When you consider Ishamael's motivation I am minded of a story from greek mythology. I'm not to sure of the name of the guy but the greek gods cursed a man to have to roll a big stone/rock up a steep hill over and over and over again and every night he got the stone up the hill and every following morning it was back at the bottom of the hill.
Or for the modern minded think groundhog day without the happy ending.
If you were someone who does not get much joy out of love or companionship and don't really like people the wheel of time would really suck. You are born, you live your life and then you die, then you are reborn back into a life you don't really enjoy and then die then reborn back to the life you are starting to hate a bit more each time you are reborn. Eventually you would snap and want it all to end.
Ishamael does not seem to have access to his past memories but he is smart enough to figure out what endless rebirth would meen that he has been doing what he has been doing over and over again.
One of the reason's LTT/Rand probably does not turn to the Shadow at any turning of the wheel is that he actually gets some joy/satisfaction amid the sorrow of each life so he keeps comming back for more because there is good there among the bad moments and those good moments make the bad worth enduring.
Or for the modern minded think groundhog day without the happy ending.
If you were someone who does not get much joy out of love or companionship and don't really like people the wheel of time would really suck. You are born, you live your life and then you die, then you are reborn back into a life you don't really enjoy and then die then reborn back to the life you are starting to hate a bit more each time you are reborn. Eventually you would snap and want it all to end.
Ishamael does not seem to have access to his past memories but he is smart enough to figure out what endless rebirth would meen that he has been doing what he has been doing over and over again.
One of the reason's LTT/Rand probably does not turn to the Shadow at any turning of the wheel is that he actually gets some joy/satisfaction amid the sorrow of each life so he keeps comming back for more because there is good there among the bad moments and those good moments make the bad worth enduring.
Mook
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Ishamael's nature
01/03/2010 05:27:48 PM
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Re: Ishamael's nature
01/03/2010 07:15:54 PM
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Sisyphus *NM*
02/03/2010 02:27:06 AM
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Not a question of intelligence. Rather, a different way of thinking...
01/03/2010 07:23:37 PM
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I'd go with this - he lost sight of the forest for enumerating the trees.
01/03/2010 08:21:39 PM
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I agree, except with your statement on what Ishamael's area of expertise is ...
02/03/2010 03:17:13 PM
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Which makes him the most evil of the Forsaken... or the least evil
02/03/2010 04:38:06 PM
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Are you saying that philosophers are inherently more intelligent than other academics?
02/03/2010 04:53:13 PM
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Crap
02/03/2010 08:58:12 PM
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That high IQ should make you realise that I am making the same point you are...
02/03/2010 09:53:59 PM
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Re: Which makes him the most evil of the Forsaken... or the least evil
02/03/2010 05:30:43 PM
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Re: Which makes him the most evil of the Forsaken... or the least evil
02/03/2010 06:01:41 PM
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Re: Which makes him the most evil of the Forsaken... or the least evil
07/03/2010 11:31:14 PM
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I doubt that.
08/03/2010 01:21:32 AM
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Re: Not a question of intelligence. Rather, a different way of thinking...
02/03/2010 07:22:58 PM
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Re: Ishamael's nature
02/03/2010 01:49:19 AM
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Re: Ishamael's nature
02/03/2010 02:51:44 PM
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Re: Ishamael's nature
02/03/2010 07:31:32 PM
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Found a great theory about Ishamael and his logic on theoryland
02/03/2010 02:48:02 PM
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I have to disagree on one thing, at the very least...
08/03/2010 01:47:47 AM
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Re: I have to disagree on one thing, at the very least...
08/03/2010 12:37:27 PM
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Yes, but Shai'tan himself is outside the Pattern.
08/03/2010 06:23:19 PM
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Re: Yes, but Shai'tan himself is outside the Pattern.
09/03/2010 01:54:26 PM
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Because there is a Creator.
09/03/2010 05:57:16 PM
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faulty assumptions
10/03/2010 05:05:23 AM
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Impossible.
10/03/2010 06:22:43 AM
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maybe an analogy will help
10/03/2010 12:55:37 PM
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But therein lies the problem.
10/03/2010 04:58:42 PM
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your own argument is self defeating
11/03/2010 08:10:36 AM
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No, that past was created after he was imprisoned.
11/03/2010 05:43:08 PM
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*sigh* I guess we will just have to agree to disagree then.... I still think your theory is flawed *NM*
12/03/2010 05:11:10 AM
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Anyway I just realized this point is irrelevant to the original theory
11/03/2010 08:14:20 AM
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