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Re: actually that quote supports my thoughts Datakim Send a noteboard - 07/01/2010 12:10:07 AM
The way it reads sounds like it could take a lot of time after someone's death to secure the right body... so unless it's a journey that takes months after your death I'm thinking Balefire shouldn't really make all that much difference.


Umm no, DO keeps your soul in his grasp, maybe inside the bore while waiting for a body to be secured. But the initial capture of the soul has to happen quickly. However, once the DO has your soul in his grasp, he can keep it from escaping to join the pattern.

So to continue my example. If he captured you in those 2 minutes, he could then keep your soul in his hand for years if he wanted to, he would not need to find a body in the remaining 3 minutes. But if he missed that 5 minute window, nothing could be done.
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Rand the psycho? Datakim - 06/01/2010 02:53:30 AM 1617 Views
I cannot follow your assumptions. Fanatic-Templar - 06/01/2010 04:07:33 AM 1019 Views
On Balefire Lord Haart - 06/01/2010 04:43:18 AM 1015 Views
Good point Datakim - 06/01/2010 05:04:26 AM 1043 Views
On the nature of BaleFire Lord Haart - 06/01/2010 03:32:25 PM 947 Views
Re: I cannot follow your assumptions. Datakim - 06/01/2010 04:59:12 AM 854 Views
Wait! Datakim - 06/01/2010 05:10:33 AM 973 Views
Re: Wait! callandor1000 - 06/01/2010 05:20:02 AM 889 Views
Re: Wait! Datakim - 06/01/2010 05:58:00 AM 856 Views
Re: Wait! callandor1000 - 06/01/2010 11:46:13 AM 805 Views
Re: Wait! Datakim - 06/01/2010 03:55:01 PM 808 Views
I disagree Lord Haart - 06/01/2010 05:42:44 PM 768 Views
Re: I disagree Datakim - 06/01/2010 06:41:08 PM 794 Views
Re: I disagree Lord Haart - 07/01/2010 04:42:40 AM 776 Views
I doubt he meant 'in one go' as a single stream of balefire. Fanatic-Templar - 06/01/2010 07:30:56 AM 930 Views
Re: I doubt he meant 'in one go' as a single stream of balefire. Datakim - 06/01/2010 03:32:24 PM 837 Views
Re: I doubt he meant 'in one go' as a single stream of balefire. Fanatic-Templar - 06/01/2010 09:52:47 PM 901 Views
Re: I doubt he meant 'in one go' as a single stream of balefire. Datakim - 06/01/2010 11:19:56 PM 788 Views
Re: I doubt he meant 'in one go' as a single stream of balefire. Fanatic-Templar - 07/01/2010 12:21:50 AM 881 Views
Re: I doubt he meant 'in one go' as a single stream of balefire. Datakim - 07/01/2010 12:56:26 AM 813 Views
Re: I doubt he meant 'in one go' as a single stream of balefire. Fanatic-Templar - 07/01/2010 01:46:16 AM 853 Views
I agree with Templar Lord Haart - 09/01/2010 04:36:20 PM 799 Views
Of course, I agree with you, esp since I just put forth the idea you support earlier in the thread. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 11/01/2010 04:58:26 PM 1284 Views
Re: I cannot follow your assumptions. Fanatic-Templar - 06/01/2010 07:57:54 AM 909 Views
Rand crossed a line Etzel - 06/01/2010 02:36:42 PM 923 Views
Re: Rand crossed a line Datakim - 06/01/2010 04:16:12 PM 838 Views
But... Etzel - 06/01/2010 04:34:02 PM 948 Views
Re: But... Datakim - 06/01/2010 06:14:25 PM 764 Views
Doesn't Balefire remove your thread from the Pattern permanently? darius_sedai - 06/01/2010 02:55:38 PM 868 Views
No, RJ stated balefired people can be reborn. *NM* Etzel - 06/01/2010 03:26:00 PM 426 Views
But not in this turning of the Wheel. So they'd miss out on MANY lifetimes. Lord Haart - 06/01/2010 05:46:04 PM 828 Views
What? Datakim - 06/01/2010 06:20:56 PM 848 Views
Where did you get that? Gher - 06/01/2010 07:09:38 PM 798 Views
No, balefire just kills you backwards in time. It is not super-death. *NM* Fanatic-Templar - 06/01/2010 09:58:18 PM 459 Views
LOL ... super-death! darius_sedai - 06/01/2010 11:59:31 PM 777 Views
Hah! *NM* RugbyPlayingAshaman - 07/01/2010 12:06:07 AM 428 Views
It makes me think of History of the World Part 1 darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 12:53:20 AM 786 Views
It makes me think of History of the World Part 1 darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 12:53:33 AM 759 Views
Yes it was. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 06/01/2010 06:51:15 PM 896 Views
Re: Yes it was. Datakim - 06/01/2010 07:16:14 PM 814 Views
Re: Yes it was. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 06/01/2010 08:58:40 PM 853 Views
Re: Yes it was. Datakim - 06/01/2010 10:47:11 PM 846 Views
let me ask the question in a different way darius_sedai - 06/01/2010 11:26:43 PM 834 Views
Re: let me ask the question in a different way Datakim - 06/01/2010 11:40:56 PM 829 Views
actually that quote supports my thoughts darius_sedai - 06/01/2010 11:50:40 PM 847 Views
Re: actually that quote supports my thoughts Datakim - 07/01/2010 12:10:07 AM 807 Views
yet it could take him some undetermined amount of time to figure out your dead? darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 12:34:34 AM 788 Views
Re: yet it could take him some undetermined amount of time to figure out your dead? Datakim - 07/01/2010 01:13:40 AM 760 Views
