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Re: Personally I just think that 1000 women being allowed to tag along is a drop Tor Send a noteboard - 29/10/2012 09:04:02 PM
in the bucket. We know that about 1% of the population has the ability. Which could mean something like 500,000 women have the ability which means 312,500 could be AS and 187,500 are too weak. Picking up a random 1000 women from a specific region who came without active recruitment isn't a representative sample of female channelers. For all we know Northern Altaran women are generally weak in the power.


There is no reason to assume that the 1000 novices are not a random sample. If you were sampling something like income or political opinion or longevity, it would make sense to look at it more carefully, as where you live can be correlated with these things. However, I don't see any plausible way that channeling strength among people who don't yet know they can channel could in any way be correlated with things like where you live or whether you would like to become Aes Sedai.

And with the potential channeling population being that large, it is perfectly reasonable to assume that each of the novices has a 62.5% chance of being strong enough to become Aes Sedai. And if this is the case, it is flat out impossible that only 200 out of 1000 are strong enough.

And what do you mean by Northern Altaran women being generally weak in the power? Didn't you just yesterday say that strength in channeling isn't genetic, and that it is unreasonable that genetics could cause a general drop in channeling strength since the Age of Legends?
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Ch2 : Pevara & Androl and channeling implications - 24/10/2012 06:40:47 PM 3283 Views
Did Perva actually initiate the link or was it Androl? *NM* - 24/10/2012 07:02:15 PM 967 Views
Androl did. *NM* - 25/10/2012 05:10:31 AM 1170 Views
But didn't Nynaeve do it first at the cleansing? - 25/10/2012 12:43:15 PM 1466 Views
Pevara was thinking on very sketchy information. - 25/10/2012 08:56:20 PM 1667 Views
did he start the link? or just take it? - 27/10/2012 07:33:49 AM 1112 Views
I think it's slightly off - 28/10/2012 04:21:05 PM 1409 Views
Re: Ch2 : Pevara & Androl and channeling implications - 25/10/2012 05:13:43 AM 1768 Views
Re: Ch2 : Pevara & Androl and channeling implications - 25/10/2012 04:23:20 PM 1413 Views
Re: Ch2 : Pevara & Androl and channeling implications - 25/10/2012 09:52:03 PM 1497 Views
Travelling - 25/10/2012 08:56:41 AM 1440 Views
Yes that's a pet theory of mine - 25/10/2012 04:21:53 PM 1453 Views
Re: Yes that's a pet theory of mine - 25/10/2012 06:12:21 PM 1428 Views
Re: Yes that's a pet theory of mine - 25/10/2012 08:50:15 PM 1318 Views
Re: Yes that's a pet theory of mine - 25/10/2012 09:45:26 PM 1484 Views
Weren't there 150 or so at Maradon? *NM* - 26/10/2012 03:29:53 PM 880 Views
Re: Yes that's a pet theory of mine - 26/10/2012 08:49:58 PM 1538 Views
Perhaps, but if no on in the AoL could do it when mixed circles were common - 28/10/2012 04:22:20 PM 1298 Views
How strong Pevara is... - 25/10/2012 07:08:26 PM 1660 Views
I'm pretty sure Moiraine is closer to 30... - 25/10/2012 07:41:37 PM 1227 Views
Agreed - 25/10/2012 08:37:24 PM 1388 Views
