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Re: What might work... Datakim Send a noteboard - 08/01/2010 11:38:09 PM
Is to make a barrier around Graendal's palace, so that she can't Travel away. This seems to be possible, because the Lightside even considered to make a barrier around SG with the Choedan Kal.
After this, Rand could go in through a little hole in the barrier - maybe with some additional troops - and smoke out the enemy.

Of course, to simply balefire the whole palace is easier, even if innocent people are hit.


That would have been the best way. I think I even mentioned somewhere before that this would have been an easy and obvious thing to do. Arguably even easier than what he did in a way since Rand could have been able to see Graendals death with his own eyes that way.

But while RJ says this might be done(blocking gateways), I don't think Rand knows how. I wonder if that means LTT does not know either. I would have expected that he would but the fact that this is never considered might imply he does not. Unless ofcourse this is one of those facts Rand has yet to learn.

I wonder if this might come into play in the next book. Maybe the new Rand/LTT combo coming down from Dragonmount will teach the Asha'man to block traveling. That might help blunt the Seanchan advantage of getting traveling from Elaida.


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Rand the psycho? - 06/01/2010 02:53:30 AM 1899 Views
I cannot follow your assumptions. - 06/01/2010 04:07:33 AM 1338 Views
On Balefire - 06/01/2010 04:43:18 AM 1299 Views
Good point - 06/01/2010 05:04:26 AM 1335 Views
On the nature of BaleFire - 06/01/2010 03:32:25 PM 1239 Views
Re: I cannot follow your assumptions. - 06/01/2010 04:59:12 AM 1151 Views
Wait! - 06/01/2010 05:10:33 AM 1226 Views
Re: Wait! - 06/01/2010 05:20:02 AM 1134 Views
Re: Wait! - 06/01/2010 05:58:00 AM 1127 Views
Re: Wait! - 06/01/2010 11:46:13 AM 1098 Views
Re: Wait! - 06/01/2010 03:55:01 PM 1092 Views
I disagree - 06/01/2010 05:42:44 PM 1056 Views
Re: I disagree - 06/01/2010 06:41:08 PM 1090 Views
Re: I disagree - 07/01/2010 04:42:40 AM 1072 Views
I doubt he meant 'in one go' as a single stream of balefire. - 06/01/2010 07:30:56 AM 1183 Views
Re: I doubt he meant 'in one go' as a single stream of balefire. - 06/01/2010 03:32:24 PM 1107 Views
Re: I doubt he meant 'in one go' as a single stream of balefire. - 06/01/2010 09:52:47 PM 1194 Views
Re: I doubt he meant 'in one go' as a single stream of balefire. - 06/01/2010 11:19:56 PM 1140 Views
Re: I doubt he meant 'in one go' as a single stream of balefire. - 07/01/2010 12:21:50 AM 1173 Views
Re: I doubt he meant 'in one go' as a single stream of balefire. - 07/01/2010 12:56:26 AM 1099 Views
Re: I doubt he meant 'in one go' as a single stream of balefire. - 07/01/2010 01:46:16 AM 1165 Views
I agree with Templar - 09/01/2010 04:36:20 PM 1077 Views
Re: I cannot follow your assumptions. - 06/01/2010 07:57:54 AM 1194 Views
Rand crossed a line - 06/01/2010 02:36:42 PM 1191 Views
Re: Rand crossed a line - 06/01/2010 04:16:12 PM 1149 Views
But... - 06/01/2010 04:34:02 PM 1222 Views
Re: But... - 06/01/2010 06:14:25 PM 1039 Views
Doesn't Balefire remove your thread from the Pattern permanently? - 06/01/2010 02:55:38 PM 1224 Views
No, RJ stated balefired people can be reborn. *NM* - 06/01/2010 03:26:00 PM 578 Views
But not in this turning of the Wheel. So they'd miss out on MANY lifetimes. - 06/01/2010 05:46:04 PM 1096 Views
What? - 06/01/2010 06:20:56 PM 1097 Views
Where did you get that? - 06/01/2010 07:09:38 PM 1058 Views
No, balefire just kills you backwards in time. It is not super-death. *NM* - 06/01/2010 09:58:18 PM 586 Views
LOL ... super-death! - 06/01/2010 11:59:31 PM 1038 Views
Hah! *NM* - 07/01/2010 12:06:07 AM 578 Views
It makes me think of History of the World Part 1 - 07/01/2010 12:53:20 AM 1078 Views
It makes me think of History of the World Part 1 - 07/01/2010 12:53:33 AM 1022 Views
Yes it was. - 06/01/2010 06:51:15 PM 1181 Views
Re: Yes it was. - 06/01/2010 07:16:14 PM 1150 Views
