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Re: Excellent points... Tor Send a noteboard - 30/10/2012 07:49:57 AM
He had used those numbers for years, he had to know that the Tower would turn down 40% of all potential channellers, it gave him a basis to start with, but he was fully aware the sample among AS (not so among WF, WO) is so small it deviated from the stats (as it did with the new novices).


That is plain wrong. The sample is not so small it would deviate tha much by random chance. If both the quote about 62.5% and the 200 out of 1000 are right, then there is some mechanism by which those novices were systematically selected from the weaker part of the population. As darius_sedai said, it could be that Northern Alataran women are for some reason weaker, or it could be something else, but the sample size is not the problem.
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Ch2 : Pevara & Androl and channeling implications Sidious - 24/10/2012 06:40:47 PM 2758 Views
Did Perva actually initiate the link or was it Androl? *NM* TheCrownless - 24/10/2012 07:02:15 PM 681 Views
Androl did. *NM* Great Lord of Chaos - 25/10/2012 05:10:31 AM 937 Views
But didn't Nynaeve do it first at the cleansing? TheCrownless - 25/10/2012 12:43:15 PM 1083 Views
Pevara was thinking on very sketchy information. Great Lord of Chaos - 25/10/2012 08:56:20 PM 1017 Views
did he start the link? or just take it? nigelgoboom - 27/10/2012 07:33:49 AM 741 Views
I think it's slightly off darius_sedai - 28/10/2012 04:21:05 PM 1020 Views
Re: Ch2 : Pevara & Androl and channeling implications Great Lord of Chaos - 25/10/2012 05:13:43 AM 1237 Views
Re: Ch2 : Pevara & Androl and channeling implications Sidious - 25/10/2012 04:23:20 PM 1062 Views
Re: Ch2 : Pevara & Androl and channeling implications DomA - 25/10/2012 09:52:03 PM 1114 Views
Travelling Tor - 25/10/2012 08:56:41 AM 1102 Views
Yes that's a pet theory of mine Sidious - 25/10/2012 04:21:53 PM 1099 Views
Re: Yes that's a pet theory of mine Tor - 25/10/2012 06:12:21 PM 1007 Views
Re: Yes that's a pet theory of mine DomA - 25/10/2012 08:50:15 PM 965 Views
Re: Yes that's a pet theory of mine Tor - 25/10/2012 09:45:26 PM 1044 Views
Weren't there 150 or so at Maradon? *NM* Voscaia Sedai - 26/10/2012 03:29:53 PM 599 Views
Re: Yes that's a pet theory of mine DomA - 26/10/2012 08:49:58 PM 1148 Views
Perhaps, but if no on in the AoL could do it when mixed circles were common darius_sedai - 28/10/2012 04:22:20 PM 846 Views
How strong Pevara is... fionwe1987 - 25/10/2012 07:08:26 PM 1176 Views
I'm pretty sure Moiraine is closer to 30... DREWRULESWOT! - 25/10/2012 07:41:37 PM 909 Views
Agreed Sidious - 25/10/2012 08:37:24 PM 997 Views
So... the old story of ignore the bell curve, eh? fionwe1987 - 26/10/2012 01:40:49 AM 956 Views
No, I fully respect the bell curve Sidious - 26/10/2012 01:51:34 PM 1008 Views
That was disproved long ago... fionwe1987 - 26/10/2012 01:36:24 AM 947 Views
But Moiraine isn't 'exceptionally strong' DREWRULESWOT! - 26/10/2012 05:16:10 AM 1009 Views
Not particularly strong evidence for that last. Great Lord of Chaos - 26/10/2012 05:36:54 AM 961 Views
But we know that it takes significantly more strength to maintain multiple weaves DREWRULESWOT! - 26/10/2012 08:14:58 AM 882 Views
Not true darius_sedai - 27/10/2012 09:15:51 PM 886 Views
Not accurate darius_sedai - 27/10/2012 09:31:05 PM 892 Views
The Bell Curve explained... Shannow - 26/10/2012 10:27:34 AM 947 Views
Re: The Bell Curve explained... Tor - 26/10/2012 11:40:04 AM 941 Views