So... the old story of ignore the bell curve, eh? - 26/10/2012 01:40:49 AM 1351 Views
No, I fully respect the bell curve - 26/10/2012 01:51:34 PM 1364 Views
That was disproved long ago... - 26/10/2012 01:36:24 AM 1460 Views
But Moiraine isn't 'exceptionally strong' - 26/10/2012 05:16:10 AM 1388 Views
Not particularly strong evidence for that last. - 26/10/2012 05:36:54 AM 1480 Views
But we know that it takes significantly more strength to maintain multiple weaves - 26/10/2012 08:14:58 AM 1386 Views
Not true - 27/10/2012 09:15:51 PM 1367 Views
Not accurate - 27/10/2012 09:31:05 PM 1270 Views
The Bell Curve explained... - 26/10/2012 10:27:34 AM 1320 Views
Re: The Bell Curve explained... - 26/10/2012 11:40:04 AM 1303 Views
Re: The Bell Curve explained... - 26/10/2012 12:32:01 PM 1230 Views
Re: The Bell Curve explained... - 26/10/2012 12:48:51 PM 1367 Views
Re: The Bell Curve explained... - 26/10/2012 01:07:39 PM 1330 Views
Re: The Bell Curve explained... - 26/10/2012 01:18:32 PM 1574 Views
Re: The Bell Curve explained... - 26/10/2012 01:57:18 PM 1420 Views
Re: The Bell Curve explained... - 28/10/2012 02:07:39 PM 1451 Views
Yet Sharina, Nynaeve etc exist, thus the BC is the same - 27/10/2012 09:39:58 PM 1649 Views
The curve is OBVIOUSLY the same... - 28/10/2012 01:50:37 AM 1161 Views
Re: The curve is OBVIOUSLY the same... - 28/10/2012 02:01:59 PM 1272 Views
You need to go read RJ's quotes: - 28/10/2012 02:41:49 PM 1440 Views
Re: You need to go read RJ's quotes: - 28/10/2012 05:39:12 PM 1186 Views
I need to come and save you from blatant fallacies being spouted by the loonies. - 28/10/2012 05:56:21 PM 1200 Views
This is like watching a train-wreck. - 29/10/2012 02:58:51 AM 1189 Views
Re: This is like watching a train-wreck. - 29/10/2012 01:10:35 PM 1392 Views
So what's your conclusion? - 29/10/2012 02:14:33 PM 1162 Views
His conclusion is that RJ was right about the books he wrote... - 29/10/2012 02:19:59 PM 1295 Views
Pretty much... - 30/10/2012 12:57:41 AM 1365 Views
Excellent points... - 29/10/2012 02:16:39 PM 1163 Views
Re: Excellent points... - 29/10/2012 02:47:30 PM 1415 Views
You seem confused. - 29/10/2012 03:22:47 PM 1136 Views
Re: You seem confused. - 29/10/2012 03:41:48 PM 1174 Views
I think the point is that the AS didn't go force every woman in the area - 29/10/2012 07:57:59 PM 1126 Views
Re: You seem confused. - 29/10/2012 08:23:22 PM 1424 Views
Re: You seem confused. - 29/10/2012 08:57:11 PM 1287 Views
He drew graphs! - 30/10/2012 12:49:09 AM 1178 Views
Re: He drew graphs! - 30/10/2012 07:43:54 AM 1443 Views
Re: He drew graphs! - 30/10/2012 01:57:05 PM 1242 Views
Re: Excellent points... - 30/10/2012 12:20:00 AM 1262 Views
Re: Excellent points... - 30/10/2012 07:49:57 AM 1231 Views
Re: Excellent points... - 30/10/2012 01:05:45 PM 1710 Views
Re: Excellent points... - 30/10/2012 01:25:11 PM 1269 Views
Re: Excellent points... - 30/10/2012 12:20:17 AM 1350 Views
AS recruiting is minimal - 28/10/2012 10:41:29 PM 1217 Views
Re: You need to go read RJ's quotes: - 29/10/2012 02:23:27 AM 1217 Views
Re: You need to go read RJ's quotes: - 29/10/2012 07:33:44 AM 1217 Views
Huh? - 29/10/2012 02:26:27 PM 1338 Views
Re: Huh? - 29/10/2012 02:42:07 PM 1163 Views
You don't seem to know what random means... - 29/10/2012 03:25:57 PM 1195 Views
