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Like I give a damn what a group of professional killers would do. Cannoli Send a noteboard - 08/01/2010 11:39:11 PM
When in fact they are closer to Prisoners of War. So what Rand did was nuke a POW camp because a high ranking General for the enemy was there. How well do you think a legitimate Military Organization would treat a General who did that?


I am not. I am judging the morality. I know they are not combatants. They are civilians, NOT prisoners of war. One might be construed as having some moral obligations to POWs. Your analogy would be more correct if you said concentration camp, rather than POW camp, and that would STILL be a valid target in the situation you describe any way. Just because some government bureaucracy obsessed with image and media double-standards might disapprove of something does not make it immoral. I guess you agree that homosexuality is grounds for dismissal & exclusion then, as the most prominent legitimate Military Organization in the world feels?
Cannoli
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Rand the psycho? Datakim - 06/01/2010 02:53:30 AM 1741 Views
I cannot follow your assumptions. Fanatic-Templar - 06/01/2010 04:07:33 AM 1151 Views
On Balefire Lord Haart - 06/01/2010 04:43:18 AM 1150 Views
Good point Datakim - 06/01/2010 05:04:26 AM 1158 Views
On the nature of BaleFire Lord Haart - 06/01/2010 03:32:25 PM 1080 Views
Re: I cannot follow your assumptions. Datakim - 06/01/2010 04:59:12 AM 972 Views
Wait! Datakim - 06/01/2010 05:10:33 AM 1075 Views
Re: Wait! callandor1000 - 06/01/2010 05:20:02 AM 980 Views
Re: Wait! Datakim - 06/01/2010 05:58:00 AM 967 Views
Re: Wait! callandor1000 - 06/01/2010 11:46:13 AM 928 Views
Re: Wait! Datakim - 06/01/2010 03:55:01 PM 938 Views
I disagree Lord Haart - 06/01/2010 05:42:44 PM 896 Views
Re: I disagree Datakim - 06/01/2010 06:41:08 PM 922 Views
Re: I disagree Lord Haart - 07/01/2010 04:42:40 AM 913 Views
I doubt he meant 'in one go' as a single stream of balefire. Fanatic-Templar - 06/01/2010 07:30:56 AM 1035 Views
Re: I doubt he meant 'in one go' as a single stream of balefire. Datakim - 06/01/2010 03:32:24 PM 933 Views
Re: I doubt he meant 'in one go' as a single stream of balefire. Fanatic-Templar - 06/01/2010 09:52:47 PM 1034 Views
Re: I doubt he meant 'in one go' as a single stream of balefire. Datakim - 06/01/2010 11:19:56 PM 952 Views
Re: I doubt he meant 'in one go' as a single stream of balefire. Fanatic-Templar - 07/01/2010 12:21:50 AM 1007 Views
Re: I doubt he meant 'in one go' as a single stream of balefire. Datakim - 07/01/2010 12:56:26 AM 951 Views
Re: I doubt he meant 'in one go' as a single stream of balefire. Fanatic-Templar - 07/01/2010 01:46:16 AM 1005 Views
I agree with Templar Lord Haart - 09/01/2010 04:36:20 PM 901 Views
Of course, I agree with you, esp since I just put forth the idea you support earlier in the thread. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 11/01/2010 04:58:26 PM 1440 Views
Re: I cannot follow your assumptions. Fanatic-Templar - 06/01/2010 07:57:54 AM 1022 Views
Rand crossed a line Etzel - 06/01/2010 02:36:42 PM 1038 Views
Re: Rand crossed a line Datakim - 06/01/2010 04:16:12 PM 989 Views
But... Etzel - 06/01/2010 04:34:02 PM 1082 Views
Re: But... Datakim - 06/01/2010 06:14:25 PM 875 Views
Doesn't Balefire remove your thread from the Pattern permanently? darius_sedai - 06/01/2010 02:55:38 PM 1018 Views
No, RJ stated balefired people can be reborn. *NM* Etzel - 06/01/2010 03:26:00 PM 498 Views
But not in this turning of the Wheel. So they'd miss out on MANY lifetimes. Lord Haart - 06/01/2010 05:46:04 PM 945 Views
What? Datakim - 06/01/2010 06:20:56 PM 954 Views
Where did you get that? Gher - 06/01/2010 07:09:38 PM 908 Views
No, balefire just kills you backwards in time. It is not super-death. *NM* Fanatic-Templar - 06/01/2010 09:58:18 PM 511 Views
LOL ... super-death! darius_sedai - 06/01/2010 11:59:31 PM 887 Views
Hah! *NM* RugbyPlayingAshaman - 07/01/2010 12:06:07 AM 508 Views
It makes me think of History of the World Part 1 darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 12:53:20 AM 906 Views
It makes me think of History of the World Part 1 darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 12:53:33 AM 864 Views
Yes it was. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 06/01/2010 06:51:15 PM 1019 Views
Re: Yes it was. Datakim - 06/01/2010 07:16:14 PM 966 Views
Re: Yes it was. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 06/01/2010 08:58:40 PM 962 Views
Re: Yes it was. Datakim - 06/01/2010 10:47:11 PM 968 Views
let me ask the question in a different way darius_sedai - 06/01/2010 11:26:43 PM 968 Views
Re: let me ask the question in a different way Datakim - 06/01/2010 11:40:56 PM 946 Views
actually that quote supports my thoughts darius_sedai - 06/01/2010 11:50:40 PM 1017 Views
Re: actually that quote supports my thoughts Datakim - 07/01/2010 12:10:07 AM 901 Views
yet it could take him some undetermined amount of time to figure out your dead? darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 12:34:34 AM 909 Views