Re: The Bell Curve explained... Shannow - 26/10/2012 12:32:01 PM 859 Views
Re: The Bell Curve explained... Tor - 26/10/2012 12:48:51 PM 960 Views
Re: The Bell Curve explained... Shannow - 26/10/2012 01:07:39 PM 945 Views
Re: The Bell Curve explained... Tor - 26/10/2012 01:18:32 PM 978 Views
Re: The Bell Curve explained... Shannow - 26/10/2012 01:57:18 PM 1034 Views
Re: The Bell Curve explained... Tor - 28/10/2012 02:07:39 PM 732 Views
Yet Sharina, Nynaeve etc exist, thus the BC is the same darius_sedai - 27/10/2012 09:39:58 PM 1024 Views
The curve is OBVIOUSLY the same... fionwe1987 - 28/10/2012 01:50:37 AM 870 Views
Re: The curve is OBVIOUSLY the same... Tor - 28/10/2012 02:01:59 PM 913 Views
You need to go read RJ's quotes: fionwe1987 - 28/10/2012 02:41:49 PM 934 Views
Re: You need to go read RJ's quotes: Tor - 28/10/2012 05:39:12 PM 846 Views
I need to come and save you from blatant fallacies being spouted by the loonies. Shannow - 28/10/2012 05:56:21 PM 831 Views
Re: I need to come and save you from blatant fallacies being spouted by the loonies. Tor - 28/10/2012 07:44:02 PM 825 Views
This is like watching a train-wreck. fionwe1987 - 29/10/2012 02:58:51 AM 811 Views
Re: This is like watching a train-wreck. DomA - 29/10/2012 01:10:35 PM 1011 Views
So what's your conclusion? Shannow - 29/10/2012 02:14:33 PM 780 Views
His conclusion is that RJ was right about the books he wrote... fionwe1987 - 29/10/2012 02:19:59 PM 929 Views
Pretty much... DomA - 30/10/2012 12:57:41 AM 1011 Views
you do realize that is an impossible question to answer from the books right? darius_sedai - 29/10/2012 07:50:02 PM 890 Views
Excellent points... fionwe1987 - 29/10/2012 02:16:39 PM 776 Views
Re: Excellent points... Tor - 29/10/2012 02:47:30 PM 900 Views
You seem confused. fionwe1987 - 29/10/2012 03:22:47 PM 790 Views
Re: You seem confused. Tor - 29/10/2012 03:41:48 PM 828 Views
I think the point is that the AS didn't go force every woman in the area darius_sedai - 29/10/2012 07:57:59 PM 794 Views
Re: You seem confused. fionwe1987 - 29/10/2012 08:23:22 PM 920 Views
Re: You seem confused. Tor - 29/10/2012 08:57:11 PM 920 Views
He drew graphs! fionwe1987 - 30/10/2012 12:49:09 AM 805 Views
Re: He drew graphs! Tor - 30/10/2012 07:43:54 AM 852 Views
Re: He drew graphs! fionwe1987 - 30/10/2012 01:57:05 PM 840 Views
Re: Excellent points... DomA - 30/10/2012 12:20:00 AM 842 Views
Re: Excellent points... Tor - 30/10/2012 07:49:57 AM 871 Views
Re: Excellent points... DomA - 30/10/2012 01:05:45 PM 1208 Views
Re: Excellent points... Tor - 30/10/2012 01:25:11 PM 890 Views
Re: Excellent points... DomA - 30/10/2012 12:20:17 AM 950 Views
AS recruiting is minimal darius_sedai - 28/10/2012 10:41:29 PM 872 Views
Re: You need to go read RJ's quotes: fionwe1987 - 29/10/2012 02:23:27 AM 851 Views
Re: You need to go read RJ's quotes: Tor - 29/10/2012 07:33:44 AM 825 Views
Huh? fionwe1987 - 29/10/2012 02:26:27 PM 830 Views
Re: Huh? Tor - 29/10/2012 02:42:07 PM 828 Views
You don't seem to know what random means... fionwe1987 - 29/10/2012 03:25:57 PM 831 Views
Re: You don't seem to know what random means... Tor - 29/10/2012 03:36:45 PM 870 Views
Personally I just think that 1000 women being allowed to tag along is a drop darius_sedai - 29/10/2012 08:05:33 PM 872 Views
Re: Personally I just think that 1000 women being allowed to tag along is a drop Tor - 29/10/2012 09:04:02 PM 887 Views
Geography alone can do this darius_sedai - 30/10/2012 12:39:53 AM 838 Views
Re: Geography alone can do this Tor - 30/10/2012 09:45:58 AM 824 Views