Re: You don't seem to know what random means... - 29/10/2012 03:36:45 PM 1198 Views
Personally I just think that 1000 women being allowed to tag along is a drop - 29/10/2012 08:05:33 PM 1359 Views
Re: Personally I just think that 1000 women being allowed to tag along is a drop - 29/10/2012 09:04:02 PM 1386 Views
Geography alone can do this - 30/10/2012 12:39:53 AM 1190 Views
Re: Geography alone can do this - 30/10/2012 09:45:58 AM 1160 Views
Not really - 30/10/2012 02:49:05 PM 1162 Views
Here's why its not random... - 30/10/2012 01:04:18 AM 1158 Views
Re: Here's why its not random... - 30/10/2012 09:42:35 AM 1431 Views
Re: Here's why its not random... - 30/10/2012 01:51:03 PM 1152 Views
Re: Here's why its not random... - 30/10/2012 02:21:04 PM 1203 Views
YEah, there's no point debating this... - 30/10/2012 02:46:39 PM 1212 Views
Genetics plays a role - 30/10/2012 03:03:41 PM 1431 Views
Re: You don't seem to know what random means... - 29/10/2012 08:22:40 PM 1122 Views
Re: You don't seem to know what random means... - 29/10/2012 09:06:08 PM 1239 Views
Why must there be a mechanism? - 30/10/2012 01:06:29 AM 1191 Views
Re: Why must there be a mechanism? - 30/10/2012 09:48:16 AM 1219 Views
Nope... - 30/10/2012 01:43:56 PM 1326 Views
Re: Nope... - 30/10/2012 02:34:51 PM 1172 Views
Oh my... - 30/10/2012 02:50:12 PM 1201 Views
Thought experment time! Hurrah! - 30/10/2012 03:27:01 PM 1170 Views
But it is still possible in your example to get wildly varied results - 30/10/2012 03:30:59 PM 1119 Views
Re: But it is still possible in your example to get wildly varied results - 30/10/2012 03:36:03 PM 1184 Views
LOL - 30/10/2012 04:49:06 PM 1858 Views
Re: Yet Sharina, Nynaeve etc exist, thus the BC is the same - 28/10/2012 01:39:55 PM 1306 Views
The point is there are still people being born in the highest strength categories - 28/10/2012 04:18:55 PM 1321 Views
Re: The point is there are still people being born in the highest strength categories - 28/10/2012 05:21:44 PM 1184 Views
The curve hasn't shifted! - 28/10/2012 05:39:42 PM 1400 Views
The fact is, Moiraine is not half as strong as Lanfear, hence she is below average strength. - 28/10/2012 06:02:04 PM 1215 Views
How is this fact? - 29/10/2012 02:59:49 AM 1374 Views
Re: How is this fact? - 29/10/2012 07:04:15 PM 1225 Views
Not so - 29/10/2012 08:09:29 PM 1179 Views
Re: Not so - 29/10/2012 08:43:16 PM 1374 Views
Sure it is - 30/10/2012 01:43:39 AM 1321 Views
Explain Elza-Merise-Cadsuane then... - 29/10/2012 08:20:14 PM 1193 Views
Re: Explain Elza-Merise-Cadsuane then... - 29/10/2012 08:38:11 PM 1290 Views
Are you blind man? - 30/10/2012 01:12:26 AM 1215 Views
Re: Are you blind man? - 30/10/2012 09:23:37 AM 1233 Views
Cadsuane is just below Egwene... - 30/10/2012 01:37:54 PM 1162 Views
Your strength scores don't square with the Pevara quote - 30/10/2012 03:15:22 PM 1192 Views
Re: The curve hasn't shifted! - 28/10/2012 07:36:36 PM 1187 Views
On Raw strength scores I think you are pretty inline with my thinking - 27/10/2012 09:37:25 PM 1330 Views
And the facing a Foresaken comment is out of context anyway... - 28/10/2012 01:56:12 AM 1412 Views
Excellent point on raw v. Effective strength *NM* - 28/10/2012 04:13:21 PM 864 Views

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