Re: Yes it was. - 06/01/2010 08:58:40 PM 1126 Views
Re: Yes it was. - 06/01/2010 10:47:11 PM 1120 Views
let me ask the question in a different way - 06/01/2010 11:26:43 PM 1133 Views
Re: let me ask the question in a different way - 06/01/2010 11:40:56 PM 1110 Views
actually that quote supports my thoughts - 06/01/2010 11:50:40 PM 1234 Views
Re: actually that quote supports my thoughts - 07/01/2010 12:10:07 AM 1069 Views
Meh. I just think advocating mass-murder is the opposite direction RJ meant for this to take. - 07/01/2010 12:00:44 AM 1206 Views
Sigh. What mass murder? - 07/01/2010 12:15:01 AM 1052 Views
you are kidding right? - 07/01/2010 12:19:58 AM 1111 Views
In this book Rand was a wimp and a bully. - 07/01/2010 03:14:32 PM 1087 Views
Re: In this book Rand was a wimp and a bully. - 07/01/2010 03:57:43 PM 1103 Views
Re: In this book Rand was a wimp and a bully. - 07/01/2010 07:13:21 PM 1116 Views
Re: In this book Rand was a wimp and a bully. - 07/01/2010 07:52:24 PM 1050 Views
Re: In this book Rand was a wimp and a bully. - 07/01/2010 08:56:43 PM 1130 Views
Re: In this book Rand was a wimp and a bully. - 07/01/2010 09:26:01 PM 1096 Views
Re: In this book Rand was a wimp and a bully. - 07/01/2010 09:30:45 PM 1012 Views
Personally I'm kind of sick of Rand being the only person killing FS! - 07/01/2010 09:42:57 PM 1164 Views
Re: In this book Rand was a wimp and a bully. - 07/01/2010 09:56:02 PM 1139 Views
OK I'm sorry but this gets a huge ROFL :lol: - 07/01/2010 10:30:19 PM 1154 Views
Re: OK I'm sorry but this gets a huge ROFL :lol: - 08/01/2010 01:53:25 PM 1064 Views
Re: OK I'm sorry but this gets a huge ROFL :lol: - 08/01/2010 02:56:41 PM 1101 Views
What might work... - 08/01/2010 12:35:17 PM 997 Views
Re: What might work... - 08/01/2010 11:38:09 PM 1027 Views
Yes. Anakin Skywalker all over again - 06/01/2010 11:01:02 PM 1204 Views
Meh - 06/01/2010 11:30:24 PM 1047 Views
The worst part about his atrocities is his rationalizing them! - 06/01/2010 11:33:32 PM 1033 Views
Re: The worst part about his atrocities is his rationalizing them! - 06/01/2010 11:50:37 PM 1124 Views
Re: The worst part about his atrocities is his rationalizing them! - 06/01/2010 11:55:03 PM 1096 Views
I do have to guiltily say, though, that if Rand had balefired the Seanchan and THEN became good... - 07/01/2010 12:03:20 AM 1087 Views
*laughs behind hand* - 07/01/2010 12:05:54 AM 1162 Views
Re: The worst part about his atrocities is his rationalizing them! - 07/01/2010 12:23:11 AM 1024 Views
I don't think Rand or LTT (who has/have) little capacity for Healing - 07/01/2010 12:52:25 AM 1063 Views
Re: I don't think Rand or LTT (who has/have) little capacity for Healing - 07/01/2010 01:24:32 AM 1145 Views
Re: I don't think Rand or LTT (who has/have) little capacity for Healing - 07/01/2010 03:33:52 PM 1047 Views
Re: I don't think Rand or LTT (who has/have) little capacity for Healing - 07/01/2010 04:28:18 PM 1214 Views
right cause all Generals are so well versed in medical conditions - 07/01/2010 09:44:09 PM 1158 Views
Nice way to avoid the argument. - 07/01/2010 10:00:17 PM 1093 Views
I'm just done talking in circles. You seem to think that because people - 07/01/2010 11:53:05 PM 1135 Views
I concede - 07/01/2010 01:09:11 AM 1051 Views
You weren't wrong overall, but there were some serious flaws in your reasoning. - 07/01/2010 02:43:17 AM 1165 Views
Tee hee. - 07/01/2010 05:28:52 AM 1120 Views
Morals are subjective anyhow, - 07/01/2010 06:23:09 AM 1110 Views
Re: Morals are subjective anyhow, - 07/01/2010 03:23:59 PM 1050 Views
I have religious beliefs and that is an absurd contention - 09/01/2010 12:00:02 AM 1120 Views
Re: I have religious beliefs and that is an absurd contention - 09/01/2010 05:56:16 PM 1304 Views
Re: I have religious beliefs and that is an absurd contention - 18/01/2010 01:00:23 PM 1423 Views
Your assertions weaken your overall argument. - 11/01/2010 04:47:10 PM 1000 Views
Re: Your assertions weaken your overall argument. - 18/01/2010 12:49:26 PM 1041 Views

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