Not really darius_sedai - 30/10/2012 02:49:05 PM 800 Views
Here's why its not random... fionwe1987 - 30/10/2012 01:04:18 AM 796 Views
Re: Here's why its not random... Tor - 30/10/2012 09:42:35 AM 944 Views
Re: Here's why its not random... fionwe1987 - 30/10/2012 01:51:03 PM 798 Views
Re: Here's why its not random... Tor - 30/10/2012 02:21:04 PM 855 Views
YEah, there's no point debating this... fionwe1987 - 30/10/2012 02:46:39 PM 804 Views
Genetics plays a role darius_sedai - 30/10/2012 03:03:41 PM 943 Views
Re: You don't seem to know what random means... fionwe1987 - 29/10/2012 08:22:40 PM 800 Views
Re: You don't seem to know what random means... Tor - 29/10/2012 09:06:08 PM 834 Views
Why must there be a mechanism? fionwe1987 - 30/10/2012 01:06:29 AM 812 Views
Re: Why must there be a mechanism? Tor - 30/10/2012 09:48:16 AM 739 Views
Nope... fionwe1987 - 30/10/2012 01:43:56 PM 950 Views
Re: Nope... Tor - 30/10/2012 02:34:51 PM 791 Views
Oh my... fionwe1987 - 30/10/2012 02:50:12 PM 881 Views
Thought experment time! Hurrah! Tor - 30/10/2012 03:27:01 PM 804 Views
But it is still possible in your example to get wildly varied results darius_sedai - 30/10/2012 03:30:59 PM 746 Views
Re: But it is still possible in your example to get wildly varied results Tor - 30/10/2012 03:36:03 PM 843 Views
LOL darius_sedai - 30/10/2012 04:49:06 PM 1363 Views
Re: Yet Sharina, Nynaeve etc exist, thus the BC is the same Tor - 28/10/2012 01:39:55 PM 815 Views
The point is there are still people being born in the highest strength categories darius_sedai - 28/10/2012 04:18:55 PM 844 Views
Re: The point is there are still people being born in the highest strength categories Tor - 28/10/2012 05:21:44 PM 837 Views
The curve hasn't shifted! fionwe1987 - 28/10/2012 05:39:42 PM 910 Views
The fact is, Moiraine is not half as strong as Lanfear, hence she is below average strength. Shannow - 28/10/2012 06:02:04 PM 850 Views
Re: The fact is, Moiraine is not half as strong as Lanfear, hence she is below average strength. Tor - 28/10/2012 07:27:26 PM 754 Views
There is not a single quote in the series that states Moiraine is less than half the strength darius_sedai - 28/10/2012 10:31:28 PM 805 Views
How is this fact? fionwe1987 - 29/10/2012 02:59:49 AM 875 Views
Re: How is this fact? Sidious - 29/10/2012 07:04:15 PM 849 Views
Not so darius_sedai - 29/10/2012 08:09:29 PM 821 Views
Re: Not so Sidious - 29/10/2012 08:43:16 PM 895 Views
Sure it is darius_sedai - 30/10/2012 01:43:39 AM 780 Views
Explain Elza-Merise-Cadsuane then... fionwe1987 - 29/10/2012 08:20:14 PM 821 Views
Re: Explain Elza-Merise-Cadsuane then... Sidious - 29/10/2012 08:38:11 PM 837 Views
Are you blind man? fionwe1987 - 30/10/2012 01:12:26 AM 864 Views
Re: Are you blind man? Sidious - 30/10/2012 09:23:37 AM 897 Views
Cadsuane is just below Egwene... fionwe1987 - 30/10/2012 01:37:54 PM 826 Views
Your strength scores don't square with the Pevara quote darius_sedai - 30/10/2012 03:15:22 PM 826 Views
Re: The curve hasn't shifted! Tor - 28/10/2012 07:36:36 PM 842 Views
Well the most obvious thing is that RJ was quoted on the subject any number of times darius_sedai - 28/10/2012 11:34:18 PM 856 Views
On Raw strength scores I think you are pretty inline with my thinking darius_sedai - 27/10/2012 09:37:25 PM 982 Views
And the facing a Foresaken comment is out of context anyway... fionwe1987 - 28/10/2012 01:56:12 AM 950 Views
Excellent point on raw v. Effective strength *NM* darius_sedai - 28/10/2012 04:13:21 PM 596 Views
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