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Exactly ironclad Send a noteboard - 04/10/2011 06:00:54 PM
Let me add to this. We also believe that the Native American people will become a great and righteous people once again. Doctrine and Covenants 3:20 says, "And that the Lamanites(Native Americans) might come to the knowledge of their fathers, and that they might know the promises of the Lord, and that they may believe the gospel and rely upon the merits of Jesus Christ, and be glorified through faith in his name, and that through their repentance they might be saved. Amen."

it's okay that you think they "turned dark" because they were evil (despite the fact that evidence suggests that the human species "Turned white", not the other way around)...because your white religion will "Save them".

That's so much better.


This is and always will be my major problem with religions like this. "Nono, we don't think you're all bad people, but if you don't believe like we do, there will be hell to pay for you once Christ returns."

Well guess what? If there is a God he certainly doesn't like bullies like that. And just in case, at least I lived a life in sin, had fun, banged twins and danced at gay weddings. (dramatization: may not have happened).
*MySmiley*

You mustn't be afraid to dream a little bigger, darling.
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you are still using it incorrectly. *NM* LadyLorraine - 04/10/2011 02:09:48 PM 778 Views
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I agree, it's driving me nuts *NM* ironclad - 04/10/2011 02:36:45 PM 709 Views
That's not quite right, actually. Nate - 04/10/2011 03:25:54 PM 747 Views
Disagree. *NM* TaskmasterJack - 04/10/2011 10:04:09 PM 783 Views
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I thought that was "Do not talk about /b/"? *NM* Great Lord of Chaos - 04/10/2011 03:12:52 AM 820 Views
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I conceded your last point. Dannymac - 03/10/2011 10:14:28 PM 1223 Views
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Oh, that's very simple Tom - 04/10/2011 04:02:24 AM 1361 Views
I honestly don't know what it would take. Dannymac - 04/10/2011 07:41:55 AM 1295 Views
thank you, both of you LadyLorraine - 04/10/2011 01:46:05 PM 1299 Views
I love the Nicene Creed. It is such an excellent encapsulation. Rebekah - 03/10/2011 06:07:53 PM 1381 Views
Agreed. Joel - 04/10/2011 04:44:49 PM 1266 Views
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Though they can cause interesting changes in patterns. Dannymac - 03/10/2011 10:16:55 PM 1393 Views
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I never said well-written, I said complex. Gher - 04/10/2011 07:04:24 AM 1479 Views
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Re: If you think the Book of Mormon was well-written, there is really little left to discuss. CaptainHammer - 04/10/2011 07:24:27 AM 1603 Views
Woah nelly. Ghavrel - 04/10/2011 10:04:33 AM 1394 Views
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Re: I have to "Wow" as well... racist much? CaptainHammer - 04/10/2011 04:42:47 PM 1384 Views
oh well that makes it all better... LadyLorraine - 04/10/2011 04:54:14 PM 1401 Views
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They can in quite a few denominations. *NM* Ghavrel - 05/10/2011 06:12:35 AM 774 Views
Whoops! You meant in LDS specifically. My mistake. *NM* Ghavrel - 05/10/2011 06:14:05 AM 747 Views
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it's not that we're surprised because it's "novel" LadyLorraine - 04/10/2011 04:19:16 PM 1315 Views
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Yeah, circular logic is fun, isn't it? Tom - 05/10/2011 01:09:25 AM 1368 Views
It it is nigh impossible to be a "non-Nicene Christian." Joel - 04/10/2011 03:12:06 PM 1415 Views
I think we've had this discussion before. Gher - 06/10/2011 05:54:39 PM 1375 Views
Arianism is a bad comparison for arguing LDS=Christian. Joel - 06/10/2011 11:45:36 PM 1297 Views
Wikipedia confirms what I already thought: you're off base with the monophysitism. Legolas - 07/10/2011 12:06:40 AM 1606 Views
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Your ideas intrigue me and I would like to subscribe to your newsletter. Joel - 08/10/2011 05:30:38 PM 1331 Views
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I was just saying there were competing views. Gher - 07/10/2011 07:49:26 PM 1723 Views
Oh, there were definitely competing views, just not competing Christian views. Joel - 07/10/2011 09:26:22 PM 1243 Views
That sounds really nice. Vivien - 04/10/2011 06:38:29 PM 1347 Views
Why wait though? Joel - 05/10/2011 12:12:21 AM 1550 Views
So that Vivien can avoid reading and thinking about the stuff that you just wrote. *NM* Aeryn - 05/10/2011 12:28:23 AM 691 Views
Ack, not reading and thinking111 Joel - 05/10/2011 12:36:11 AM 1294 Views
I really want an answer from a mormon. Vivien - 05/10/2011 08:48:49 PM 1354 Views
Good luck with that; just because I can see no explanation save that I offered does not preclude one Joel - 06/10/2011 07:03:50 AM 1238 Views
Yeah, that's what I thought. Gher - 06/10/2011 05:43:57 PM 1282 Views
I'm satisfied by that explanation. Vivien - 06/10/2011 08:51:15 PM 1523 Views
Re: I'm satisfied by that explanation. Gher - 07/10/2011 07:45:29 PM 1327 Views
Oh no you idn't... *waves finger and weaves head* everynametaken - 04/10/2011 03:53:07 AM 1146 Views
....i don't know what you look like LadyLorraine - 04/10/2011 03:54:56 AM 1270 Views
Shoot, my Mick Jagger strut is way better than my angry hispanic girl head/finger bob and weave. *NM* everynametaken - 05/10/2011 04:58:53 AM 829 Views
Took the words right out of my mouth, repeatedly. Joel - 04/10/2011 12:49:13 PM 1501 Views
Off-Topic Larry - 05/10/2011 01:14:16 AM 1269 Views
Hmm Tom - 05/10/2011 02:03:13 AM 1471 Views
True Larry - 05/10/2011 02:13:00 AM 1259 Views
I think of Protestantism in terms similar to a Xerox copy. Tom - 05/10/2011 04:57:42 AM 1383 Views
Maybe Xeroxes of abridged texts and dumbed down theology Larry - 06/10/2011 02:26:58 AM 1459 Views
I like that analogy - an echo chamber! *NM* Tom - 08/10/2011 10:44:04 PM 752 Views
Re: Off-Topic CaptainHammer - 05/10/2011 02:56:50 AM 1476 Views
Uhh... Larry - 05/10/2011 03:08:49 AM 1240 Views
The people at the Nicene Council and the other councils were not prophets. CaptainHammer - 05/10/2011 04:59:50 AM 1394 Views
And you know that because... why, again? Joel - 05/10/2011 07:13:53 AM 1359 Views
Tough Crowd. Dannymac - 03/10/2011 04:44:31 PM 1419 Views
No questions. Have a nice day. TaskmasterJack - 03/10/2011 11:40:58 PM 1286 Views
Why don't they have anything approaching a formal theology? *NM* Dan - 04/10/2011 03:58:16 AM 815 Views
Re: Why don't they have anything approaching a formal theology? CaptainHammer - 04/10/2011 05:23:12 PM 1406 Views
Danny is right, it is a pretty tough crowd, but better tough than weak and whitewashed. everynametaken - 04/10/2011 04:02:16 AM 1320 Views
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