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Re: actually that quote supports my thoughts Datakim Send a noteboard - 07/01/2010 12:10:07 AM
The way it reads sounds like it could take a lot of time after someone's death to secure the right body... so unless it's a journey that takes months after your death I'm thinking Balefire shouldn't really make all that much difference.


Umm no, DO keeps your soul in his grasp, maybe inside the bore while waiting for a body to be secured. But the initial capture of the soul has to happen quickly. However, once the DO has your soul in his grasp, he can keep it from escaping to join the pattern.

So to continue my example. If he captured you in those 2 minutes, he could then keep your soul in his hand for years if he wanted to, he would not need to find a body in the remaining 3 minutes. But if he missed that 5 minute window, nothing could be done.
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Rand the psycho? Datakim - 06/01/2010 02:53:30 AM 1661 Views
I cannot follow your assumptions. Fanatic-Templar - 06/01/2010 04:07:33 AM 1065 Views
On Balefire Lord Haart - 06/01/2010 04:43:18 AM 1065 Views
Good point Datakim - 06/01/2010 05:04:26 AM 1109 Views
On the nature of BaleFire Lord Haart - 06/01/2010 03:32:25 PM 999 Views
Re: I cannot follow your assumptions. Datakim - 06/01/2010 04:59:12 AM 896 Views
Wait! Datakim - 06/01/2010 05:10:33 AM 1020 Views
Re: Wait! callandor1000 - 06/01/2010 05:20:02 AM 927 Views
Re: Wait! Datakim - 06/01/2010 05:58:00 AM 898 Views
Re: Wait! callandor1000 - 06/01/2010 11:46:13 AM 848 Views
Re: Wait! Datakim - 06/01/2010 03:55:01 PM 856 Views
I disagree Lord Haart - 06/01/2010 05:42:44 PM 804 Views
Re: I disagree Datakim - 06/01/2010 06:41:08 PM 836 Views
Re: I disagree Lord Haart - 07/01/2010 04:42:40 AM 817 Views
I doubt he meant 'in one go' as a single stream of balefire. Fanatic-Templar - 06/01/2010 07:30:56 AM 972 Views
Re: I doubt he meant 'in one go' as a single stream of balefire. Datakim - 06/01/2010 03:32:24 PM 878 Views
Re: I doubt he meant 'in one go' as a single stream of balefire. Fanatic-Templar - 06/01/2010 09:52:47 PM 948 Views
Re: I doubt he meant 'in one go' as a single stream of balefire. Datakim - 06/01/2010 11:19:56 PM 856 Views
Re: I doubt he meant 'in one go' as a single stream of balefire. Fanatic-Templar - 07/01/2010 12:21:50 AM 923 Views
Re: I doubt he meant 'in one go' as a single stream of balefire. Datakim - 07/01/2010 12:56:26 AM 857 Views
Re: I doubt he meant 'in one go' as a single stream of balefire. Fanatic-Templar - 07/01/2010 01:46:16 AM 915 Views
I agree with Templar Lord Haart - 09/01/2010 04:36:20 PM 839 Views
Of course, I agree with you, esp since I just put forth the idea you support earlier in the thread. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 11/01/2010 04:58:26 PM 1330 Views
Re: I cannot follow your assumptions. Fanatic-Templar - 06/01/2010 07:57:54 AM 958 Views
Rand crossed a line Etzel - 06/01/2010 02:36:42 PM 962 Views
Re: Rand crossed a line Datakim - 06/01/2010 04:16:12 PM 883 Views
But... Etzel - 06/01/2010 04:34:02 PM 992 Views
Re: But... Datakim - 06/01/2010 06:14:25 PM 803 Views
Doesn't Balefire remove your thread from the Pattern permanently? darius_sedai - 06/01/2010 02:55:38 PM 942 Views
No, RJ stated balefired people can be reborn. *NM* Etzel - 06/01/2010 03:26:00 PM 454 Views
But not in this turning of the Wheel. So they'd miss out on MANY lifetimes. Lord Haart - 06/01/2010 05:46:04 PM 872 Views
What? Datakim - 06/01/2010 06:20:56 PM 883 Views
Where did you get that? Gher - 06/01/2010 07:09:38 PM 836 Views
No, balefire just kills you backwards in time. It is not super-death. *NM* Fanatic-Templar - 06/01/2010 09:58:18 PM 482 Views
LOL ... super-death! darius_sedai - 06/01/2010 11:59:31 PM 820 Views
Hah! *NM* RugbyPlayingAshaman - 07/01/2010 12:06:07 AM 471 Views
It makes me think of History of the World Part 1 darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 12:53:20 AM 832 Views
It makes me think of History of the World Part 1 darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 12:53:33 AM 806 Views
Yes it was. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 06/01/2010 06:51:15 PM 932 Views
Re: Yes it was. Datakim - 06/01/2010 07:16:14 PM 852 Views
Re: Yes it was. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 06/01/2010 08:58:40 PM 895 Views
Re: Yes it was. Datakim - 06/01/2010 10:47:11 PM 889 Views
let me ask the question in a different way darius_sedai - 06/01/2010 11:26:43 PM 895 Views
Re: let me ask the question in a different way Datakim - 06/01/2010 11:40:56 PM 886 Views
actually that quote supports my thoughts darius_sedai - 06/01/2010 11:50:40 PM 911 Views
Re: actually that quote supports my thoughts Datakim - 07/01/2010 12:10:07 AM 840 Views
yet it could take him some undetermined amount of time to figure out your dead? darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 12:34:34 AM 828 Views
Re: yet it could take him some undetermined amount of time to figure out your dead? Datakim - 07/01/2010 01:13:40 AM 802 Views