Re: yet it could take him some undetermined amount of time to figure out your dead? Datakim - 07/01/2010 01:13:40 AM 876 Views
Meh. I just think advocating mass-murder is the opposite direction RJ meant for this to take. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 07/01/2010 12:00:44 AM 1018 Views
Sigh. What mass murder? Datakim - 07/01/2010 12:15:01 AM 849 Views
you are kidding right? darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 12:19:58 AM 958 Views
In this book Rand was a wimp and a bully. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 07/01/2010 03:14:32 PM 925 Views
Re: In this book Rand was a wimp and a bully. Datakim - 07/01/2010 03:57:43 PM 947 Views
Re: In this book Rand was a wimp and a bully. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 07/01/2010 07:13:21 PM 953 Views
Re: In this book Rand was a wimp and a bully. Datakim - 07/01/2010 07:52:24 PM 883 Views
Re: In this book Rand was a wimp and a bully. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 07/01/2010 08:56:43 PM 973 Views
Re: In this book Rand was a wimp and a bully. Datakim - 07/01/2010 09:26:01 PM 918 Views
Re: In this book Rand was a wimp and a bully. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 07/01/2010 09:30:45 PM 853 Views
Personally I'm kind of sick of Rand being the only person killing FS! darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 09:42:57 PM 1017 Views
Re: In this book Rand was a wimp and a bully. Datakim - 07/01/2010 09:56:02 PM 970 Views
OK I'm sorry but this gets a huge ROFL :lol: RugbyPlayingAshaman - 07/01/2010 10:30:19 PM 973 Views
Re: OK I'm sorry but this gets a huge ROFL :lol: Sidious - 08/01/2010 01:53:25 PM 912 Views
Re: OK I'm sorry but this gets a huge ROFL :lol: RugbyPlayingAshaman - 08/01/2010 02:56:41 PM 950 Views
What might work... Etzel - 08/01/2010 12:35:17 PM 860 Views
Re: What might work... Datakim - 08/01/2010 11:38:09 PM 874 Views
Yes. Anakin Skywalker all over again Itachi - 06/01/2010 11:01:02 PM 1043 Views
Meh Datakim - 06/01/2010 11:30:24 PM 884 Views
The worst part about his atrocities is his rationalizing them! darius_sedai - 06/01/2010 11:33:32 PM 880 Views
Re: The worst part about his atrocities is his rationalizing them! Datakim - 06/01/2010 11:50:37 PM 968 Views
Re: The worst part about his atrocities is his rationalizing them! darius_sedai - 06/01/2010 11:55:03 PM 944 Views
I do have to guiltily say, though, that if Rand had balefired the Seanchan and THEN became good... RugbyPlayingAshaman - 07/01/2010 12:03:20 AM 937 Views
*laughs behind hand* darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 12:05:54 AM 1000 Views
Re: The worst part about his atrocities is his rationalizing them! Datakim - 07/01/2010 12:23:11 AM 868 Views
I don't think Rand or LTT (who has/have) little capacity for Healing darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 12:52:25 AM 902 Views
Re: I don't think Rand or LTT (who has/have) little capacity for Healing Datakim - 07/01/2010 01:24:32 AM 953 Views
Re: I don't think Rand or LTT (who has/have) little capacity for Healing darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 03:33:52 PM 886 Views
Re: I don't think Rand or LTT (who has/have) little capacity for Healing Datakim - 07/01/2010 04:28:18 PM 1036 Views
right cause all Generals are so well versed in medical conditions darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 09:44:09 PM 1008 Views
Nice way to avoid the argument. Datakim - 07/01/2010 10:00:17 PM 943 Views
I'm just done talking in circles. You seem to think that because people darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 11:53:05 PM 969 Views
I concede Datakim - 07/01/2010 01:09:11 AM 871 Views
You weren't wrong overall, but there were some serious flaws in your reasoning. Cannoli - 07/01/2010 02:43:17 AM 1006 Views
Tee hee. Fanatic-Templar - 07/01/2010 05:28:52 AM 943 Views
Morals are subjective anyhow, Nyrende - 07/01/2010 06:23:09 AM 955 Views
Re: Morals are subjective anyhow, RugbyPlayingAshaman - 07/01/2010 03:23:59 PM 892 Views
I have religious beliefs and that is an absurd contention Cannoli - 09/01/2010 12:00:02 AM 959 Views
Re: I have religious beliefs and that is an absurd contention Lord Haart - 09/01/2010 05:56:16 PM 1135 Views
Re: I have religious beliefs and that is an absurd contention Cannoli - 18/01/2010 01:00:23 PM 1265 Views
Your assertions weaken your overall argument. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 11/01/2010 04:47:10 PM 851 Views
Re: Your assertions weaken your overall argument. Cannoli - 18/01/2010 12:49:26 PM 894 Views
You are treating Graendal's "pets" as though they were enemy combatants darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 03:40:03 PM 1017 Views
Like I give a damn what a group of professional killers would do. Cannoli - 08/01/2010 11:39:11 PM 878 Views
Graendal captured these people as part of the Shadows offensive, Operation Chaos Rules darius_sedai - 09/01/2010 12:00:40 AM 1180 Views
Well, I still liked your first argument. It's a freaking war. The argument ... amirebram - 07/01/2010 07:08:53 PM 928 Views
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