Meh. I just think advocating mass-murder is the opposite direction RJ meant for this to take. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 07/01/2010 12:00:44 AM 863 Views
Sigh. What mass murder? Datakim - 07/01/2010 12:15:01 AM 750 Views
you are kidding right? darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 12:19:58 AM 841 Views
In this book Rand was a wimp and a bully. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 07/01/2010 03:14:32 PM 820 Views
Re: In this book Rand was a wimp and a bully. Datakim - 07/01/2010 03:57:43 PM 827 Views
Re: In this book Rand was a wimp and a bully. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 07/01/2010 07:13:21 PM 841 Views
Re: In this book Rand was a wimp and a bully. Datakim - 07/01/2010 07:52:24 PM 786 Views
Re: In this book Rand was a wimp and a bully. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 07/01/2010 08:56:43 PM 856 Views
Re: In this book Rand was a wimp and a bully. Datakim - 07/01/2010 09:26:01 PM 785 Views
Re: In this book Rand was a wimp and a bully. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 07/01/2010 09:30:45 PM 729 Views
Personally I'm kind of sick of Rand being the only person killing FS! darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 09:42:57 PM 907 Views
Re: In this book Rand was a wimp and a bully. Datakim - 07/01/2010 09:56:02 PM 843 Views
OK I'm sorry but this gets a huge ROFL :lol: RugbyPlayingAshaman - 07/01/2010 10:30:19 PM 823 Views
Re: OK I'm sorry but this gets a huge ROFL :lol: Sidious - 08/01/2010 01:53:25 PM 775 Views
Re: OK I'm sorry but this gets a huge ROFL :lol: RugbyPlayingAshaman - 08/01/2010 02:56:41 PM 830 Views
What might work... Etzel - 08/01/2010 12:35:17 PM 742 Views
Re: What might work... Datakim - 08/01/2010 11:38:09 PM 763 Views
Yes. Anakin Skywalker all over again Itachi - 06/01/2010 11:01:02 PM 919 Views
Meh Datakim - 06/01/2010 11:30:24 PM 762 Views
The worst part about his atrocities is his rationalizing them! darius_sedai - 06/01/2010 11:33:32 PM 769 Views
Re: The worst part about his atrocities is his rationalizing them! Datakim - 06/01/2010 11:50:37 PM 845 Views
Re: The worst part about his atrocities is his rationalizing them! darius_sedai - 06/01/2010 11:55:03 PM 791 Views
I do have to guiltily say, though, that if Rand had balefired the Seanchan and THEN became good... RugbyPlayingAshaman - 07/01/2010 12:03:20 AM 824 Views
*laughs behind hand* darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 12:05:54 AM 900 Views
Re: The worst part about his atrocities is his rationalizing them! Datakim - 07/01/2010 12:23:11 AM 769 Views
I don't think Rand or LTT (who has/have) little capacity for Healing darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 12:52:25 AM 774 Views
Re: I don't think Rand or LTT (who has/have) little capacity for Healing Datakim - 07/01/2010 01:24:32 AM 836 Views
Re: I don't think Rand or LTT (who has/have) little capacity for Healing darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 03:33:52 PM 778 Views
Re: I don't think Rand or LTT (who has/have) little capacity for Healing Datakim - 07/01/2010 04:28:18 PM 923 Views
right cause all Generals are so well versed in medical conditions darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 09:44:09 PM 878 Views
Nice way to avoid the argument. Datakim - 07/01/2010 10:00:17 PM 829 Views
I'm just done talking in circles. You seem to think that because people darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 11:53:05 PM 862 Views
I concede Datakim - 07/01/2010 01:09:11 AM 757 Views
You weren't wrong overall, but there were some serious flaws in your reasoning. Cannoli - 07/01/2010 02:43:17 AM 866 Views
Tee hee. Fanatic-Templar - 07/01/2010 05:28:52 AM 818 Views
Morals are subjective anyhow, Nyrende - 07/01/2010 06:23:09 AM 847 Views
Re: Morals are subjective anyhow, RugbyPlayingAshaman - 07/01/2010 03:23:59 PM 772 Views
I have religious beliefs and that is an absurd contention Cannoli - 09/01/2010 12:00:02 AM 853 Views
Re: I have religious beliefs and that is an absurd contention Lord Haart - 09/01/2010 05:56:16 PM 1011 Views
Re: I have religious beliefs and that is an absurd contention Cannoli - 18/01/2010 01:00:23 PM 1137 Views
Your assertions weaken your overall argument. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 11/01/2010 04:47:10 PM 739 Views
Re: Your assertions weaken your overall argument. Cannoli - 18/01/2010 12:49:26 PM 782 Views
You are treating Graendal's "pets" as though they were enemy combatants darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 03:40:03 PM 855 Views
Like I give a damn what a group of professional killers would do. Cannoli - 08/01/2010 11:39:11 PM 766 Views
Graendal captured these people as part of the Shadows offensive, Operation Chaos Rules darius_sedai - 09/01/2010 12:00:40 AM 1078 Views
Well, I still liked your first argument. It's a freaking war. The argument ... amirebram - 07/01/2010 07:08:53 PM 803 Views
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