Meh. I just think advocating mass-murder is the opposite direction RJ meant for this to take. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 07/01/2010 12:00:44 AM 936 Views
Sigh. What mass murder? Datakim - 07/01/2010 12:15:01 AM 786 Views
you are kidding right? darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 12:19:58 AM 895 Views
In this book Rand was a wimp and a bully. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 07/01/2010 03:14:32 PM 861 Views
Re: In this book Rand was a wimp and a bully. Datakim - 07/01/2010 03:57:43 PM 870 Views
Re: In this book Rand was a wimp and a bully. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 07/01/2010 07:13:21 PM 886 Views
Re: In this book Rand was a wimp and a bully. Datakim - 07/01/2010 07:52:24 PM 831 Views
Re: In this book Rand was a wimp and a bully. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 07/01/2010 08:56:43 PM 898 Views
Re: In this book Rand was a wimp and a bully. Datakim - 07/01/2010 09:26:01 PM 847 Views
Re: In this book Rand was a wimp and a bully. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 07/01/2010 09:30:45 PM 784 Views
Personally I'm kind of sick of Rand being the only person killing FS! darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 09:42:57 PM 954 Views
Re: In this book Rand was a wimp and a bully. Datakim - 07/01/2010 09:56:02 PM 889 Views
OK I'm sorry but this gets a huge ROFL :lol: RugbyPlayingAshaman - 07/01/2010 10:30:19 PM 875 Views
Re: OK I'm sorry but this gets a huge ROFL :lol: Sidious - 08/01/2010 01:53:25 PM 842 Views
Re: OK I'm sorry but this gets a huge ROFL :lol: RugbyPlayingAshaman - 08/01/2010 02:56:41 PM 877 Views
What might work... Etzel - 08/01/2010 12:35:17 PM 783 Views
Re: What might work... Datakim - 08/01/2010 11:38:09 PM 809 Views
Yes. Anakin Skywalker all over again Itachi - 06/01/2010 11:01:02 PM 968 Views
Meh Datakim - 06/01/2010 11:30:24 PM 806 Views
The worst part about his atrocities is his rationalizing them! darius_sedai - 06/01/2010 11:33:32 PM 814 Views
Re: The worst part about his atrocities is his rationalizing them! Datakim - 06/01/2010 11:50:37 PM 895 Views
Re: The worst part about his atrocities is his rationalizing them! darius_sedai - 06/01/2010 11:55:03 PM 856 Views
I do have to guiltily say, though, that if Rand had balefired the Seanchan and THEN became good... RugbyPlayingAshaman - 07/01/2010 12:03:20 AM 862 Views
*laughs behind hand* darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 12:05:54 AM 939 Views
Re: The worst part about his atrocities is his rationalizing them! Datakim - 07/01/2010 12:23:11 AM 803 Views
I don't think Rand or LTT (who has/have) little capacity for Healing darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 12:52:25 AM 812 Views
Re: I don't think Rand or LTT (who has/have) little capacity for Healing Datakim - 07/01/2010 01:24:32 AM 878 Views
Re: I don't think Rand or LTT (who has/have) little capacity for Healing darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 03:33:52 PM 826 Views
Re: I don't think Rand or LTT (who has/have) little capacity for Healing Datakim - 07/01/2010 04:28:18 PM 966 Views
right cause all Generals are so well versed in medical conditions darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 09:44:09 PM 917 Views
Nice way to avoid the argument. Datakim - 07/01/2010 10:00:17 PM 865 Views
I'm just done talking in circles. You seem to think that because people darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 11:53:05 PM 906 Views
I concede Datakim - 07/01/2010 01:09:11 AM 805 Views
You weren't wrong overall, but there were some serious flaws in your reasoning. Cannoli - 07/01/2010 02:43:17 AM 912 Views
Tee hee. Fanatic-Templar - 07/01/2010 05:28:52 AM 876 Views
Morals are subjective anyhow, Nyrende - 07/01/2010 06:23:09 AM 894 Views
Re: Morals are subjective anyhow, RugbyPlayingAshaman - 07/01/2010 03:23:59 PM 815 Views
I have religious beliefs and that is an absurd contention Cannoli - 09/01/2010 12:00:02 AM 894 Views
Re: I have religious beliefs and that is an absurd contention Lord Haart - 09/01/2010 05:56:16 PM 1053 Views
Re: I have religious beliefs and that is an absurd contention Cannoli - 18/01/2010 01:00:23 PM 1187 Views
Your assertions weaken your overall argument. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 11/01/2010 04:47:10 PM 785 Views
Re: Your assertions weaken your overall argument. Cannoli - 18/01/2010 12:49:26 PM 830 Views
You are treating Graendal's "pets" as though they were enemy combatants darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 03:40:03 PM 947 Views
Like I give a damn what a group of professional killers would do. Cannoli - 08/01/2010 11:39:11 PM 811 Views
Graendal captured these people as part of the Shadows offensive, Operation Chaos Rules darius_sedai - 09/01/2010 12:00:40 AM 1119 Views
Well, I still liked your first argument. It's a freaking war. The argument ... amirebram - 07/01/2010 07:08:53 PM 847 Views
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