Views
Re: You need to go read RJ's quotes: fionwe1987 - 29/10/2012 02:23:27 AM 969 Views
Re: You need to go read RJ's quotes: Tor - 29/10/2012 07:33:44 AM 968 Views
Huh? fionwe1987 - 29/10/2012 02:26:27 PM 977 Views
Re: Huh? Tor - 29/10/2012 02:42:07 PM 943 Views
You don't seem to know what random means... fionwe1987 - 29/10/2012 03:25:57 PM 955 Views
Re: You don't seem to know what random means... Tor - 29/10/2012 03:36:45 PM 985 Views
Personally I just think that 1000 women being allowed to tag along is a drop darius_sedai - 29/10/2012 08:05:33 PM 1006 Views
Re: Personally I just think that 1000 women being allowed to tag along is a drop Tor - 29/10/2012 09:04:02 PM 1024 Views
Geography alone can do this darius_sedai - 30/10/2012 12:39:53 AM 961 Views
Re: Geography alone can do this Tor - 30/10/2012 09:45:58 AM 947 Views
Not really darius_sedai - 30/10/2012 02:49:05 PM 937 Views
Here's why its not random... fionwe1987 - 30/10/2012 01:04:18 AM 933 Views
Re: Here's why its not random... Tor - 30/10/2012 09:42:35 AM 1075 Views
Re: Here's why its not random... fionwe1987 - 30/10/2012 01:51:03 PM 931 Views
Re: Here's why its not random... Tor - 30/10/2012 02:21:04 PM 974 Views
YEah, there's no point debating this... fionwe1987 - 30/10/2012 02:46:39 PM 939 Views
Genetics plays a role darius_sedai - 30/10/2012 03:03:41 PM 1084 Views
Re: You don't seem to know what random means... fionwe1987 - 29/10/2012 08:22:40 PM 921 Views
Re: You don't seem to know what random means... Tor - 29/10/2012 09:06:08 PM 966 Views
Why must there be a mechanism? fionwe1987 - 30/10/2012 01:06:29 AM 946 Views
Re: Why must there be a mechanism? Tor - 30/10/2012 09:48:16 AM 867 Views
Nope... fionwe1987 - 30/10/2012 01:43:56 PM 1078 Views
Re: Nope... Tor - 30/10/2012 02:34:51 PM 927 Views
Oh my... fionwe1987 - 30/10/2012 02:50:12 PM 992 Views
Thought experment time! Hurrah! Tor - 30/10/2012 03:27:01 PM 942 Views
But it is still possible in your example to get wildly varied results darius_sedai - 30/10/2012 03:30:59 PM 889 Views
Re: But it is still possible in your example to get wildly varied results Tor - 30/10/2012 03:36:03 PM 975 Views
LOL darius_sedai - 30/10/2012 04:49:06 PM 1508 Views
Re: Yet Sharina, Nynaeve etc exist, thus the BC is the same Tor - 28/10/2012 01:39:55 PM 936 Views
The point is there are still people being born in the highest strength categories darius_sedai - 28/10/2012 04:18:55 PM 986 Views
Re: The point is there are still people being born in the highest strength categories Tor - 28/10/2012 05:21:44 PM 972 Views
The curve hasn't shifted! fionwe1987 - 28/10/2012 05:39:42 PM 1054 Views
The fact is, Moiraine is not half as strong as Lanfear, hence she is below average strength. Shannow - 28/10/2012 06:02:04 PM 1012 Views
Re: The fact is, Moiraine is not half as strong as Lanfear, hence she is below average strength. Tor - 28/10/2012 07:27:26 PM 906 Views
There is not a single quote in the series that states Moiraine is less than half the strength darius_sedai - 28/10/2012 10:31:28 PM 961 Views
How is this fact? fionwe1987 - 29/10/2012 02:59:49 AM 1010 Views
Re: How is this fact? Sidious - 29/10/2012 07:04:15 PM 987 Views
Not so darius_sedai - 29/10/2012 08:09:29 PM 953 Views
Re: Not so Sidious - 29/10/2012 08:43:16 PM 1027 Views
Sure it is darius_sedai - 30/10/2012 01:43:39 AM 922 Views
Explain Elza-Merise-Cadsuane then... fionwe1987 - 29/10/2012 08:20:14 PM 952 Views
Re: Explain Elza-Merise-Cadsuane then... Sidious - 29/10/2012 08:38:11 PM 985 Views
Are you blind man? fionwe1987 - 30/10/2012 01:12:26 AM 986 Views
Re: Are you blind man? Sidious - 30/10/2012 09:23:37 AM 1023 Views
Cadsuane is just below Egwene... fionwe1987 - 30/10/2012 01:37:54 PM 953 Views
Your strength scores don't square with the Pevara quote darius_sedai - 30/10/2012 03:15:22 PM 958 Views
Re: The curve hasn't shifted! Tor - 28/10/2012 07:36:36 PM 984 Views
Well the most obvious thing is that RJ was quoted on the subject any number of times darius_sedai - 28/10/2012 11:34:18 PM 990 Views
On Raw strength scores I think you are pretty inline with my thinking darius_sedai - 27/10/2012 09:37:25 PM 1120 Views
And the facing a Foresaken comment is out of context anyway... fionwe1987 - 28/10/2012 01:56:12 AM 1075 Views
Excellent point on raw v. Effective strength *NM* darius_sedai - 28/10/2012 04:13:21 PM 651 Views
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